Preseason Week 2 - What Do You Want to See?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Ummmm... Why?

Chase Daniel shouldn't play a single second half snap. With his contract, his job is secure. Tyler Bray... it would be nice to get him reps, but let's be real here. He's going to make the roster guaranteed, even if that's the practice squad.

The one guy fighting for his job is Stanzi. He deserves a shot to earn a right to keep it on the field. If you're only going to give him 1 or 2 drives, then why waste your time? Just cut him.

But I'd rather we kept him as our #3 guy and kept Bray on Practice Squad.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Chase Daniel shouldn't play a single second half snap. With his contract, his job is secure. Tyler Bray... it would be nice to get him reps, but let's be real here. He's going to make the roster guaranteed, even if that's the practice squad.

The one guy fighting for his job is Stanzi. He deserves a shot to earn a right to keep it on the field. If you're only going to give him 1 or 2 drives, then why waste your time? Just cut him.

But I'd rather we kept him as our #3 guy and kept Bray on Practice Squad.

Bray is not going to the practice squad.

Stanzi has been in the league for 2 seasons now. He's dog shit... move on. He's the 4th string QB and there's no way you play him over the #2 and #3 QBs.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Bray is not going to the practice squad.

Stanzi has been in the league for 2 seasons now. He's dog shit... move on. He's the 4th string QB and there's no way you play him over the #2 and #3 QBs.

If Stanzi is the 4th string QB and that's decided, then just cut him now. Don't waste snaps on him.

If you're going to keep him, give him a shot to earn his stripes. You can't call a guy dog shit based on the limited opportunities he was given under the Pioli regime. Bray would be fine on the Practice Squad. He'll easily clear waivers and he needs time. And given that I have no confidence at all in Chase Daniel right now, I'd rather Stanzi be the next in line in a pinch than Bray.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

If Stanzi is the 4th string QB and that's decided, then just cut him now. Don't waste snaps on him.

If you're going to keep him, give him a shot to earn his stripes. You can't call a guy dog shit based on the limited opportunities he was given under the Pioli regime. Bray would be fine on the Practice Squad. He'll easily clear waivers and he needs time. And given that I have no confidence at all in Chase Daniel right now, I'd rather Stanzi be the next in line in a pinch than Bray.

Your're dumb. Bray wouldn't last a ****ing day on the PS before being taken by another team and Stanzi has had 2 ****ing seasons to earn his stripes... get him the **** out of here.

[Jakemall]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Your're dumb. Bray wouldn't last a ****ing day on the PS before being taken by another team and Stanzi has had 2 ****ing seasons to earn his stripes... get him the **** out of here.

You really think Bray makes another teams 53 at this point sight unseen? I'm not saying you're wrong...but I'd need to see more in the pre-season games to feel strongly one way or another.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Your're dumb. Bray wouldn't last a ****ing day on the PS before being taken by another team and Stanzi has had 2 ****ing seasons to earn his stripes... get him the **** out of here.

He was an undrafted rookie. This debate happens every year and these guys always clear the practice squad.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

He was an undrafted rookie. This debate happens every year and these guys always clear the practice squad.

He was an undrafted FA with 1st round talent and a HS brain that the Chiefs had to double up on to sign in FA. Get out.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by jd1020

He was an undrafted FA with 1st round talent and a HS brain that the Chiefs had to double up on to sign in FA. Get out.

I like the idea of grooming the kid. The idea that he's a risk to not make a practice squad roster is nonsense. If any team believed he was first round talent, he would've been drafted. Period.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

If Stanzi is the 4th string QB and that's decided, then just cut him now. Don't waste snaps on him.

If you're going to keep him, give him a shot to earn his stripes. You can't call a guy dog shit based on the limited opportunities he was given under the Pioli regime. Bray would be fine on the Practice Squad. He'll easily clear waivers and he needs time. And given that I have no confidence at all in Chase Daniel right now, I'd rather Stanzi be the next in line in a pinch than Bray.

You're an idiot if you think Breast would clear waivers. I may have agreed with you pre camp, but now the secrets out. There has been more than enough buzz to ensure he'd be picked up somewhere.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by aturnis

You're an idiot if you think Breast would clear waivers. I may have agreed with you pre camp, but now the secrets out. There has been more than enough buzz to ensure he'd be picked up somewhere.

