Chiefs Rick Gosselin draft grade: Chiefs get A+ - Page 41

**dirk digler** · 04-25-2010, 08:04 AM

I was pretty down on this draft outside of Berry but maybe I am just stupid.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...s.3f4b050.html

KANSAS CITY CHIEFS GRADE: A+

The Chiefs drafted the NFL defensive rookie of the year in Berry – and a slew of other good players. Arenas was the best returner in the draft, and McCluster will give the AFC matchup problems at both running back and receiver.

philfree · 04-25-2010, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I didn't say anything about "like."

This isn't a popularity contest.

You said I didn't know anything about football.

So I challenged you to post a poll asking who's football takes are more respected, mine, or yours.

I'm guessing that if I don't know anything about football, you'll win in a landslide.

Too bad you're a pussy that hides behind a keyboard, who's unwilling to back up what he says.

Coward.

Your football takes suck!

PhilFree

~mine do too but c'mon man you didn't really go there~

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-25-2010, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

To be fair here, Kindle's injury concerns poped up the weekend of the draft. He needs some sort of microfracture surgery. People knew about Moeaki's issues long before. I don't think Moeaki necessarily fell. I think the late 3rd round is where he was slotted to go all along.

Wrong, Frank.

His injury concerns weren't known to FANS until right before the draft.

And every report I read is that only ONE team believes he needs microfracture surgery.

Kindle missed how many games in college? Moeaki?

Just Passin' By · 04-25-2010, 09:23 PM

This shit gets stupider every year, as more and more people think they should be GMs because they're good at Madden or fantasy football.

Titty Meat · 04-25-2010, 09:23 PM

Wait so the Ciefs draft sucked because the Chiefs reached for Mccluster who was rated like sixty something on gosselins list. The same guy who gave the Chiefs an A? Hmmmmmmmmm

Hootie · 04-25-2010, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

A lot of words just to make excuses.

****ing coward.

make excuses?

You're a ****ing idiot.

There have been very, VERY, VERY few occasions on which my football takes were way off on this website.

VERY FEW

But we could do a poll that featured me versus luv and I would lose...and I'm a bigger slut...

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-25-2010, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

then Asomoah was a value pick, too...

so according to Gosselin we drafted 4 2nd round picks...but we only had 2 2nd round picks! Amazing how that works out.

It's funny that you cite Gosselin's top 100 as reasons why McCluster and Arenas were terrible picks...but then the other two guys we took later were amazing value picks according to that very list...

and that list you hold as such gospel...we had 7 picks in this draft and 5 of them were in Gosselin's top 64...including the #3 overall...

Oh man...

We sure lost that draft!

Damn that Pioli!

I've done nothing but praise the Asomoah pick the entire weekend, you ****ing dolt.

Swing and a miss.

Hootie · 04-25-2010, 09:25 PM

The Chiefs took 5 of Gosselin's top 64 and OTWP is trying to use that list as a reason why the Chiefs lost this draft!

It's comedy.

SenselessChiefsFan · 04-25-2010, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

We weren't talking about Moeaki, now were we?

With that said, Moeaki was a value pick. My issue with him is that he can't have an impact if he's injured, and that we traded up to get him when there was no way in hell the 7 teams in front of us were going to take him. And that we've spent 4 picks on 2 TE's in the past two drafts.

Moeaki fell for the same reasons Kindle fell - injury concerns.

Funny how no one wanted Kindle because of injury concerns, but Moeaki's a ****ing steal.

Reading is fundamental, ****hole.

Kindle would have been a high second round pick. At least one team thinks Kindle will need micro fracture surgery. That could end his career. Kindle also has a maturity issue.

Now, without the knee problems, I would have been for taking him despite the maturity concerns. I think he is a young kid and he will mature.

But, Moeaki does not have an injury that threatens his career. Do you see the difference? Yes, he has been banged up, so maybe you get 10 games a season out of him.... but he isn't facing a problem that could end his career.

Hootie · 04-25-2010, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I've done nothing but praise the Asomoah pick the entire weekend, you ****ing dolt.

Swing and a miss.

wow you really danced around that point...

5 picks within his top 64 and you're using it to reference why the Chiefs had a bad draft...

That was the point...

and everyone loved the Asomoah pick...because it was a great ****ing pick! Just like the 3 picks before him...

