Brian Flores suing the NFL

[Sassy Squatch]

Oh wow, Brian Flores suing the NFL and NY Giants, alleging racism in hiring. Includes private texts from Bill Belichick https://t.co/4FVAlelLQU

— Alex Weprin (@alexweprin) February 1, 2022

Flores' suit includes texts from Bill Belichick that appear to show him congratulating him on getting the Giants job, mistakenly believing he was texting Brian Daboll. This was before Flores' interview with the Giants took place.

— Alex Weprin (@alexweprin) February 1, 2022

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Less than half of coaches hired since 2020 came from qb coaching. There has been just as much a trend toward power running and defense. It’s why guys like Arthur smith and Campbell were hired. We’ve seen plenty of defensive guys, special teams and TEs background coaches move up the ranks. Black coaches who are well represented in these areas are not getting nearly as many opportunities either.

Again, we’re not talking about 50/50 representation. We’re talking 1/32 on a predominantly black demographic league. You think that’s entirely explained a way by white qbs? I get that the reason behind this is complex and not as sinister as some make it to be. But how can anyone dispute that something feels very off about that?

I’m not going to continue arguing with you when on one hand you say it’s not racism, but on the other you are clearly implying that it is.

Honestly, what the **** are you even arguing here?

You’re talking out of both sides of your mouth and making little to no sense because of it.

Dan Campbell came form NO with Detroit’s black GM. Why don’t you ask him about that? While you’re at it, ask Poles and Kwesi why they didn’t hire black coaches. I’d love to hear the answer

Arthur Smith was an OC in Tennessee and called the plays. That was 100% HIS offense. He still fits the trend, he’s not against the grain at all.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Chitownchiefsfan

At this point I don't know who is the bigger rerun. You or all of us for arguing with you.

Oh, it's definitely you guys.

I'm getting paid to sit here and do this.

$winning$

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by RunKC

If EB isn’t getting hired bc of optics due to his past, then other white coaches shouldn’t be hired in similar situations.

Especially in todays political climate

Unless you can find more black billionaires, this is always going to happen. People tend to hire people like them. Same views, same upbringing, same hobbies, same values. It's not even intentional.

With that said, there is hiring inequity everywhere. Short people, ugly people, introverted people are disproportionately not promoted and passed up by people of less merit & quality work product. It's interesting how we have no groups who come to their attention.

Tell you what, lets fire Andy Reid and give EB the reigns. We'll just go Andy Reid is too white and we want a black guy to have the gig.

[Shields68]

Originally Posted by RunKC

If EB isn’t getting hired bc of optics due to his past, then other white coaches shouldn’t be hired in similar situations.

Especially in todays political climate

True. The problem with the lawsuit and the above comparison is that there is not one employer hiring 32 positions. You really need to look at each franchise and who they considered and ultimately hired. A bad optic hire might be a lot more important to a woke city than a mid west team. If Reid stepped down, team decided to promote EB I doubt a protest of that hire on optics goes anywhere. So saying team X still hired so and so with a DUI or this begs the question as to how their decision was made v other teams.

Like the lawsuit compares the firing of Wilkes to the Cards retaining Klingsbury simply based on wins and losses. That is just stupid. More goes into coaching decisions then simple wins and losses.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

You start the ****ing poll then, you care so ****ing much.

lol, you know you'd lose.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

For calling a play with a route that isn't in the end zone?

****, do we KNOW that's actually what happened, or is that the story they went with after the fact?

What the **** are you talking about? There was a route in the end zone.

JFC you’re reeruned.

And we know because Andy and Pat told us dumbass.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I’m not going to continue arguing with you when on one hand you say it’s not racism, but on the other you are clearly implying that it is.

Honestly, what the **** are you when arguing here?

You’re talking out of both sides of your mouth and making little to no sense because of it.

Dan Campbell came form NO with Detroit’s black GM. Why don’t you ask him about that? While you’re at it, ask Poles and Kwesi why they didn’t hire black coaches. I’d love to hear the answer.

Why does that have to be racism? I never said it was. I highly doubt GMs are ruling black coaches out because they’re black. But for whatever reason these guys aren’t advancing in the pipeline and I highly doubt it’s because, as you said, they don’t like to teach. Certainly isn’t about talent. So why is this happening? You can explain some of it away but you can’t explain 31/32. That is way beyond a simple margin of error.

[Shields68]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

That is the extreme end. The more reasonable end is recognizing that 1/32 is stunningly low given the demographics.

Guessing I am just looking at what his class action is asking for and yes it seems pretty extreme. But it would not be surprising that due to wokeness the NFL has to concede some to make this go away if the court does not toss it early. IF a minority group is able to come up 3 billion of the 4 billion the Broncos are expected to sell, does the NFL find away to make it happen?

[The Franchise]

Why the **** are people arguing about the game in here? Get that shit out of here damnt. It confuses Marcellus.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

WHAT ABOUT BRIBERY TO INFLUENCE GAME RESULTS??? You're seriously Ok with that folks?

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Why does that have to be racism? I never said it was. I highly doubt GMs are ruling black coaches out because they’re black. But for whatever reason these guys aren’t advancing in the pipeline and I highly doubt it’s because, as you said, they don’t like to teach. Certainly isn’t about talent. So why is this happening? You can explain some of it away but you can’t explain 31/32. That is way beyond a simple margin of error.

JFC.

There are no “guys” plural that “aren’t advancing in the pipeline”. There’s EB. That’s it. Every other name you came up with is a very young up and coming coach that has not in any way been treated unfairly. One would already have a job if it weren’t for other demands from his side (Leftwitch).

Let’s get specific here. What organizations do you feel are refusing to hire black coaches? Let’s start there, then we’ll talk more.

[Rainbarrel]

Dee Ford hate is calming

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by staylor26

JFC.

There are no “guys” plural that “aren’t advancing in the pipeline”. There’s EB. That’s it. Every other name you came up with is a very young up and coming coach that has not in any way been treated unfairly. One would already have a job if it weren’t for other demands from his side (Leftwitch).

Let’s get specific here. What organizations do you feel are refusing to hire black coaches? Let’s start there, then we’ll talk more.

Giants but that’s just my opinion.

No I don’t have hard evidence other than what it just looks like.

[Shields68]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Why does that have to be racism? I never said it was. I highly doubt GMs are ruling black coaches out because they’re black. But for whatever reason these guys aren’t advancing in the pipeline and I highly doubt it’s because, as you said, they don’t like to teach. Certainly isn’t about talent. So why is this happening? You can explain some of it away but you can’t explain 31/32. That is way beyond a simple margin of error.

Yet just 3 years ago there was 7 black head coaches. Which one could say was well over the margin of error if your going by population.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

For calling a play with a route that isn't in the end zone?

****, do we KNOW that's actually what happened, or is that the story they went with after the fact?

Do you have any idea how play design works?