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Coogs · 08:16 PM

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QB Alex Smith tells NFL Total Access that Chiefs aren't running "cookie-cutter" offense and it isn't the same as what coach Andy Reid ran with Eagles and Packers. Catch the entire interview tonight at 7PM ET on NFL Total Access.

GordonGekko · 07-20-2013, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER

Alex Smith = 174 YPG

GD I cannot wait to go 4-12. Only reason I think we get 4 is that I think we get one more solid season out of JC before the Chiefs shatter his soul completely.

Hammock Parties · 07-20-2013, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko

GD I cannot wait to go 4-12. Only reason I think we get 4 is that I think we get one more solid season out of JC before the Chiefs shatter his soul completely.

It won't be that bad.

Alex's yardage will go up here, but so will his turnovers and sacks.

6-10 or 7-9 and an offseason of excuses incoming.

tredadda · 07-20-2013, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko

This, so ****ing this. The Chiefs FO are content with the latest retreads in the league (Reid, who never accomplished shit really the past few years as his way is antiquated in the league now), and not interested in looking for the next future Superbowl caliber coach that is unmistakably out there. The Chiefs FO think a 9-7 season is success...

9-7 should be the cut throat minimum to keep your job with maybe 8-8 if your team shit the bed the season before.

Until the day 9-7 becomes unacceptable to those in charge and to the fans, the Chiefs will move on to 5 decades (fifty ****ing years) with no SB victory.

Then who would you have wanted instead? Too many people complain about the HC option yet offer no solution either. The Chiefs go out and get an unproven HC (Haley) and the fans complain, they get a relatively successful retread and the fans complain. Nothing seems to work.

nychief · 07-20-2013, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

Then who would you have wanted instead? Too many people complain about the HC option yet offer no solution either. The Chiefs go out and get an unproven HC (Haley) and the fans complain, they get a relatively successful retread and the fans complain. Nothing seems to work.

Todd Haley

Sweet Daddy Hate · 07-20-2013, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

Then who would you have wanted instead? Too many people complain about the HC option yet offer no solution either. The Chiefs go out and get an unproven HC (Haley) and the fans complain, they get a relatively successful retread and the fans complain. Nothing seems to work.

I NEVER complained about Haley. I liked "4th Down Haley". Much more so than "let's punt on 4th and inches"-Marty. Haley with a legit QB and minus Scott Pissholi could have been a hell of a lot of fun.

tredadda · 07-20-2013, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

I'll have to get back to you on that. Unlike the CEO of this franchise, I have two jobs in the real world and don't have much time to do the research.

In spite of that you can give your opinion on the QB situation and posit your opinion on who think would be better for this franchise. Somehow you had enough time to study them and come to a better conclusion than those who have been doing this for a long time and do this for a living. Impressive!

tredadda · 07-20-2013, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

I NEVER complained about Haley. I liked "4th Down Haley". Much more so than "let's punt on 4th and inches"-Marty. Haley with a legit QB and minus Scott Pissholi could have been a hell of a lot of fun.

Fair enough. I said many, but that does not include all.

tredadda · 07-20-2013, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by nychief

Todd Haley

I actually liked Haley more than most. I think he got stuck in the worst situation possible. Working for the worst GM in the league and being forced to start the worst starting QB in the league. I would have liked to see what he could have done under a competent GM who actually was trying to help him win instead of handcuffing him.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 07-20-2013, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

In spite of that you can give your opinion on the QB situation and posit your opinion on who think would be better for this franchise. Somehow you had enough time to study them and come to a better conclusion than those who have been doing this for a long time and do this for a living. Impressive!

QB is the most important position on the field, and candidates are in the limelight every year, regardless of whether Mayock is "banging the table", or his old lady, or whomever. I'll spend time looking at QB's because frankly....do I REALLY have to explain why I would spend time looking at QB's?

Just sayin'.

**Mav** · 07-20-2013, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER

You get really mad when I talk shit on your precious boo boo QB.

It's going to be enjoyable watching you be destroyed.

After this season you will never again post here.

Uh, no, I don't really care that you diss alex smith, actually, I don't care, but your lack of being able to read and understand basic grammar? That's appalling. Of course Alex Smith can throw better than you. When was the last time you were out of your moms basement troll.

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Looking at the two quarterbacks on the market this spring. Both were hurt so I projected the stats out to 16 games for both.

Alex Smith
192 yards per game
3077 yards per game
23 touchdowns
8 ints
17/24
70%

Kevin Kolb
220 yards per game
3950 yards
22 touchdowns
9 ints
20/35
60%

We could have gotten similar production and without giving up 2 2nd second round picks that could have made the team even better. Can you imagine the defense with Arthur Brown as the MLB next to DJ? Or add Robert Woods to WR core?

Yeah because Kevin Kolb has definitely showed the prowess to stay healthy. Lol, people talk about Alex Smith being fragile, what would you call this clown?

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Originally Posted by O.city

Alot of the arguments being made for Alex Smith are basically the same made for Cassel in 09. "Who else was out there", "Can hit the ground running" etc.

Now, just as then, those reasons weren't necessarily wrong. Trading for Cassel, at the time of the trade, wasn't the mistake. The contract, sticking with him etc was the big mistake, (some here knew it was a mistake at the time, which it turned out to be, but for what we needed, it wasn't as bad).

Trading for Alex Smith isn't the problem. Giving up what we gave up, isn't really the problem, although I think it was probably too much, but it is what it is.

