NFL Draft Updated Draft selection order - Page 11

Mr. Laz · 12-15-2009, 11:20 AM

PRELIMINARY 2010 FIRST-ROUND DRAFT SELECTION ORDER

December 15, 2009

(F indicates coin flip required to break tie; Note opposition W-L % based on all 16 opponents this season)

#	Team	W-L	Opp W-L %
1	St. Louis	1-12	.548
2	Tampa Bay	1-12	.563
3	Cleveland	2-11	.519
4	Detroit	2-11	.534
5	Kansas City	3-10	.519
6	Washington	4-9	.486
7	Oakland	4-9	.514
8	Seattle	5-8	.471
9	Denver (from Chicago)	5-8	.495
10	Buffalo	5-8	.510
11	San Francisco (from Carolina)	5-8	.548
12	Pittsburgh	6-7	.486
13	San Francisco	6-7	.490
14	Atlanta	6-7	.500
15	Houston	6-7	.538
16	Tennessee	6-7	.553
17	Jacksonville	7-6	.490
18	Baltimore	7-6	.514
19	New York Jets	7-6	.529
20	New York Giants	7-6	.534
21	Miami	7-6	.543
22	Arizona	8-5	.447
23	Dallas	8-5	.500
24	Seattle (from Denver)	8-5	.514
25	New England	8-5	.529
26	Green Bay	9-4	.428
27	Cincinnati	9-4	.457
28	Philadelphia	9-4	.476
29	San Diego	10-3	.457
30	Minnesota	11-2	.423
31	New Orleans	13-0	.394
32	Indianapolis	13-0	.481

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Chiefnj2 · 12-16-2009, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by lostcause

Sims was a reach. He somehow flew up the draft boards post season and got credit for Julius Peppers godlike year. The teams that bought into this pretense were stupid.

Sims was very productive in college (Three-year starter who appeared in 43 games with 33 starts at North Carolina... Finished his college career with 167 tackles, 14.0 sacks, 11 passes defensed, 40 quarterback pressures and one fumble recovery), plus he played very well during Senior Bowl week. He wasn't just a workout warrior at the combine.

**The Bad Guy** · 12-16-2009, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by baitism

He could easily play on the other side of the 3-4 from Hali, and be a lot better at it.

Do you have a set of eyes?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-16-2009, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Do you have a set of eyes?

Mr. Laz · 12-16-2009, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

This team loses the battle in the trenches on a weekly basis. Give me Codys big ass. It's not sexy but it will improve our pass rush by other players.

except for the fact that teams don't have to double team Cody on passing downs so it won't help our pass rush.

SDChiefs · 12-16-2009, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bigbucks24

So New England ran the spread last year? So basically what you are saying is that the spread offense inflates the stats and possibly the value of a QB. And their value can't be accurately evaluated based on their time in the spread (like last year)? If that is true, no one in their right mind would ever trade a 2nd round pick for a spread QB and give him $61MM. That would be insane.

$63MM. Im just saying.

Frankie · 12-16-2009, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Who could have thunk that a LT might have problems after dropping considerable weight and currently playing too light?

I do not disagree with that at all. All i'm saying is his play at LT (albeit after the weight loss) leaves a lot to be desired. Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of his. But I do think MAYBE if we switched him to LG and got ourselves a future great LT we might end up with an awesome left side of the Oline for a decade.

Mr. Laz · 12-16-2009, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SDChiefs

$63MM. Im just saying.

how much of the 63 million is guaranteed?

Frankie · 12-16-2009, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Ryan Sims would have been a top 10 pick no matter what teams were picking in the top 10.

Didn't we beat the Vikes to the podium with our pick for him?

Frankie · 12-16-2009, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

This team loses the battle in the trenches on a weekly basis. Give me Codys big ass. It's not sexy but it will improve our pass rush by other players.

PREVERT!!!!

Mecca · 12-16-2009, 12:27 PM

I really don't want to see a LT pimp again, none of those guys are worth top 10 picks.

Mr. Laz · 12-16-2009, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

I do not disagree with that at all. All i'm saying is his play at LT (albeit after the weight loss) leaves a lot to be desired. Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of his. But I do think MAYBE if we switched him to LG and got ourselves a future great LT we might end up with an awesome left side of the Oline for a decade.

i'm disagreeing

we've played 10 games this season ... the weight excuse stop being viable after about 3 games imo

preseason 4 games (albeit only 1 quarter playing time per)
3 games of full play

getting over the weight bullshit

now changing the technique and offensive blocking scheme is a much more viable reason to look at. But just like a spread quarterback, if Albert can only handle one blocking scheme type then it's a problem.

ToxSocks · 12-16-2009, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by shitgoose

I wish the draft would just hurry the **** up and get here. There is so much time between now and then I think my head is going to explode with all this draft talk. I know its pretty much gonna go like this so I wish we could just get it over with

Draft Day

- Wake up, eat breakfast, turn on NFL Network, real ****in' excited.
- Call my brother to come over and drink beer
- Watch Raiders **** up there pick and call my friend who is an idiot raiders fan to make fun
- Watch Chiefs reach on 1st pick and get pissed off.
- Drink some beer and hope for better pick in 2nd rd
- Recieve call from idiot raider fan friend making fun and asking me the last time the chiefs won a playoff game
- Get pissed and threaten to fight idiot raider fan friend
- Log onto chiefs planet to witness implosion
- Watch chiefs make shitty picks in 2nd round
- drink some more beer and try to make myself like the picks
- Brother leaves and wife starts getting on my ass about all the empties and me screaming obscenities at the television
- Rewatch KU basketball championship game to make myself feel better
- Get shot down by wifey for coitus
- End terrible day

Very similar to every Sunday during football season huh?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-16-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

This team loses the battle in the trenches on a weekly basis. Give me Codys big ass. It's not sexy but it will improve our pass rush by other players.

OMG I'M EVERY DUMBASS FAN PLEASE PLEASE GIVE ME O-LINE AND OVERPAY MILLIONS AND I WILL NEVER STOP CALLING FOR O-LINE ON DRAFT DAY AND 2 + 2 = JELLO TO THE ELEVENTYSHIP WHERE I WATCH RERUNS OF LIFE GOES ON BECAUSE CORKY IS MY IDOL FTW!!!!!!!!!!!@

**DeezNutz** · 12-16-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

i'm disagreeing

we've played 10 games this season ... the weight excuse stop being viable after about 3 games imo

preseason 4 games (albeit only 1 quarter playing time per)
3 games of full play

getting over the weight bullshit

now changing the technique and offensive blocking scheme is a much more viable reason to look at. But just like a spread quarterback, if Albert can only handle one blocking scheme type then it's a problem.

3 games? And you've arrived at this number how?

He's too light to play the position. It's not something that can be discounted, and it's a huge hurdle for a second-year player to overcome.

Mr. Laz · 12-16-2009, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

3 games? And you've arrived at this number how?

He's too light to play the position. It's not something that can be discounted, and it's a huge hurdle for a second-year player to overcome.

3 games + 4 quarters from the preseason

4 games or 1/4 of a season is enough imo

He's too light to play the position?

albert 310
matt light 305
jake long 317
eugene monroe 320
michael oher 309
joe staley 315
joe thomas 312
tre thomas 317
ton ugoh 301
vollmer 315 (and the dude is 6'8" so he's not thicker)

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