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Old 12-25-2022, 03:23 PM  
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It seems like the offense has been a lot less dynamic without Hardman. He might be the spark needed going into the playoffs.

I know the accepted narrative here is one that treats Hardman as some sort of JAG. But I really like his freakish athleticism, his playmaking ability, and his unselfishness. He’s still really young and has acted like a kid at times, but I’ve got this nagging feeling that if the light ever comes on he’s gonna be special.

He’s made some really great plays and I love the way he runs in traffic. He doesn’t shift gears. It’s like he’s in variable glide mode.
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Old 12-26-2022, 11:10 AM   #16
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Opposing playoff defenses should be legit terrified at what they’re going to need to prepare for. Andy is basically not allowing there to be ANY tape on what this offense will look like come playoff time.

Adding Hardman and Toney to this offense and not being able to prepare for it will be terrifying.
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Old 12-26-2022, 11:16 AM   #17
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Opposing playoff defenses should be legit terrified at what they’re going to need to prepare for. Andy is basically not allowing there to be ANY tape on what this offense will look like come playoff time.

Adding Hardman and Toney to this offense and not being able to prepare for it will be terrifying.
We say that every year and every year it’s the same ****ing offense in the playoffs except that twirly Rose Bowl parade. Stop fooling yourself into thinking some new wrinkle is going to appear in the playoffs that teams are completely unprepared for.
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Old 12-26-2022, 11:20 AM   #18
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We say that every year and every year it’s the same ****ing offense in the playoffs except that twirly Rose Bowl parade. Stop fooling yourself into thinking some new wrinkle is going to appear in the playoffs that teams are completely unprepared for.

Hah, true enough.

Our playoff offense is incredible, though, generally speaking. I'm not going to look into it right now but I think we average 30+ PPG under Mahomes in the postseason.
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Old 12-26-2022, 11:20 AM   #19
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I wanted hardman to be the guy. He just doesn't have it. I don't know if it is just mental or him not putting in the work. Juju seemed to adjust to what mahomes wants after about 8 games. Toney seems to be getting it as well.

Hardman been here forever and hasn't got it. He had Tyreek and Kelce both as instructors.
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Old 12-26-2022, 11:22 AM   #20
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Hardman is a better version of D-Rob.

Just hasn't delivered anywhere near expectations.
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Old 12-26-2022, 11:23 AM   #21
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On the topic of WR, I Hope Justin Watson is gone after this year.

Guy started off hot and has gone in a coma.
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Old 12-26-2022, 11:33 AM   #22
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Old 12-26-2022, 11:35 AM   #23
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Hardman is a JAG WR but an elite gadget player.
Disagree that he’s elite as a gadget player. I don’t even think he’s the best gadget player on his own team. (Toney)

I’m looking forward to Hardman’s return about as much as I’m looking forward to Clyde’s.
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Old 12-26-2022, 12:21 PM   #26
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Yeah. Hardman is the 2nd-best WR on the team, though I'm not yet ranking Toney due to a small sample size so far.
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Yeah. Hardman is the 2nd-best WR on the team, though I'm not yet ranking Toney due to a small sample size so far.
Fair. And that's where I'm at. I think Toney has unlimited potential. Just needs to stay on the field.
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Disagree that he’s elite as a gadget player. I don’t even think he’s the best gadget player on his own team. (Toney)

I’m looking forward to Hardman’s return about as much as I’m looking forward to Clyde’s.
They are explosive in different ways. Hardman isn’t as shifty as Toney but man his acceleration is off the charts. That makes him an especially dangerous option going into motion and on jet sweeps. And it still makes him a home run option. Ideally they can relegate him to a role where they just use him in spots because he doesn’t do much otherwise. Although the inconsistency of Mvs makes me wonder if he’s any better than hardman as our deep option.

I still like Toney better for the quick hitches because he’s way more maneuverable in short spaces which is what we’ve desperately needed vs teams like cincy
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If the guy was WR 5 or 6, then whatever. But he's getting like 75 percent of the snaps which is ****ing crazy.
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