But for all the reasons they made the move for him to be right, they have to win now. There isn't/shouldn't be a learning curve in terms of QB development. Systematically and philosophically is a different story, but even that, Smith is supposed to be an intelligent quick learning QB who's in his prime RIGHT NOW.

And using Smith's last two years to show he is this or that, is a little misleading. In terms of Harbaughs system, he was a really good fit in what Harbaugh wanted him to do and he did it well. Here and now, he's not going to be asked to do that in that way anymore, if history shows us anything in terms of coaches and what Andy Reid will do.

So the last 2 years, while Smith was good, don't necessarily show that what he will do here will be the same, worse, or better. I think he has the physical ability to be good in Reid's system, but up to this point in his career, when in that type of offense, he hasn't shown that he can be.

I'm hoping the confidence from the last 2 years will allow him to be better in a pass first system, where things are more on him than they were in SF.

This is such a silly useless argument. That was a Pioli move. He brought in a qb he was familiar with. This is completely different. If you read what Dorsey said, he and the entire staff went over this, and it came back as Alex Smith as the best option period. And no one can say any different until they see how this plays out.

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

wow , dickhead, even King Hill was better than clay

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...H/HillKi00.htm <--king hill's career stats

You are really a genious

Yeahhhhhhhh. Hey, Die in an Aids fire, GENIUS.

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

This is an amazing post. I really hope people take the time to look at this, and admire it for what it is. This post should pretty much be the baseline by which other posts about Alex Smith are measured.

I mean I'd love to think the top number is more than 5%, I really REALLY would.....but my soul cant take the abuse of getting my hopes up too high. These numbers feel correct...and I have watched a shit ton of ALex Smith...and WAY before the last 2 seasons.

You aren't showing that you have seen any of Alex Smith before the last two seasons. If you did, and you were smart, which clearly you are not, you would realize how shitty not just the Coaching, but the entire organization from the top down was until Jed York took command, kicked his daddy out of the building, took advice from Eddie Jr. hired football guys and turned shit around. And if you were a smart person who watched plenty of 49ers game, and knew a shit about football, you would know how night and day better Alex Smith played pre harbaugh, to with Harbaugh, and that same smart person, would see how much better Alex Smith was playing in YEAR TWO, with upgraded weapons, and familiarity with the system. That's what someone who has watched 49ers football should of gotten. Apparently you missed the common sense portion of things.

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't understand. Why wouldn't there be any middle ground?

Why are people convinced that Reid and Dorsey, two guys who have brought in lots of QBs, wouldn't keep trying to bring in new QBs? Smith doesn't have a long-term deal. And the offense they're likely migrating to will probably be very friendly to college QBs.

Because you are talking to the minority of dumbasses who are so disgustingly depressing, that all they can do is look for the negative, see things in black and white, without understanding the entire concept. Everything to them, they feel they have seen before, so of course its going to be the same thing again. Just look at what I mean. Oh we have done this with other qbs before, therefore this is going to fail. Oh, Andy Reid sucked at his last job, we picked up the leftovers, he is going to suck. It's just a minority, I wouldn't even worry about it. They will be the same whiny bitches that will be here whining, when the Chiefs start winning, because they didn't win by enough, or the way they think they should have. Its comical to me.

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko

This, so ****ing this. The Chiefs FO are content with the latest retreads in the league (Reid, who never accomplished shit really the past few years as his way is antiquated in the league now), and not interested in looking for the next future Superbowl caliber coach that is unmistakably out there. The Chiefs FO think a 9-7 season is success...

9-7 should be the cut throat minimum to keep your job with maybe 8-8 if your team shit the bed the season before.

Until the day 9-7 becomes unacceptable to those in charge and to the fans, the Chiefs will move on to 5 decades (fifty ****ing years) with no SB victory.

Well, you should have no problems spending sundays watching anything else but football.

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER

Sam Bradford = 231 YPG
Alex Smith = 174 YPG

And what has been the rams record? Oh, that's right, under Sam Bradford, they have NEVER had a winning record, which means they are trailing a lot, which means they are throwing more. Glad you cleared that up for me.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 07-20-2013, 05:56 PM

Pawnmower is going to kill you.

O.city · 07-20-2013, 05:57 PM

I like the hire, alot.

But other than Andy Reid, I'd have really liked to have hired David Shaw if he were available.

GordonGekko · 07-20-2013, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

Then who would you have wanted instead? Too many people complain about the HC option yet offer no solution either. The Chiefs go out and get an unproven HC (Haley) and the fans complain, they get a relatively successful retread and the fans complain. Nothing seems to work.

Probably something more ****ing intelligent. I'm not paid millions of $$ to figure this bullshit out, but if I was I'd put a little more thought into it and try to find somebody who is ahead of the curve and look for value that way, and not get some over paid league retread that hasn't done shit in the NFL in awhile.

The idea of risk is that you have to take some to get huge rewards. Andy Reid seemed like a super safe, non-risky move that will not land us a championship. Reid is guaranteed mediocrity, 8-8 is going to be a successful season under him. Hope you enjoy it.

tredadda · 07-20-2013, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

QB is the most important position on the field, and candidates are in the limelight every year, regardless of whether Mayock is "banging the table", or his old lady, or whomever. I'll spend time looking at QB's because frankly....do I REALLY have to explain why I would spend time looking at QB's?

Just sayin'.

HCs are pretty important too. I wouldn't underestimate their value.

**Mav** · 07-20-2013, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Pawnmower is going to kill you.

Pawnmower aint going to do shit, but neg rep me and go play with his wrinkly dirty balls.

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