Andy Reid

[RunKC]

Get him Clark.

Bring in the walrus!

But seriously, he's getting the shaft in Philly. He's the best coach of the realistic options who proven the most.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

A little premature for people to get hyped up about Tannehill. He had a 12/13 TD/INT ratio last year. What I saw is a guy with good not elite arm strength. Good but not even close to elite athleticism. And a guy with really small hands, which is going to be a problem in cold weather and messy conditions.

I'm not as sold on Tannehill as others. I think he has upside to be a middle-of-the-road QB at best. I guess that's an upgrade, but I don't think he has franchise QB written all over him.

Like I said, I don't know much about the guy other than the few games at a&m I watched. I knew we wouldn't take him so I didn't really get too invested there, so I won't comment one way I another.

I think tannehill, from the little I did see, would be balls awesome in shanny's system.

It's Stephenson over Wilson tht stings the most.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by O.city

Like I said, I don't know much about the guy other than the few games at a&m I watched. I knew we wouldn't take him so I didn't really get too invested there, so I won't comment one way I another.

I think tannehill, from the little I did see, would be balls awesome in shanny's system.

It's Stephenson over Wilson tht stings the most.

Not good enough. Too short.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Not good enough. Too short.

Seriously, get help.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

That's a ridiculous comment. Nose Tackles are the heart of any 3-4 defense and we've said that a million times. And Poe isn't even a traditional Nose Tackle. He's a Nose Tackle with potential to one day play multiple techniques, which is crucial in the modern 3-4. If he becomes a great Nose Tackle, this pick is an absolute steal and you know it.

We all know QB is important, but let's not start this tirade against any pick that isn't a QB. Yeah, drafting offensive linemen, 5-techs, safeties, and running backs are safe picks at 1.1. Drafting a raw talent like Poe is exactly the kind of boom/bust pick we should ahve been making more of. I think it's silly to be critical of the pick, especially if the negative commentary was that he shouldn't have been picked because he was raw.

Even the most impactful pass rushers don't change the outcome of more than 1 in 10 plays. I'm talking stops, sacks, QB hits, etc.Let's not act as if Poe is gonna be JJ Watt here. The 5% number is far more reasonable than you realize.

But, just for the sake of argument, let's push that number to 10% so you can sleep better at night...that amount of impact pales in comparison to the impact a young quarterback gives you if you hit on the pick.

Tanehill ran the second fastest operating offense in football (NE was first) as a rookie and oozed composure and accuracy while cementing himself as the unquestioned leader of his team.

If you wouldn't trade Poe and Allen for him, you need to stop drinking kool aid.

[O.city]

Oozed composure an accuracy? With a 12/13 td:int ratio?

[O.city]

So now because someone doesn't like EVERY qb prospect coming out, they're an idiot?

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by O.city

Seriously, get help.

Hey, I already bought tickets to a couple games and am looking forward to a watchable year of football for the first time in awhile...I just think we keep passing on opportunities to significantly impact the team and give them a chance at what should be every teams ultimate goal.

Having a 10+ year window by drafting a quarterback high in the draft that gives you a chance every year.

Sorry that you disagree.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Not good enough. Too short.

You're ****ing crazy if you're serious. Wilson is a beast

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Even the most impactful pass rushers don't change the outcome of more than 1 in 10 plays. I'm talking stops, sacks, QB hits, etc.Let's not act as if Poe is gonna be JJ Watt here. The 5% number is far more reasonable than you realize.

But, just for the sake of argument, let's push that number to 10% so you can sleep better at night...that amount of impact pales in comparison to the impact a young quarterback gives you if you hit on the pick.

Tanehill ran the second fastest operating offense in football (NE was first) as a rookie and oozed composure and accuracy while cementing himself as the unquestioned leader of his team.

If you wouldn't trade Poe and Allen for him, you need to stop drinking kool aid.

We get it. Qbs are impact players. I'm not a fan of the Tannehill pick but I would have been okay with it. Ultimately, I think you have a QB with matt Ryan upside. You could do a lot worse, but you could do a lot better.

But look... This idea of ragging on every pick that isn't a QB is ludicrous. Rag on safe picks like fisher, berry, or Tyson Jackson. Don't rag on guys like Poe who has the potential to be a very good, bona fide top 10 pick.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Hey, I already bought tickets to a couple games and am looking forward to a watchable year of football for the first time in awhile...I just think we keep passing on opportunities to significantly impact the team and give them a chance at what should be every teams ultimate goal.

Having a 10+ year window by drafting a quarterback high in the draft that gives you a chance every year.

Sorry that you disagree.

First off, I was kidding.

Secondly, please link me to a post where I disagreed with that? I fully agree with that statement, but I also realize that there wasn't a qb necessarily worth that high pick this year, which yes is debatable.

I don't necessarily agree that the drafted qb has to come from high in the draft, it just has to be the right qb. Don't care where he comes from.

You keep coming up with these false arguments just to argue.

[BossChief]

I got work to do. I'll follow up later.

Let's not try so hard to create strawmen though.

[RealSNR]

Alex Smith sucks.

Eric Fisher sucks.

Terrence Copper rules.

[Dave Lane]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Let's say we had traded up To 6 and given up the same compensation to do so as Dallas did (even though we owned slot 11 and Dallas owned slot 14....meaning we would have probably had to give up LESS to move up)

Who here wouldn't trade Dontari Poe and Jeff Allen for Ryan Tanehill?

Id make that trade in a New York minute.

How about just Poe and Wilson?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I got work to do. I'll follow up later.

Let's not try so hard to create strawmen though.

So you telling me I'm an true fan drinking the kool aid because I don't agree that passing on geno smith at 1.1 an trading fr Alex smith and picking up Tyler bray is an horrendous mistake that will haunt the franchise for years.

That the straw man your talking about?

Just because I'm not all up in arms about our qb situation and not pissed at every qb we passed on doesn't mean I don't want this franchise to heavily invest in the qb position.

[BossChief]

I didn't say any of that JFC.