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**Rain Man** · 01-09-2009, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian

It wouldn't be too difficult to find out if there is a professional bureau in your state. I'd wager you could file a complaint, just like you can with an incompetent land surveyor or engineer.

I may do that, just because he was so unreasonable.

I just don't get it. If someone came to me on a study and said, "Hey, obvious error there. Why don't you fix it so I don't have to tell your client?", I'd fix it. This guy basically dared me to go to his client and point out his ineptitude, and I think he's expecting to get hired again. I will make darn sure he doesn't get hired again on my house, and hopefully not on others as well.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 01-09-2009, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian

Appraisers have to be certified. Its a process that requires quite a few hours of understudy as well as classwork(at least in Iowania).

It sounds to me like the guy is an irresponsible jerkoff or a complete incompetent.
It sounds to me like you've given him ample opportunity to correct the problem and he called down the thunder.

Pool the planet power and flog him mercilessly.

Heck, my company depends on doing quality work. Just today I gave a client a free hour because I didn't feel we accomplished enough. he'll remember that next time he has me come back.

It wouldn't be too difficult to find out if there is a professional bureau in your state. I'd wager you could file a complaint, just like you can with an incompetent engineer.

FYP.

Far more of those clowns than us.

ChiefaRoo · 01-09-2009, 07:20 PM

Generally speaking most people are dumb and/or grossly incompetent. Crucify his dumb ass the best you can.

**Iowanian** · 01-09-2009, 07:40 PM

Maybe its different in other places, but Assessors and Appraisers are not the same thing here. There are appraisers that work with assessors, but they serve different functions.

If they're govt assessors/appraisers, there will be a conference board whose job is to keep them on the up and up...they answer to that board.

if its an indepent appraiser, who values properties as a mercenary for banks....I'd look into his certifications and the organizations that hired him.

He had his chance to make it right. Any honest business man would have corrected the problem asap, given a heartfelt appology for your inconvenience...free of charge for the correction.....to the point the guy brings over 2 large boulders for bRainman's back yard.

Its common business sense.

I guarantee any work I do, and if a customer ever complains about an error or wasn't happy, if its even remotely my fault...I'll fix it, make it right and make them happy.

A small business cannot survive having very many bRainman, INC's rubbing their reputation with a dirty toilet brush for shoddy work.

We should add this to the other 2 companies previously guilty of wrongdoing to the threadstarter and punish them via google for all time.

Cornstock · 01-09-2009, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian

Maybe its different in other places, but Assessors and Appraisers are not the same thing here. There are appraisers that work with assessors, but they serve different functions.

If they're govt assessors/appraisers, there will be a conference board whose job is to keep them on the up and up...they answer to that board.

if its an indepent appraiser, who values properties as a mercenary for banks....I'd look into his certifications and the organizations that hired him.

He had his chance to make it right. Any honest business man would have corrected the problem asap, given a heartfelt appology for your inconvenience...free of charge for the correction.....to the point the guy brings over 2 large boulders for bRainman's back yard.

Its common business sense.

I guarantee any work I do, and if a customer ever complains about an error or wasn't happy, if its even remotely my fault...I'll fix it, make it right and make them happy.

A small business cannot survive having very many bRainman, INC's rubbing their reputation with a dirty toilet brush for shoddy work.

We should add this to the other 2 companies previously guilty of wrongdoing to the threadstarter and punish them via google for all time.

Thats how we do in Iowa

ClevelandBronco · 01-10-2009, 02:59 AM

You gotta ask yourself what an unemployed guy such as, say, Mike Shanahan would pay for that house.

That's the real market price.

StcChief · 01-10-2009, 10:35 AM

They have brought the Rainman rath.... let it rain.

**Rain Man** · 01-14-2009, 01:36 PM

I really do know why some people take guns into large companies and start shooting.

So I've been wrestling with the appraiser and he finally said that he would re-do the appraisal with the proper records. But he said that he's not allowed to because he puts the appraisal into some big computer system, and once he enters the numbers he can't change them. He said that he has to get permission from some appraisal clearinghouse who has to get permission from the lender.

So I contact the lender, and they say, "The appraisal is done." Argue, argue, argue. They say the appraisal is fine, because the appraiser used "an accepted source". THE SOURCE IS WRONG! THE SOURCE IS THE ESTIMATE OF SOME REALTOR TWO DECADES AGO! THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS WRONG! THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS IS WRONG! THE NUMBER OF BATHROOMS IS WRONG! WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!

She then says she can change it, but it may cost extra. Argue, argue, argue. I tell her to let me know so I can throw a screaming fit at someone higher up the ladder (my exact words).

She then says, "Why do you care? The numbers don't matter anyway. All we're doing is confirming that there's a house at that address."

The numbers don't matter? What? So I said, "Fine. Then change the number to $2 million and I'll go away." She said she'd talk to the appraiser.

What is so hard about this? The records are on the Internet. The house has been the same size for 102 years. Why can they not correct their own error without telling me it's going to cost me more money? And if the numbers don't matter, why am I paying money for the stupid appraisal? The whole thing is just a scam and a ripoff. I'll be glad when 2012 comes and all of these people are killed by Mayans.

EyePod · 01-14-2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

I'll be glad when 2012 comes and all of these people are killed by Mayans.