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-25-2010, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Basically Baltimore, Pittsburgh and Indy draft really well each year.

I think that Pittsburgh fans would disagree, considering the fact that their offensive line is in shambles, their ILB's have sucked ass for a while (and have been covered by their OLB's), they've taken receiver after receiver after receiver trying to fill a void and when they finally did, they traded him for a 5th.

This year, Pittsburgh took THREE ILB's and two offensive lineman. Urbik from last year has been awful.

As for Indy, Ugoh was a disaster. It's really difficult to say if Peyton Manning is the reason for their offensive success or not. I guarantee that if Garcon, Collier and company played for the Chiefs in 2009, their numbers wouldn't be even close to what they've been.

Baltimore wins the draft every year at this point in time, yet hasn't been to the Super Bowl since after the 1999 season.

Something's amiss with their evaluation process.

Hootie · 04-25-2010, 09:28 PM

you know the only thing I'm looking forward to right now?

The fact Mecca, Hamas and IF WE'RE LUCKY OTWP should be leaving the site now for a month or two...maybe three if we're lucky...

So that's good.

**The Bad Guy** · 04-25-2010, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Wrong, Frank.

His injury concerns weren't known to FANS until right before the draft.

And every report I read is that only ONE team believes he needs microfracture surgery.

Kindle missed how many games in college? Moeaki?

It's not an issue about him missing games in college. It's an issue of the problem he obviously currently has that threw up a red flag for him to slide that bad. Why else would he slide like that?

Sirius NFL Radio guys, all of them, had him firmly in the top 25.

Hootie · 04-25-2010, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think that Pittsburgh fans would disagree, considering the fact that their offensive line is in shambles, their ILB's have sucked ass for a while (and have been covered by their OLB's), they've taken receiver after receiver after receiver trying to fill a void and when they finally did, they traded him for a 5th.

This year, Pittsburgh took THREE ILB's and two offensive lineman. Urbik from last year has been awful.

As for Indy, Ugoh was a disaster. It's really difficult to say if Peyton Manning is the reason for their offensive success or not. I guarantee that if Garcon, Collier and company played for the Chiefs in 2009, their numbers wouldn't be even close to what they've been.

Baltimore wins the draft every year at this point in time, yet hasn't been to the Super Bowl since after the 1999 season.

Something's amiss with their evaluation process.

Pertaining to the point you made about Indy...

Yep. That's what I've said all along...

Peyton Manning makes everyone on the offense better...and it's simply an interchangeable offense as long as #18 is there...

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-25-2010, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

The Chiefs took 5 of Gosselin's top 64 and OTWP is trying to use that list as a reason why the Chiefs lost this draft!

It's comedy.

No, I'm not, jackhole.

Someone asked if any respected pundit had McCluster in the top 40, or Arenas in the Top 50.

I posted Gosselin, which is a solid a reference as you'll get on the web.

Both were rated 15-20 spots higher than they were taken.

If you could read, or would choose to read, you'd already know that I'm not a fan of the draft because they chose role players over starters at positions of desperate need.

Slot WR, TE and KR aren't as important as ILB and pass rushers, IMO. And the board fell perfectly to fill those desperate needs without reaching. We passed. I'm not a fan. The End.

**doomy3** · 04-25-2010, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think that Pittsburgh fans would disagree, considering the fact that their offensive line is in shambles, their ILB's have sucked ass for a while (and have been covered by their OLB's), they've taken receiver after receiver after receiver trying to fill a void and when they finally did, they traded him for a 5th.

This year, Pittsburgh took THREE ILB's and two offensive lineman. Urbik from last year has been awful.

As for Indy, Ugoh was a disaster. It's really difficult to say if Peyton Manning is the reason for their offensive success or not. I guarantee that if Garcon, Collier and company played for the Chiefs in 2009, their numbers wouldn't be even close to what they've been.

Baltimore wins the draft every year at this point in time, yet hasn't been to the Super Bowl since after the 1999 season.

Something's amiss with their evaluation process.

This is a solid post.

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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	The Chiefs took 5 of Gosselin's top 64 and OTWP is trying to use that list as a reason why the Chiefs lost this draft! It's comedy.
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	you know the only thing I'm looking forward to right now? The fact Mecca, Hamas and IF WE'RE LUCKY OTWP should be leaving the site now for a month or two...maybe three if we're lucky... So that's good.
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