Randy Moss released

[KC kid]

nm

[Dante84]

Originally Posted by salame

P.S. I think he will probably be a Colt or Seahawk

Peyton's my QB, Moss is my #1 WR.


I'd bust ten nuts.


But I'd rather him be a Chief.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

This is why you're wrong.

In fact, it's why you're usually wrong.

This has nothing to do with winning a few more regular season games.

It has absolutely everything to do with winning a playoff game and being a true threat to do damage against good teams. Can you imagine how different the Indy game is if Moss is going up for that jump ball instead of Bowe? Don't you think we could've put the Houston game out of reach?

Winning 3 games in January against premier opponents is a very difficult task and it's not something you're going to do with an offense that presents absolutely no threat further downfield than 15 yards. Safeties will crash the box, LBs won't respect the seams, corners will press cover so they can offer better run support.

You cannot afford to be one-dimensional against good teams and this move would help us eliminate that.

It's not about winning regular season games. It's about being relevant in January - a feeling we haven't had in 40 years and something that's not likely to happen with the philosophy you're espousing.

Sorry, but I don't believe we are one receiver away from winning in January. If we were, okay, fine.

What we are is a young team with tremendous character that plays their asses off and wins games by controlling the clock and running the ball down the other team's throats.

I am of the school that douchebaggery is contagious. Any team person knows this. A guy who doesn't give a shit about practice, doesn't give a shit about winning, doesn't give a shit about the game anymore, and gives inconsistent effort on the field is going to rub off in some way. Even if it's from frustration of his teammates or distraction. Or even if it's teaching young kids taht you can get away with that because you have god-given talent. Even slightly. Let's not forget the team is filled with a lot of guys who are young and very impressionable. I also don't know how you think there is any guarantee that Moss is going to care enough about winning or putting the effort to win when it matters most.

In the heat of a run, I dont' want to worry about whether our receiver is going to care enough to play or whether he runs off his mouth and throws his coaching staff under the bus because he didn't like a playcall as he did Childress. I don't want guys like Charles and Flowers and Carr to have to answer week after week how they responded to some comment that Moss made in the media.

It's not worth it. Not at this stage in his career, and not at this stage of the Chiefs' rebuild. He's not a magic bullet.

[oldandslow]

Our old friend JW weighs in

Viking Voodoo wrote:
WhitlockJason Jason Whitlock
Schefter says Moss open 2 returning. Glazer says Vikes players livid w/Chilly. Chilly didn't clear w/bosses = Chilly getting fired, y'all.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Dante84

Chiefs are 29th of 32 in the waiver order.

So you're telling me there's a chance... YEAH!

[the Talking Can]

hilarious bit on espn pregame


Chris Carter talking about how Moss is 'principled' while Jackson basically called him a pussy and looked like he wanted to fight someone....

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Sorry, but I don't believe we are one receiver away from winning in January. If we were, okay, fine.

What we are is a young team with tremendous character that plays their asses off and wins games by controlling the clock and running the ball down the other team's throats.

I am of the school that douchebaggery is contagious. Any team person knows this. A guy who doesn't give a shit about practice, doesn't give a shit about winning, doesn't give a shit about the game anymore, and gives inconsistent effort on the field is going to rub off in some way. Even if it's from frustration of his teammates or distraction. Or even if it's teaching young kids taht you can get away with that because you have god-given talent. Even slightly. Let's not forget the team is filled with a lot of guys who are young and very impressionable. I also don't know how you think there is any guarantee that Moss is going to care enough about winning or putting the effort to win when it matters most.

In the heat of a run, I dont' want to worry about whether our receiver is going to care enough to play or whether he runs off his mouth and throws his coaching staff under the bus because he didn't like a playcall as he did Childress. I don't want guys like Charles and Flowers and Carr to have to answer week after week how they responded to some comment that Moss made in the media.

It's not worth it. Not at this stage in his career, and not at this stage of the Chiefs' rebuild. He's not a magic bullet.

This is just so much warmed over horseshit that I don't know where to start.

Since when did Moss not care about winning or football? Moss has always been a guy that loves winning and loves playing ball. He doesn't always practice well but he's hardly a cancer as his teammates generally speak very positively of him.

And he's a guy that simply doesn't care about the bullshit anymore. Childress is an awful coach that runs an awful organization - Moss said it. The Raiders were an awful organization with no leadership anywhere - Moss said it.

Run a good organization with leaders in place and Moss will play hard for you.

Moss's contributions on the field would go much deeper than just "another receiver". Moss is a force multiplier. Like an A-10 or an Abrams, Moss makes everything you put on the field more effective if only by his mere presence. He'd be a guy that changes the character of the entire Chiefs offense and open up avenues that this team simply doesn't have right now.

Will it guarantee a championship - well of course not. But in a league where parity rules the day, it could absolutely mean a win in the first round. And hell, if it means a win in the first round...what stops it from meaning a win in the 2nd round?

It's a funny league and Moss makes us much more dangerous. If this team can carry a guy that literally sucker-punched his quarterback as a starting D-lineman, why the hell can't it carry Randy Moss?

[salame]

Originally Posted by Dante84

Peyton's my QB, Moss is my #1 WR.


I'd bust ten nuts.


But I'd rather him be a Chief.

I don't think he would work well in our system
he sure as shit doesn't block

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by salame

I don't think he would work well in our system
he sure as shit doesn't block

Neither does Chambers.

Remember - he's not taking Bowe off the field. He's not taking Moeaki off the field.

He's taking Chris Chambers or Terrance Copper off the field. The threat of him running past a corner will have the corner playing back far enough to be just as effective as Chris Chambers throwing a half-hearted block.

We're looking for reasons not to like the guy and ignoring the things he could do for us.

They far outweight his downside.