We have this same conversation every single year. The only buzz in camp is in Kansas City because we like the guy. Nobody outside of Kansas City is talking about Tyler Bray. Most teams at the end of the preseason will NOT be looking to add a QB after they spent a ton of sweat and tears trimming their roster to 53. If they do, there could be guys like Vick, Matt Scott, Dennis Dixon, Stephen McGee, Tyler Wilson, etc... on the market who will get first pick.

Again, Bray's play isn't surprising anyone. Everyone knew he could throw. He wasn't drafted because of his attitude. You think teams are completely changing their mind because he behaved for a month?

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

We have this same conversation every single year. The only buzz in camp is in Kansas City because we like the guy. Nobody outside of Kansas City is talking about Tyler Bray. Most teams at the end of the preseason will NOT be looking to add a QB after they spent a ton of sweat and tears trimming their roster to 53. If they do, there could be guys like Vick, Matt Scott, Dennis Dixon, Stephen McGee, Tyler Wilson, etc... on the market who will get first pick.

Again, Bray's play isn't surprising anyone. Everyone knew he could throw. He wasn't drafted because of his attitude. You think teams are completely changing their mind because he behaved for a month?

I'm not talking about fan Buzz. I'm talking about the things coaches have said as well as what media has said sources within the organization say about the Chiefs being high on him. If we know about it, other NFL teams know more.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by aturnis

I'm not talking about fan Buzz. I'm talking about the things coaches have said as well as what media has said sources within the organization say about the Chiefs being high on him. If we know about it, other NFL teams know more.

There are players like that every single year. We freak out every single year. And they almost always clear to the practice squad.

Teams will be cutting 3rd and 4th round picks of this year's draft. Quality veterans like Vick could get cut. An undrafted rookie like bray isn't on anyone's hot list. Nobody outside of kc is talking about bray. Just another example of people mistaking kc buzz for general buzz. Nobody is talking about bray outside of kc and I highly doubt that teams suddenly think his attitude turned around in just a few months.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

We have this same conversation every single year. The only buzz in camp is in Kansas City because we like the guy. Nobody outside of Kansas City is talking about Tyler Bray. Most teams at the end of the preseason will NOT be looking to add a QB after they spent a ton of sweat and tears trimming their roster to 53. If they do, there could be guys like Vick, Matt Scott, Dennis Dixon, Stephen McGee, Tyler Wilson, etc... on the market who will get first pick.

Again, Bray's play isn't surprising anyone. Everyone knew he could throw. He wasn't drafted because of his attitude. You think teams are completely changing their mind because he behaved for a month?

Also. This "attitude" statement of yours is absurd. I've never heard anyone reference his attitude as any reason.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by aturnis

Also. This "attitude" statement of yours is absurd. I've never heard anyone reference his attitude as any reason.

then you haven't been paying attention

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...,d.b2I&cad=rja

Weaknesses

Bray has two major weaknesses that I see when I've watched him. The first is correctable, and the second is a gamble. Bray is mind-numbingly inconsistent with nearly everything he does. From footwork to reading defenses, Bray is all over the charts in terms of performance. The second weakness is his attitude.

Bray is rough around the edges of his tremendous raw talent. He knows how to set his feet properly and deliver the ball to exactly the right spot, but he doesn't do it all the time. Bray's accuracy wasn't all his receivers' fault, and I trace it mostly to bad footwork. Bray knows where to go with the football, but he'll regress and still stare down receivers. I've seen him work the pocket masterfully in some games on some plays, while in others it's as if he's got no feel at all. Bray has a great deal of talent, but a lot to work on.

What concerns me more than his inconsistencies is his attitude. He doesn't seem to have a team-first, killer attitude. His interviews make him look like an arrogant college kid that has been given a lot in his life. He doesn't come across as a leader, and his off-season issues at Tennessee underscore the point. Bray comes across as a ultra-talented kid that never really works for anything. A team wants a quarterback who is the hardest worker on the team, and someone that's a leader. Right now, that's not Tyler Bray. A team drafting Bray needs to be careful.