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Old 08-24-2013, 08:03 PM  
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Old 08-30-2013, 09:43 AM   #91
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Old 08-30-2013, 09:45 AM   #92
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Let's not make this a story of Fisher being unable to beat out Albert in a fair LT competition. It was clear the Chiefs were going Fisher at RT, Albert at LT right after the draft.
The only reason you don't want to make this a story of Fisher being unable to beat our Albert, is because it defeats the argument. If Fisher was clearly a better tackle right now, he'd be there. But he's not. He may develop into that player. But clearly right now he is not. I certainly hope that he develops into a HOF lineman. That would be great and I'd have no complaints about his draft spot.
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Old 08-30-2013, 10:01 AM   #93
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The only reason you don't want to make this a story of Fisher being unable to beat our Albert, is because it defeats the argument. If Fisher was clearly a better tackle right now, he'd be there. But he's not. He may develop into that player. But clearly right now he is not. I certainly hope that he develops into a HOF lineman. That would be great and I'd have no complaints about his draft spot.
You know that the plan was to trade Albert but once they couldn't it made sense to leave the existing LT at LT.

You are being argumentative just for the sake of it.

Is Joekel a project? He is playing RT this season and appears to be needing some adjustment time as well.

http://jacksonville.com/opinion/blog...jaguars-opener

People on CP want to flip out over a bad game and a few TC practices by Fisher while Geno stinks up Manhattan and couldn't beat out butt fumble barring the injury.


All rookies are projects to some point. Fisher is not the project Geno is, not even close.
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Old 08-30-2013, 10:06 AM   #94
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Bray>>>>>>> Daniels!!
Agree. Tyler Bray is a much better QB than BJ Daniels.
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Old 08-30-2013, 10:11 AM   #95
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Agree. Tyler Bray is a much better QB than BJ Daniels.
Now now. Bj Daniels isn't bad. Daniels is a better football player than Bray.

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The people already claiming Smith is a bust based on a preseason with a team that everyone knows is going to be pretty bad, really really really better hope he doesn't actually have a good season anytime soon.
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Old 08-30-2013, 10:16 AM   #97
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You know that the plan was to trade Albert but once they couldn't it made sense to leave the existing LT at LT.

You are being argumentative just for the sake of it.

Is Joekel a project? He is playing RT this season and appears to be needing some adjustment time as well.

http://jacksonville.com/opinion/blog...jaguars-opener

People on CP want to flip out over a bad game and a few TC practices by Fisher while Geno stinks up Manhattan and couldn't beat out butt fumble barring the injury.


All rookies are projects to some point. Fisher is not the project Geno is, not even close.
No, I've never seen any proof that was the plan. There was lots of talk about lots of scenarios. Many people were also predicting that the Chiefs would put Fisher at LT from the start and move Albert to G or RT. The only thing the Chiefs have said is that they planned to play Fisher at RT.

From what I've heard, Joekel hasn't been struggling quite as much as Fisher, but it sounds like he's got some development to do as well.

I'm not flipping out about either Fisher or Geno struggling. I expected them both to need some development. Which appears to be the case, and there's nothing wrong with that. I'm just pointing out that Fisher is a developing player no differently than Geno.
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The only reason you don't want to make this a story of Fisher being unable to beat our Albert, is because it defeats the argument. If Fisher was clearly a better tackle right now, he'd be there. But he's not. He may develop into that player. But clearly right now he is not. I certainly hope that he develops into a HOF lineman. That would be great and I'd have no complaints about his draft spot.
I don't know about that; Reid seems to value both tackles equally, and with the way the defensive game in the NFL has evolved, I think he may be ahead of the curve in understanding the importance of having solid bookend tackles. It is worth noting that all four tackles in the Super Bowl were former first round picks. I hope they sign Albert to a long term deal in the offseason; we'd be set at T for a long time to come.
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Old 08-30-2013, 10:36 AM   #99
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The people already claiming Smith is a bust based on a preseason with a team that everyone knows is going to be pretty bad, really really really better hope he doesn't actually have a good season anytime soon.
well that and he's a stinking pos Jet

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Yea there is all that too! **** Geno!
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You know that the plan was to trade Albert but once they couldn't it made sense to leave the existing LT at LT.
I don't for a minute think that was the plan.

I think Phat Andy meant to do this. He was always a huge "hogs" type of guy and his last 3 years in Philli he got away from that and it got his QB's murdered.

I honestly believe he wants that foundation set, redoubled, and built on a foundation the ****ing pyramids in Egypt would be proud of...
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I haven't watched enough of the QBs drafted this year but from what I have seen and read Bray seems to be as good it not better than all of them. Big Andy seems to have done a great job with him to this point. And giving him almost three quarters of play last night was awesome. I think a lot of teams would have kept Stanzi on the roster for another week and wasted snaps on a guy who was going to be cut.
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Bray>>>>>>> Daniels!!

I no curr if anyone agrees or disagrees with me on this. I think Bray should move up and take second string reps and suit up all three qbs on game day. Daniels is what he is as a back up will always be a back up quarterback. I don't see any reason to waist valuable reps when we could be hard work at developing a prospect with talent like Bray has. Yes Bray still has a lot to prove and work ethic is one of them but so far he has shown he comes to work.

I don't think Bray is a mental case that he is made out to be (mostly deserving i think) I think he should have been taken in the second or third rounds of the draft and be given an opportunity as such. As an UDFA he got to chose his team and I think it's cool he chose us.

I think Bray could be worked in and ready to go by later this season. Not to rush him but get him prepared if he has to go in and have Chase as a safety net if the pressure is too much for Bray (as in o-line not being able to protect him). I think Bray can step up to the plate when called upon.

I would expect some errant throws but he can more than make up for those as he can move the chains and score touchdowns more frequently than the dead out in the flats passing attack Alex Smith does. 3 and outs don't do us a damn bit of good. 7 points > 3 points.

Am just stoke from what I saw Bray can do even if it was against scrubs. Green Bays quarterbacks couldn't do anything against our scrubs.
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I no curr if anyone agrees or disagrees with me on this. I think Bray should move up and take second string reps and suit up all three qbs on game day. Daniels is what he is as a back up will always be a back up quarterback. I don't see any reason to waist valuable reps when we could be hard work at developing a prospect with talent like Bray has. Yes Bray still has a lot to prove and work ethic is one of them but so far he has shown he comes to work.

I don't think Bray is a mental case that he is made out to be (mostly deserving i think) I think he should have been taken in the second or third rounds of the draft and be given an opportunity as such. As an UDFA he got to chose his team and I think it's cool he chose us.

I think Bray could be worked in and ready to go by later this season. Not to rush him but get him prepared if he has to go in and have Chase as a safety net if the pressure is too much for Bray (as in o-line not being able to protect him). I think Bray can step up to the plate when called upon.

I would expect some errant throws but he can more than make up for those as he can move the chains and score touchdowns more frequently than the dead out in the flats passing attack Alex Smith does. 3 and outs don't do us a damn bit of good. 7 points > 3 points.

Am just stoke from what I saw Bray can do even if it was against scrubs Green Bays quarterbacks couldn't do anything against our scrubs.
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