[salame]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Neither does Chambers.

Remember - he's not taking Bowe off the field. He's not taking Moeaki off the field.

He's taking Chris Chambers or Terrance Copper off the field. The threat of him running past a corner will have the corner playing back far enough to be just as effective as Chris Chambers throwing a half-hearted block.

We're looking for reasons not to like the guy and ignoring the things he could do for us.

They far outweight his downside.

I'm pretty sure Copper is on the field because of the whole blocking thing....
Be serious guys we aren't a good fit for what he want's and he isn't the type of veteran our staff seems to like

[Shag]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Moss hasn't been released and some people in the Vikings organization don't want to release him

There's similar rumblings around local sports radio here. Talk is that this was 100% a Childress decision, and not all of the front office is on the same page.

Would be interesting if the FO decided to fire Childress and keep Moss. Would be a better move for the Vikes, IMHO...

[Rain Man]

Never mind, everybody. nfl.com is now saying that he wasn't cut. At least, not yet. It appears that Childress may be answering to someone upstairs.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...?module=HP_cp2

Vikings players confirmed Monday that coach Brad Childress informed them during a team meeting of his intention to waive wide receiver Randy Moss less than a month after acquiring him in a trade with New England.

NFL Network's Michael Lombardi first reported Moss' release.

Moss has yet to be informed by the team of his release, though he is assuming at this point he will be waived, a source with knowledge of the situation told NFL Network inside Jason La Canfora.

Childress did not tell management of his desire to part with Moss, according to Lombardi, but Childress did tell the team that Moss would be waived. Childress has control over the 53 man roster.

The league has released Monday's waiver wire to authorized personnel, and Moss is not included on it, a source with access to the wire told La Canfora.

The deadline for daily transactions is 4 p.m. The Vikings could still elect to waive Moss later this week. Childress told the team he would do so today, but a source said others in the organization were not of the same mind.

The Vikings acquired Moss, along with a seventh-round pick in 2012, in exchange for a third-round pick in 2011.


"Randy is very sad to find out about being waived by the Vikings this morning," Moss' agent, Joel Segal, said in an e-mail to the Minneapolis Star Tribune. "He has and always will remain fond of the fans in Minnesota. We will let the process of the waiver wire take its course and we will move on from there."

Segal told the Star-Tribune that he already has received calls from the Miami Dolphins and Seattle Seahawks inquiring about Moss.

When Moss is officially waived, he will have 24 hours to pass through waivers. Teams can claim Moss and the remaining $6.4 million base salary on his contract during that period. If Moss is not claimed through waivers, he would become a free agent, but the Vikings would still be on the hook for the remainder of his contract, which expires after the season.

Fox Sports and NFL Network's Jay Glazer reports that Vikings players were taken by surprise by Childress' announcement and are "livid" over the move.

Childress and team officials didn't immediately respond to messages seeking confirmation of the decision. About an hour before the news came out, Childress took 12 consecutive questions from reporters during his regular news conference about Moss, his effort, and his mindset in response to a rant by Moss following Sunday night's loss to the Patriots.

Moss, who was fined $25,000 last week for failing to cooperate with the media and make himself regularly available for interviews, stepped to the podium after the game but announced he wouldn't take any questions. He repeatedly expressed admiration for coach Bill Belichick and his former team, the Patriots, and criticized the Vikings for not taking enough of his game-planning advice.

Moss had only one catch for 8 yards against the Patriots. In four games for the Vikings, he had 13 catches for 174 yards and two touchdowns.

Childress didn't mention the move and said Moss was staying back in the Boston area for a few days to spend time with family. Asked whether he regretted acquiring Moss, the coach said "not at present."


Moss, who was traded away from Minnesota in 2005 after finding his share of trouble and frustrating the organization with his attitude, expressed eagerness to connect with quarterback Brett Favre when he arrived and talked about how much he still loved Vikings fans some 5½ years after his departure.

While his presence opened the field for wide receiver Percy Harvin, who has blossomed into one of the league's most dangerous offensive players, Moss never materialized into the deep threat the Vikings sought when they traded for him. His longest catch was a 37-yarder, and he was only targeted twice against the Patriots.

"I'm definitely down that we lost this game. I didn't expect we'd lose this game," Moss said. "I don't know how many more times I'll be in New England again. But I leave coach Belichick and those guys with a salute: 'I love you guys. I miss you. I'm out."'

Childress said Monday he didn't see Moss' remarks as "incendiary." The closest he came to criticizing him was acknowledging he could've caught a pass that fell incomplete in the end zone while the Patriots were called for pass interference.

"But again, I don't know," Childress said. "He was restricted. If they called pass interference, there had to be some kind of restriction."

Asked whether he felt Moss had been playing hard, Childress said, "He's playing hard when he needs to play hard."

Linebacker Ben Leber said players were surprised by the news. But he didn't sound happy about Moss's post-game remarks.

"It was just, 'Wow,"' Leber said. "Just because it sounded like it was unprompted and sounded like he wanted to get some stuff off his chest. He certainly has every right to do that. I don't think that's the way to do it."

[Thig Lyfe]

They just wanted the 7th round pick.

[MahiMike]

Originally Posted by Dante84

Peyton's my QB, Moss is my #1 WR.


I'd bust ten nuts.


But I'd rather him be a Chief.

Same here. We shoulda went Reggie Wayne. Hopefully he goes to the Rams w/a REAL QB.

[Stinger]

Pull UR 84 Jersey Out......

[Dante84]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

The league has released Monday's waiver wire to authorized personnel, and Moss is not included on it, a source with access to the wire told La Canfora.

...


Segal told the Star-Tribune that he already has received calls from the Miami Dolphins and Seattle Seahawks inquiring about Moss.

This is tampering....?