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Coogs · 08:16 PM

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QB Alex Smith tells NFL Total Access that Chiefs aren't running "cookie-cutter" offense and it isn't the same as what coach Andy Reid ran with Eagles and Packers. Catch the entire interview tonight at 7PM ET on NFL Total Access.

Hammock Parties · 07-23-2013, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

It's gonna be fun watching people flip flop on Alex Smith.

I can't wait till the first round of flippers roll in.

Slowly, all these ball washers will disappear one by one...until there are only 2-3 left and they will be completely delusional.

Damn, I really hope I'm wrong this time.

We're going to get an influx of support during preseason.

He is going to be garbage during preseason since there is no gameplanning.

Probably less than 6 YPA.

**Mav** · 07-23-2013, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER

This is not true.

You are lying.

Lol. before 2011, Justin Smith was known as a good defensive linemen. After 2011 he was known as elite. Look it up chump. There was discussions in 2011 for Justin Smith as for DPOY, that had never before happened in his career, before that season. It was universally known that before 2011 that Haloti Ngata was the premiere defensive linemen in the league. After this season, there was discussion that it was Justin Smith. Justin Smith was the All pro team defensive Tackle, and back up at defensive end. The first time he had made the all pro team. Which is the only one that matters. Russell Wilson made the pro bowl last year, Cam Newton made it his rookie season. Pro Bowls, especially now, with the Super bowl participants, don't even go to the pro bowl, making it even more useless, and with all the players that don't go for injury issues, or hell just not wanting to go, make it even more useless than that. You are don't know shit about anything that PFF doesn't tell you. The only opinion you accept is the narrow view that fits your false premise. I may be wrong on somethings, and I accept that and OWN it. You are declaring that the Chiefs season is a failure, and that their defense cant be good. both things that you have NO idea if they are going to be true or not.

Jakemall · 07-23-2013, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I believe the margins are that small. I just don't think you learn all that much from them when they're that small and when guys like Cassel make surprising appearances/look surprisingly effective.

I'm not saying anyone could do what Alex Smith does. He's an accurate passer. I think part of his accuracy - beyond natural ability - comes from some of the things he does well - setting up plays, checking into the right play, etc.

I also think part of it is his willingness to check down short of the sticks. He's willing to take the 6-yard pass with 2 YAC on 3rd and 11, and defenses will allow those passes in a lot of cases.

My main thing is I don't believe in the guy making ENOUGH throws like the winner he threw to Vernon Davis to win in the playoffs with any consistency. The throw into tighter (but not blanket) coverage past the sticks. That's backed up by experts who have broken down his play (and especially his play in the Giants game) and by countless 49er fans on the internet.

After losing his job to the shoulder injury a number of years ago, he won it back by making those kinds of throws. He has a history of making those kinds of throws when his back is up against a wall or has nothing to lose. I don't know if he was coached out of doing it, or if he is just conservative by nature, but I absolutely believe he can make those throws.

With that said, he doesn't have a launcher arm...I think those shoulder injuries had a toll. That isn't to say he can't throw deep...but it isn't the missle that some QBs have. I think he's average in the range department...which is more than good enough if he's smart and accurate. Brady has made a career on it. (No that isn't a comparison, just to say it can be done)

**BossChief** · 07-23-2013, 12:52 PM

Justin Smith has always been a beast.

Jakemall · 07-23-2013, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Justin Smith has always been a beast.

That's why Cincy let him go.

duncan_idaho · 07-23-2013, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall

After losing his job to the shoulder injury a number of years ago, he won it back by making those kinds of throws. He has a history of making those kinds of throws when his back is up against a wall or has nothing to lose. I don't know if he was coached out of doing it, or if he is just conservative by nature, but I absolutely believe he can make those throws.

With that said, he doesn't have a launcher arm...I think those shoulder injuries had a toll. That isn't to say he can't throw deep...but it isn't the missle that some QBs have. I think he's average in the range department...which is more than good enough if he's smart and accurate. Brady has made a career on it. (No that isn't a comparison, just to say it can be done)

I don't debate he has the ABILITY to make those throws. Not at all. he CAN.

It's his WILLINGNESS to make them when his back is NOT against the wall. His reliance on safe passes and ball protection at all times takes away a lot of early opportunities, and you don't always get the chance to make up for it against the elite teams late in the game. Especially when it comes to playoff time.

