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Old 11-14-2011, 06:35 PM  
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God I hope this kid works out at QB.....

Win the job in practice this week Stanzi!
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Old 11-16-2011, 09:04 PM   #181
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Wheres the video of Stanzi throwing a check down to his RB with 7 seconds left and no timeouts?
A RB who had more than enough time to step out of bounds but chose not to?
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Old 11-16-2011, 09:06 PM   #182
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One of the main reasons that the RB is not able to get out is because he has to reach down for a very low throw. Thus, the decision, which is poor to start with, is complicated by even worse execution with a Plummer-like throw.
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Old 11-16-2011, 09:06 PM   #183
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I'm not being sensitive. What you just did is nothing more than a skewing of data that doesn't accurately represent the kind of QB that Stanzi is.

If you want talk about the cons to Stanzi's play on the field, do it legitimately like OTW and others have been doing on this very thread. What I saw in the video that you posted were some situations that put Stanzi in shitty positions. Some of the plays were Ricky's fault, but a lot of them were not.

Yeah, it's the same treatment that Cassel gets around here (ie "it's not all his fault.") But I'd much rather see if Stanzi can overcome those initial hangups. I know for a fact that Cassel has not and can not and never will. This is as good as he gets.
OTW's post previous to this isn't really fair though either is it? He broke down what he saw in a biased highlight film of a poor team outing in a rain game. Not his fault, he was calling what he saw. Only he stated these things as if they were based on his typical play.
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Old 11-16-2011, 09:06 PM   #184
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One of the main reasons that the RB is not able to get out is because he has to reach down for a very low throw. Thus, the decision, which is poor to start with, is complicated by even worse execution with a Plummer-like throw.
No shit. The fact this is even being defended is laughable. I guess when you've been a fan of a team that's never won shit you hold onto anything you can?
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Old 11-16-2011, 09:07 PM   #185
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Even though I posted it on another board, Ill own up to it.

I wanted to draft Nate in the third round that year.

That kid would kick 65 and 70 yard field goals in pregame (of course they weren't with a rush or anything) and from 60, he would hit most of them from either hash mark.

He was an amazing college kicker.
That was one of my favorite meltdowns when we passed on him and the Chargers took him. I think some of the Iowa fans would've stabbed a guy with a trident to get him. He was definitely promoted as the greatest leg to ever kick a football.
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Old 11-16-2011, 09:07 PM   #186
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It was a poor decision and that was one of the knocks on Stanzi was decision making. He also took a sack earlier in that drive which you can't do.

You trying to make a 5th round pick into Joe Montana is laughable though.
Listen, if you want to discuss something....bring up something to discuss.

Otherwise, and STFD with the dumb shit.
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Old 11-16-2011, 09:07 PM   #187
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Thank you for the unbiased take.
The one thing that might make that really not a bad decision is the speed of the RB vs. the LB.

If Stanzi knows that the RB's speed is far superior to that LB, then he knows that RB can probably get OOB.

If the speed difference is marginal, it's a bad decision.
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OTW's post previous to this isn't really fair though either is it? He broke down what he saw in a biased highlight film of a poor team outing in a rain game.
WTF are you talking about?

I haven't seen said highlight film.
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Listen, if you want to discuss something....bring up something to discuss.

Otherwise, and STFD with the dumb shit.
I think I brought up Stanzi's poor decision making and inaccurate throws in this thread.

I'll say whatever I want use the ignore feature if you don't like it glutton.
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I think it's pretty stupid that we are fighting over a single play.
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The one thing that might make that really not a bad decision is the speed of the RB vs. the LB.

If Stanzi knows that the RB's speed is far superior to that LB, then he knows that RB can probably get OOB.

If the speed difference is marginal, it's a bad decision.
It was a 3rd yard pass with no timeouts. To me the risk outweighs the reward throw it away and live to play another down with 10 or so seconds on the clock.
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The one thing that might make that really not a bad decision is the speed of the RB vs. the LB.

If Stanzi knows that the RB's speed is far superior to that LB, then he knows that RB can probably get OOB.

If the speed difference is marginal, it's a bad decision.
There's no time to think about all of that. Game on the line, clock ticking down? It's survival time. Nothing more, nothing less.

He makes an inexcusable decision.
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It's not just one play Milkman again one of the knocks on Stanzi was decision making. Not sure that's something that can be corrected with coaching.
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It was a 3rd yard pass with no timeouts. To me the risk outweighs the reward throw it away and live to play another down with 10 or so seconds on the clock.
In the big picture, I'd agree with you.

But whose the kicker?
What's his range.

From the original LOS, that is about a 55 yard kick.
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It's not just one play Milkman again one of the knocks on Stanzi was decision making. Not sure that's something that can be corrected with coaching.
I get that, and you may be right.

But, did his decision making improve from his junior season to his senior season?

Decision making is somtimes a product of maturity.
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