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Old 04-28-2013, 03:03 PM  
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Geno Smith vs Alex Smith - It's on.
It's on now. Geno Smith is probably going to be starting for the Jets this season.

Alex Smith will be the Chiefs QB for the forseeable future. If he's a success, we'll probably get five good years out of him.

So who's gonna win more NFL games over that time period?

Put your ten pounders on the table and make a vote

Alex: 11 wins
Geno: 8 wins
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Old 08-31-2013, 01:58 PM   #1996
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Lets look at all QB's that win a superbowl. Then lets look at those guys versus all 1st roundpicks.

Next lets look at the rest of the draft QB's and the Superbowls they have won, and compare them to all the rest of the QB's drafted 2nd and higher.

Which group is going to be a shittier group? Which group has a higher PERCENTAGE of super bowl winners selected?

Just because some guys don't pan out, that does not mean that it has anything to do with the guys who do. Statistics show if you want to win super bowls, your chances are phenomenally higher with a first round QB.


God damn.
If you go by first round QBs that have been successful vs. first round QBs that haven't over the last ten years you will see that the percentage of losers is much higher than the percentage of successful ones - and I'm not even talking SB here, I'm talking any kind of success at all - playoffs, etc.

Face it, no one but the desperate Bills thought there was a QB worth a first round pick this year. Reaching to take one in the first that doesn't deserve to be there won't magically make them a winning QB.
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Old 08-31-2013, 01:59 PM   #1997
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Thank you. I'm just not going through this shit again.
In other words, "lalalalalala, I can't hear you, lalalalalala".
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Old 08-31-2013, 02:00 PM   #1998
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If you go by first round QBs that have been successful vs. first round QBs that haven't over the last ten years you will see that the percentage of losers is much higher than the percentage of successful ones - and I'm not even talking SB here, I'm talking any kind of success at all - playoffs, etc.

Face it, no one but the desperate Bills thought there was a QB worth a first round pick this year. Reaching to take one in the first that doesn't deserve to be there won't magically make them a winning QB.

And do you not get that if you DO NOT have a first round QB the chances that they don't do shit is MUCH MUCH HIGHER like almost certainly ?

So just because your chance for a big hit is something like 35-40% you shouldn't go for that. You would rather look at guys who have a .1 % chance to hit?
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In other words, "lalalalalala, I can't hear you, lalalalalala".
I'm old and tired, so yeah; that'll work.
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Just because some guys don't pan out, that does not mean that it has anything to do with the guys who do. Statistics show if you want to win super bowls, your chances are phenomenally higher with a first round QB.


God damn.
Phenomenally higher? Uh, no.

There have been 106 QB's taken in Round One since 1967. Fifteen have won Super Bowls, or 14%.

There have been 55 QB's taken in Round Two since 1967. Three have won a Super Bowl, or 5%.

I don't consider 9% to be a "phenomenal" difference.
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Thank you. I'm just not going through this shit again.
That's because you're ****ing stupid and don't have any facts to back up your bullshit.

If there's someone that knows LESS about the NFL in forum, I'd be shocked, although you and Tattoo are neck in neck.
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And do you not get that if you DO NOT have a first round QB the chances that they don't do shit is MUCH MUCH HIGHER like almost certainly ?

So just because your chance for a big hit is something like 35-40% you shouldn't go for that. You would rather look at guys who have a .1 % chance to hit?
Your percentages are way off.

Did you pull them out of your ass or SDH's?
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Here we go Geno! Here we go! Hoohoo!
It will be sad watching Geno fail, but he is not NFL ready and shouldn't start at this point even on a good team. Starting on a bad team will destroy what chance he has of becoming an NFL QB. Naming him starter at this point is a death sentence for his career.

Not that they have much choice when the only other option is buttfumble.
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Phenomenally higher? Uh, no.

There have been 106 QB's taken in Round One since 1967. Fifteen have won Super Bowls, or 14%.

There have been 55 QB's taken in Round Two since 1967. Three have won a Super Bowl, or 5%.

I don't consider 9% to be a "phenomenal" difference.

I am comparing Round 1 to round 2+. The argument here is first round or not, not first round or 2nd round.
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Your percentages are way off.

Did you pull them out of your ass or SDH's?
Just guesstimating the current crop of 1st rounders in the NFL as good QB's and POTENTIAL super bowl winners, not just guys who have already won a bowl.
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That's because you're ****ing stupid and don't have any facts to back up your bullshit.

If there's someone that knows LESS about the NFL in forum, I'd be shocked, although you and Tattoo are neck in neck.
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