Alex Smith: Chief's aren't running a "Cookie-cutter offense"

[Coogs]

Q? FO!

From NFLNetwork byline:

QB Alex Smith tells NFL Total Access that Chiefs aren't running "cookie-cutter" offense and it isn't the same as what coach Andy Reid ran with Eagles and Packers. Catch the entire interview tonight at 7PM ET on NFL Total Access.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Halfway competent quarterback play and last year's team wins at least 5 games. So with as much hype as the moves this offseason have received, I have to say I'd be pretty disappointed with an 8-win effort. They face a weak schedule in a weak division. There's no reason they shouldn't at least be in the hunt for a wild card.

I think every single person inside the Chiefs organization would agree with you.

Originally Posted by O.city

Wait, so a QB who's running is going to take the same hits as a guy who stays in the pocket?

I dont' think thats irrelevant. But carry on.

Depends on the Hit. When you are running with the ball, as a qb, you have the option to slide anytime you want. If you get blindsided by being in the pocket, tell me which hurts worse. Don't forget, qbs can slide anytime while running.

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER

Trent Green had the most dominant running game in football too.

He still managed to throw for 4K.

I think you left out something here......like, NO DEFENSE?

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

And did so before the pass-happy, QB-dependent era we're in now.

See above.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Maverick91579

I think every single person inside the Chiefs organization would agree with you.

Depends on the Hit. When you are running with the ball, as a qb, you have the option to slide anytime you want. If you get blindsided by being in the pocket, tell me which hurts worse. Don't forget, qbs can slide anytime while running.

I think you left out something here......like, NO DEFENSE?


See above.

This makes no sense. Of course if you get blindsided, it's a hit, but having the guy run the option, you aren't going to avoid him taking more hits than him standing in the pocket. Don't forget, QB's can also give themselves up in the pocket!!

That makes no sense to think otherwise.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by O.city

This makes no sense. Of course if you get blindsided, it's a hit, but having the guy run the option, you aren't going to avoid him taking more hits than him standing in the pocket. Don't forget, QB's can also give themselves up in the pocket!!

That makes no sense to think otherwise.

I have no idea what we are arguing about here. Im not saying that if Alex runs more he is going to take less hits. Im saying that you can get injured the same way, and on most passing plays, the qb ends up in the dirt anyways. So, I don't think it really matters. Of course if he is running the ball on the option, his chances go up. But, I also think when running the ball, you have a better chance to protect yourself, or give yourself up, rather than if you are in the pocket, and get destroyed from your blind side.

[O.city]

Running QB's are going to take more hits than pocket Qb's and even those small hits will add up.

I think there is some good in Smith running the option potentially, but I also think with the concussion concern he doesn't need to be taking that many hits.

[Mr. Laz]

different types of running

If it's controlled and 'get what you can get' and then get down or out of bounds then it isn't nearly as dangerous.

Rodgers runs but it's not anything like Vick running

the option pitch isn't like the college ... QB only tries to get the defense to step up not fully commit so they don't get drilled each time.

[Ace Gunner]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I think every QB has to be a little bit of a dickhead to get by. Alex Smith strikes me as a guy who isn't that.

Even Peyton Manning. Seems like a nice guy, but is an absolute dick when his teammates screw up.

well, lol I don't think anyone here is confusing AS with Manning


Imo his playoff performance defines what he truly is -- a 50/50 QB during big games -- at best. But, his most recent playoff performances indicate he is better than he used to be. And, he went into the following (2012) season ascending, so there's that.

I see him as a guy who needs to improve his 50/50 to something closer to 75/25 and then we can talk about what he is after that.

If not, I am certain Dorsey is going to find himself a QB that can do something in the order of 75 % during big games. It is what all good FO guys find, whether it's FA (Young, etc) or the draft.

If not, bye bye Dorsey. But let's at least let the new staff play a pre season game and maybe even a regular game or three before we go all wendler on them.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls

well, lol I don't think anyone here is confusing AS with Manning


Imo his playoff performance defines what he truly is -- a 50/50 QB during big games -- at best. But, his most recent playoff performances indicate he is better than he used to be. And, he went into the following (2012) season ascending, so there's that.

I see him as a guy who needs to improve his 50/50 to something closer to 75/25 and then we can talk about what he is after that.

If not, I am certain Dorsey is going to find himself a QB that can do something in the order of 75 % during big games. It is what all good FO guys find, whether it's FA (Young, etc) or the draft.

If not, bye bye Dorsey. But let's at least let the new staff play a pre season game and maybe even a regular game or three before we go all wendler on them.

There is another thing that is hardly brought up.

When people diss on Alex Smith, they fail to mention that John Dorsey, who knew Matt Flynn very well, also said that Alex Smith was the best option.

So you are talking about them passing on Matt Hasselbeck, Kevin Kolb, who was his best under Reid, Carson Palmer, who is very familiar with the West Coast offense, and Matt Flynn, and of all those options, who all could of been had for cheaper, they paid the biggest price for Alex Smith. They really like the guy. Foolish or not, is yet to be seen. Luckily, not too much longer to wait. 6 weeks till opening day.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Maverick91579

You talk about the Bengals, who were playing at home, like they didn't make the Playoffs.

Oh, so it was a tough opponent, so that's OK?

Pathetic.

If Alex Smith puts up 13 points with the Chiefs, we're going to lose 90 percent of the time.

[nychief]

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER

Oh, so it was a tough opponent, so that's OK?

Pathetic.

If Alex Smith puts up 13 points with the Chiefs, we're going to lose 90 percent of the time.

And if you lost 100 lbs, you'd still be fat.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls

well, lol I don't think anyone here is confusing AS with Manning


Imo his playoff performance defines what he truly is -- a 50/50 QB during big games -- at best. But, his most recent playoff performances indicate he is better than he used to be. And, he went into the following (2012) season ascending, so there's that.

I see him as a guy who needs to improve his 50/50 to something closer to 75/25 and then we can talk about what he is after that.

If not, I am certain Dorsey is going to find himself a QB that can do something in the order of 75 % during big games. It is what all good FO guys find, whether it's FA (Young, etc) or the draft.

If not, bye bye Dorsey. But let's at least let the new staff play a pre season game and maybe even a regular game or three before we go all wendler on them.

I'm not saying he is. I'm just saying that even nice guys can be dickheads.
The knock on Alex Smith is he isn't assertive enough. He's a guy the team respects, but he doesn't necessarily have a killer instinct.

And trust me, I'm one of the people that's ok with the Alex Smith trade as long as they end up with a franchise QB in the next 3 years, but unless something dramatic changes he should be viewed as a stopgap.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by nychief

And if you lost 100 lbs, you'd still be fat.

And if he ever left his mom's basement he would still be a loser.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

Running QB's are going to take more hits than pocket Qb's and even those small hits will add up.

I think there is some good in Smith running the option potentially, but I also think with the concussion concern he doesn't need to be taking that many hits.

I agree. I'm a bit worried about him running a lot as well.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by nychief

And if you lost 100 lbs, you'd still be fat.

I weigh 175 lbs bro.

Sorry, not fat.

Very lean, sexy and fit.

Bitches look at me like a stop sign.

[crazycoffey]

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER

Bitches look at me like a stop sign.

And roll right pass you?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by crazycoffey

And roll right pass you?