Alex Smith: Chief's aren't running a "Cookie-cutter offense"

[Coogs]

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From NFLNetwork byline:

QB Alex Smith tells NFL Total Access that Chiefs aren't running "cookie-cutter" offense and it isn't the same as what coach Andy Reid ran with Eagles and Packers. Catch the entire interview tonight at 7PM ET on NFL Total Access.

[Sandy Vagina]

Yeah, this attitude of "I'd rather go 2-14 again vs 10-6 and lose in the playoffs" is reeruned.

4 straight months of being the NFL's laughingstock again has to be miserable. If the Chiefs can turn their 2-14 into 9 or 10 wins, how could you not want that? even if you don't win a SB.. 30 other teams didn't either. Going 2-14 and ending up with the first overall pick again doesn't guarantee that you will then get a guaranteed QB stud in the draft.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Because these teams have had legit QBs? E. Manning? Big Rape? Etc. And I don't believe that you need a natural progression in order to establish a QB.

Those teams also had great coaching, solid running backs and very good perimeter players.

Smith has never had an average receiving corp, let alone above average.

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Smith is not a franchise QB. Period. And this is all that really matters. He's a ****ing waste of time and draft picks.

The compensation given to the 49ers didn't indicate that he was Elite, so I don't know who's expecting Elite. I expect above average QB play.

And to say that it's waste of draft picks before he's stepped foot on the field is a bit ridiculous. I'd rather see Alex Smith on the field than Eddie Freeman, Junior Siavii, Kris Wilson, Patrick Surtain, Eric Warfield, Jeff Allen, Dexter McCluster and Javier Arenas.

How about you?

[Chiefs Pantalones]

I really hope we're wrong for once about a QB. It'd be real nice to enjoy a playoff win, first since 93 when I was in 6th ****ing grade. But I guess the most right now that I can look forward to realistically is winning three games. Baby steps.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by O.city

Harbaugh has some awesome blocking schemes. But I think we'll be more inclined to throw out of it than run at teams.

Given Reid's history, yes. But I'm intrigued.

I think Reid is trying to copycat SF's offense. If he does, it's a great fit for us. We have multiple RBs and we stacked with fullbacks and tight ends. Guess which other team does this? San Fran.

The pistol is a terrific formation for a running attack and there are a lot of innovative things you can do out of this formation. Arguably, it's a very run friendly formation. With our offensive line and Charles, that running game could be absolutely sick.

[O.city]

Most teams have been running the read option out of the shotgun and you come straight downhill when you do it, and you're always going to be reading either a DE or OLB depending on scheme.

I don't personally think the read option has a place in the NFL because defensive players are fast enough to disrupt the mesh point thus rendering it useless.

And if you want to effectively run the OPTION out of it, you have to have a mobile QB to render it effective. I think Smith is mobile enough, but I don't think it's a good idea.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

I don't see Clark Hunt as a "football guy". Not at all. I see a man who is more concerned with his father's legacy than a man who eats, sleeps, lives, and breathes the game of football. I see Hunt as a guy who hires guys like Dorsey and Reid, and tells them, "well if there's a problem, YOU figure it out; that's what I'm paying you for". I'm not saying the man isn't "hands-on", but if I owned a team, I guarantee you I would know more about upcoming coordinators, managers, and coaches than what I could glean from my owner-buddies at the once-a-year round table meeting.

Your business is either your passion or it isn't. And in the case of KC; it shows.

You really don't understand football ownership or hell, sports franchise ownership in general.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Those teams also had great coaching, solid running backs and very good perimeter players.

Smith has never had an average receiving corp, let alone above average.



The compensation given to the 49ers didn't indicate that he was Elite, so I don't know who's expecting Elite. I expect above average QB play.

And to say that it's waste of draft picks before he's stepped foot on the field is a bit ridiculous. I'd rather see Alex Smith on the field than Eddie Freeman, Junior Siavii, Kris Wilson, Patrick Surtain, Eric Warfield, Jeff Allen, Dexter McCluster and Javier Arenas.

How about you?

To be fair, we can't really judge previous regime's second round picks as a barometer to what this regime will do.

Same as we can't judge previous regime's QB decisions.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Given Reid's history, yes. But I'm intrigued.

I think Reid is trying to copycat SF's offense. If he does, it's a great fit for us. We have multiple RBs and we stacked with fullbacks and tight ends. Guess which other team does this? San Fran.

The pistol is a terrific formation for a running attack and there are a lot of innovative things you can do out of this formation. Arguably, it's a very run friendly formation. With our offensive line and Charles, that running game could be absolutely sick.

To be fair, so have all of Andy Reid's other offenses. They've always had TE's and fullbacks and he's utilized them.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And to say that it's waste of draft picks before he's stepped foot on the field is a bit ridiculous. I'd rather see Alex Smith on the field than Eddie Freeman, Junior Siavii, Kris Wilson, Patrick Surtain, Eric Warfield, Jeff Allen, Dexter McCluster and Javier Arenas.

How about you?

I'm hopeful that Dorsey and Reid aren't as incompetent when it comes to the draft as Grandpa (since he called all the shots) and Pioli were. That's not exactly making an argument that obviates the importance of second-round picks.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by O.city

To be fair, we can't really judge previous regime's second round picks as a barometer to what this regime will do.

Same as we can't judge previous regime's QB decisions.

This

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by O.city

To be fair, we can't really judge previous regime's second round picks as a barometer to what this regime will do.

Same as we can't judge previous regime's QB decisions.

That's silly.

The Chiefs and every NFL team has a long history of second round picks. No draft pick is a certainty and 50% of these guys, regardless of where they're drafted are out of the league in less than three years.

The Chiefs franchise has had terrible luck drafting in the second round for more than a decade. Sure, Brandon Flowers was a great pick but outside of that, the cupboard's fairly bare.

In the case of needing a starting QB with none available in free agency, either you reach for a player, hoping he works out yet knowing that it's unlikely, or you trade for a solid veteran QB that can win games and guide your team.

In this case, it was a no brainer.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I'm hopeful that Dorsey and Reid aren't as incompetent when it comes to the draft as Grandpa (since he called all the shots) and Pioli were. That's not exactly making an argument that obviates the importance of second-round picks.

It would be nice to occasionally hit on second round picks. But there's never a sure thing in the draft, especially 34 picks in.

[DeezNutz]

Drafting isn't about luck. That's an excuse.

Dude, you seem to be entrenching yourself in a mindset of positivity, reality be damned. That's cool if you want to have that approach. More power to you, but let's not act like this perspective is anything more than the byproduct of hope.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

40 straight years of being the NFL's laughingstock again has to be miserable..

fixed your post.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

That's silly.

The Chiefs and every NFL team has a long history of second round picks. No draft pick is a certainty and 50% of these guys, regardless of where they're drafted are out of the league in less than three years.

The Chiefs franchise has had terrible luck drafting in the second round for more than a decade. Sure, Brandon Flowers was a great pick but outside of that, the cupboard's fairly bare.

In the case of needing a starting QB with none available in free agency, either you reach for a player, hoping he works out yet knowing that it's unlikely, or you trade for a solid veteran QB that can win games and guide your team.

In this case, it was a no brainer.

Yes, but as you've said in previous threads, that can't be held against this regime.

I don't have a problem with what they gave up, if Smith comes in and does what they hope. But when you look what Dorsey has been involved in, in terms of who they've been able to take in the 2nd round, they aren't throw away picks anymore.