Cassel - yards per pass attempt.

[FAX]

Originally Posted by Laz

... Haley is overwhelmed ...

I think this is a very true statement. Haley is starting to look like somebody takes him out behind the shed every afternoon and beats him with a 2x4.

I believe his heart is in the right place ... he desperately wants to win and has high standards. He did, however, vastly underestimate the demands associated with serving as both HC and OC ... let alone QB coach. Big mistake.

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[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by FAX

I think this is a very true statement. Haley is starting to look like somebody takes him out behind the shed every afternoon and beats him with a 2x4.

I believe his heart is in the right place ... he desperately wants to win and has high standards. He did, however, vastly underestimate the demands associated with serving as both HC and OC ... let alone QB coach. Big mistake.

FAX

This might be another reason why Pioli didn't go big in free agency. Not only are they evaluating existing talent,switching all the coaches and transitioning to new systems on both sides of the LOS but they have a n00b Head Coach who is learning his way during his first year.

I don't think you want some big time veteran free agents coming in and wondering "WTF" when all this transition is going on.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by Laz

This might be another reason why Pioli didn't go big in free agency.

Chiefs blew their wad of cash on Cassel. Plain and simple.

[JD10367]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Chiefs blew their wad of cash on Cassel. Plain and simple.

Huh? Isn't KC, like, $876 million under the cap or something, to the point where they actually got penalized monetarily for being too low-spending?

[DaWolf]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Chiefs blew their wad of cash on Cassel. Plain and simple.

Doubtful. He hadn't signed the contract until the free agency period was well over. So it's not like there was anyone else of significance to sign.

Plus, we're still under the salary floor, so Pioli has to sign some guys to extensions to spend some of that money, otherwise we get fined.

Problem is, who the hell on this team do you sign to an extension?

[FAX]

Originally Posted by Laz

This might be another reason why Pioli didn't go big in free agency. Not only are they evaluating existing talent,switching all the coaches and transitioning to new systems on both sides of the LOS but they have a n00b Head Coach who is learning his way during his first year.

I don't think you want some big time veteran free agents coming in and wondering "WTF" when all this transition is going on.

I've thought of that. I'm not sure that's the reason we didn't aggressively go after better talent this year, though.

My take is that everybody knew that this season was going to be very rough but, unfortunately, they really couldn't evaluate our roster until we had a training camp and some games under our belt.

Planeteers haven't talked about it much, but Pioli has. He's mentioned it several times ... stating that he needs to find guys who have talent but also "respond" to the coaches (meaning Haley), or words to that effect. I don't think they knew which current players were going to "respond", so the strategy was to more or less hold pat until the smoke clears and they can see the picture more clearly.

Of course, that theory gives Pioli the benefit of the doubt that, after watching film, he knew we were horrible.

FAX

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by FAX

I've thought of that. I'm not sure that's the reason we didn't aggressively go after better talent this year, though.

My take is that everybody knew that this season was going to be very rough but, unfortunately, they really couldn't evaluate our roster until we had a training camp and some games under our belt.

Planeteers haven't talked about it much, but Pioli has. He's mentioned it several times ... stating that he needs to find guys who have talent but also "respond" to the coaches (meaning Haley), or words to that effect. I don't think they knew which current players were going to "respond", so the strategy was to more or less hold pat until the smoke clears and they can see the picture more clearly.

Of course, that theory gives Pioli the benefit of the doubt that, after watching film, he knew we were horrible.

FAX

At this point we pretty much have to give Pioli the benefit of the doubt. You might be able to judge a player pretty quickly but a coach takes longer ... a GM even longer still.

We'll have to wait and see what happens next offseason before we even begin to judge Pioli imo.

[Gravedigger]

So lets say you have about 5 guys who can't block 5 other guys who are paid to hit you, ya know hypothetically speaking lets call this game Football, just throwing it out there. Logic would show that you have to get rid of the ball fast, where would you throw your ball in the 2 seconds and 3 to 5 steps that you have? Do you honestly expect the recievers to be much more than 10 yards down field in that matter of time?

The only thing this stat says to me is that our offensive line sucks so Cassel has to do alot of dinking and dunking, screens and slants because he doesnt have the time a Brett Favre has. And since we all knew that our Oline has been terrible for the past 4-5 years this post is bringing nothing new to the board that we haven't been talking about.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by Gravedigger

The only thing this stat says to me is that our offensive line sucks so Cassel has to do alot of dinking and dunking, screens and slants because he doesnt have the time a Brett Favre has.

It's more than that Cassel doesn't have confidence to throw the ball past 10 yards for example look at the end of the 1st half in the raider game he should've taken a shot for the endzone or filed it out of bounds.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

It's more than that Cassel doesn't have confidence to throw the ball past 10 yards for example look at the end of the 1st half in the raider game he should've taken a shot for the endzone or filed it out of bounds.

Yep. I wasn't completely obvious until the Philly game for me, but Cassel looks absolutely frightened out there at times.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Yep. I wasn't completely obvious until the Philly game for me, but Cassel looks absolutely frightened out there at times.

Frightened quarterbacks throw interceptions.

As long as he stands in there and takes hits I don't think he's scared.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Frightened quarterbacks throw interceptions.

As long as he stands in there and takes hits I don't think he's scared.

He's not standing in there though. He's dumping the ball off as quickly as possible.

Len mentioned it at least 3 times on Sunday - Cassel was throwing the ball before the screen had any hope of getting setup.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by Gravedigger

So lets say you have about 5 guys who can't block 5 other guys who are paid to hit you, ya know hypothetically speaking lets call this game Football, just throwing it out there. Logic would show that you have to get rid of the ball fast, where would you throw your ball in the 2 seconds and 3 to 5 steps that you have? Do you honestly expect the recievers to be much more than 10 yards down field in that matter of time?

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At the combine LB's are supposed to have a 2.75 second 20 yard split. I presume KC receivers could cover around 20 yards before the 3 seconds Cassel has to throw the ball.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

We should throw the ball as far as we can on every play for one full game just to get the leagues attention and then the next game make every offensive play a handoff up the middle. Then teams will get frustrated watching game film on us and not know what to expect.

[FAX]

Yards per attempt is a critical statistic. We looked at it once before on here and it emerged as an amazingly important correlator to wins and losses.

Nevertheless, my guess is that, if our wide receivers could catch those slants, we would improve pretty quickly in that regard. Those kinds of plays require good timing, though, and our offensive timing is crap. At the snap, we look a whole lot like an orgy of 11 idiot monkeys playing grab ass.

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