NICE!

**Iowanian** · 01-14-2009, 02:25 PM

I'll be out there next week with 4 other Iow anians if for you want for him to get a visit with whiffle bat....or carry any heavy boulders.

Demonpenz · 01-14-2009, 02:27 PM

That is dumb and it sucks people who are producers get screwed. Keep on fighting the fight

Mark M · 01-14-2009, 02:36 PM

Um ... since when are MLS listings the same as "public records" from a governmental source? The former is just a way for realtors to sell homes to each other, and the latter is an actual gov't document.

Dude should be beaten senseless just for not knowing the difference.

As far as licensing appraisers go, it's state by state. Some are more stringent than others, but regardless, a lot it is, in fact, opinion. Yes, they're supposed to use data such as the pricing of similar homes, etc., but a lot is just an appraiser deciding if he thinks your house is a flaming piece of crap.

With all that being typed, your mortgage company person is actually correct -- they don't use appraisals so much to determine what to give you so much as to just make sure there's a house and it's close in quality, size, etc., to what you say it is. It's not a hard and fast ruling on value or anything.

And with even that being typed, you're doing the correct thing. Bring the Rain down on the dude and make him wish he'd kept that job at Arby's.

MM
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01-09-2009, 07:20 PM	#3
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01-09-2009, 07:40 PM	#4
Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $1668454	Maybe its different in other places, but Assessors and Appraisers are not the same thing here. There are appraisers that work with assessors, but they serve different functions. If they're govt assessors/appraisers, there will be a conference board whose job is to keep them on the up and up...they answer to that board. if its an indepent appraiser, who values properties as a mercenary for banks....I'd look into his certifications and the organizations that hired him. He had his chance to make it right. Any honest business man would have corrected the problem asap, given a heartfelt appology for your inconvenience...free of charge for the correction.....to the point the guy brings over 2 large boulders for bRainman's back yard. Its common business sense. I guarantee any work I do, and if a customer ever complains about an error or wasn't happy, if its even remotely my fault...I'll fix it, make it right and make them happy. A small business cannot survive having very many bRainman, INC's rubbing their reputation with a dirty toilet brush for shoddy work. We should add this to the other 2 companies previously guilty of wrongdoing to the threadstarter and punish them via google for all time.
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01-10-2009, 02:59 AM	#6
ClevelandBronco I'm with the banned. Join Date: Sep 2006 Casino cash: $5658955	You gotta ask yourself what an unemployed guy such as, say, Mike Shanahan would pay for that house. That's the real market price.
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01-10-2009, 10:35 AM	#7
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01-14-2009, 01:36 PM	#8
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-682449 VARSITY	I really do know why some people take guns into large companies and start shooting. So I've been wrestling with the appraiser and he finally said that he would re-do the appraisal with the proper records. But he said that he's not allowed to because he puts the appraisal into some big computer system, and once he enters the numbers he can't change them. He said that he has to get permission from some appraisal clearinghouse who has to get permission from the lender. So I contact the lender, and they say, "The appraisal is done." Argue, argue, argue. They say the appraisal is fine, because the appraiser used "an accepted source". THE SOURCE IS WRONG! THE SOURCE IS THE ESTIMATE OF SOME REALTOR TWO DECADES AGO! THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS WRONG! THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS IS WRONG! THE NUMBER OF BATHROOMS IS WRONG! WRONG, WRONG, WRONG! She then says she can change it, but it may cost extra. Argue, argue, argue. I tell her to let me know so I can throw a screaming fit at someone higher up the ladder (my exact words). She then says, "Why do you care? The numbers don't matter anyway. All we're doing is confirming that there's a house at that address." The numbers don't matter? What? So I said, "Fine. Then change the number to $2 million and I'll go away." She said she'd talk to the appraiser. What is so hard about this? The records are on the Internet. The house has been the same size for 102 years. Why can they not correct their own error without telling me it's going to cost me more money? And if the numbers don't matter, why am I paying money for the stupid appraisal? The whole thing is just a scam and a ripoff. I'll be glad when 2012 comes and all of these people are killed by Mayans. __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
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01-14-2009, 02:25 PM	#10
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01-14-2009, 02:27 PM	#11
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01-14-2009, 02:36 PM	#12
Mark M What time is it? Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: You tell me ... Casino cash: $9884900	Um ... since when are MLS listings the same as "public records" from a governmental source? The former is just a way for realtors to sell homes to each other, and the latter is an actual gov't document. Dude should be beaten senseless just for not knowing the difference. As far as licensing appraisers go, it's state by state. Some are more stringent than others, but regardless, a lot it is, in fact, opinion. Yes, they're supposed to use data such as the pricing of similar homes, etc., but a lot is just an appraiser deciding if he thinks your house is a flaming piece of crap. With all that being typed, your mortgage company person is actually correct -- they don't use appraisals so much to determine what to give you so much as to just make sure there's a house and it's close in quality, size, etc., to what you say it is. It's not a hard and fast ruling on value or anything. And with even that being typed, you're doing the correct thing. Bring the Rain down on the dude and make him wish he'd kept that job at Arby's. MM ~~ __________________ ChiefsPlanet -- n. The place where brilliant minds assemble to willfully pool ignorance with questionable logic in order to reach absurd conclusions.
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