**Mav** · 07-23-2013, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko

Holy shit is that your video? Brown boy production? Pretty sad you link to a video you created. You are so blind in you championing of a loser QB it is hilarious. Alex Smith suuuucksss, and until proven otherwise, which he will get his shot in KC, he sucks. Hasn't really accomplished shit in this league, despite years and years of opportunity. He looked semi-decent game managing a souped up Ferrari of a team, but in the end was benched in favor of second year player. *I realize Montana was benched, but he had won championships by that point so he gets a pass*

actually, no, that's not me. Sadly, yes the video was kinda lame, and it took me all of 20 seconds to find one sufficient enough to put together this silly rumor that every alex pass is under 10 yards. Alex Smith has not sucked the past two years. Souped of FERRARI OF A DEFENSE. There is nothing supped up about the 49ers offense in 2011, or 2012 for that matter. They started Randy Moss at receiver. Think about it......RANDY MOSS, ALL 35 YEARS OLD OF HIM, WHO HAD RETIRED. They also had Delanie Walker, who led the league in PERCENTAGE OF CATCHABLE BALLS DROPPED. This was LAST YEAR, not 2011, which is beyond garbage on offense as I have explained. But this Ferrari that you are calling it. I wonder what the hell do you call the Saints, Packers, and Falcons offense......THE MOTHER SHIP?

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER

We're going to get an influx of support during preseason.

He is going to be garbage during preseason since there is no gameplanning.

Probably less than 6 YPA.

You are probably right. And im sure that your main bitch and complaint, is actually going to be really similar to what a lot of 49ers fans have said for the past two years. Wow, that's it? he will probably only play a series or two just like he did in san Francisco, because he doesn't really need to be seen by andy reid. I just thought we should point that out because that is probably what is going to happen.

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Justin Smith has always been a beast.

A MIZZOU HOMER, PROPPING UP A MIZZOU TIGER? Color me shocked.

ChiefsCountry · 07-23-2013, 12:59 PM

BossChief a Mizzou homer.

**Mav** · 07-23-2013, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I don't debate he has the ABILITY to make those throws. Not at all. he CAN.

It's his WILLINGNESS to make them when his back is NOT against the wall. His reliance on safe passes and ball protection at all times takes away a lot of early opportunities, and you don't always get the chance to make up for it against the elite teams late in the game. Especially when it comes to playoff time.

How much of that, do you attribute to Coaching? I know for a fact, because it was discussed many MANY MANY MANY times that Nolan didn't want turn overs. Singletary pfff, he just wanted to run the ball, and he didn't care about the passing game period, and Greg Roman, and Jim Harbaugh instilled the ultra conservative mantra in him and cemented it.

I do too, wonder how much of that is Alex's willingness to take chances, and his good soldier like approach to do EXACTLY what is asked of him. Obviously, he has shown that HE CAN do it......If Andy Reid is encouraging him to be more aggressive, then I hope that Alex Smith does take some chances.

**Mav** · 07-23-2013, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall

That's why Cincy let him go.

nah, he has always been good/great, and the reason they let him go, was because they were switching to the 3-4, and didn't think he could play end.

Whoops. Apparently the Bengals didn't know much about Justin smith either.

**Mav** · 07-23-2013, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

BossChief a Mizzou homer.

In my defense, he doesn't have who he likes in his profile, and he doesn't have his teams listed like I do in my signature lol. .

ChiefsCountry · 07-23-2013, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

nah, he has always been good/great, and the reason they let him go, was because they were switching to the 3-4, and didn't think he could play end.

Whoops. Apparently the Bengals didn't know much about Justin smith either.

Bengals never switched to a 3-4 defense.

**Mav** · 07-23-2013, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Bengals never switched to a 3-4 defense.

LOL, you might want to do some research on that........

<-Browns fan, and I love Brian Simmons from North Carolina who was one of their ILB's when marvin lewis took over as coach.

ChiefsCountry · 07-23-2013, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

LOL, you might want to do some research on that........

<-Browns fan, and I love Brian Simmons from North Carolina who was one of their ILB's when marvin lewis took over as coach.

I have douche. Bengals haven't been a 3-4 team since the late 90s.

keg in kc · 07-23-2013, 01:16 PM

When does camp start so threads like this can die?

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