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Old 02-27-2020, 10:28 AM  
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Old 02-27-2020, 02:36 PM   #61
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Now you're being willfully stupid.
What exactly did I say that isn’t true?

Can they not get hurt too? Can they not bust?

You act like the risk doesn’t go both ways when it does. I’m not saying there isn’t risk in re-signing Jones.
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Old 02-27-2020, 02:42 PM   #62
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Now you're being willfully stupid.
Staylor is going full reerun.

MVPat was worth an estimated 5.5 wins last year.

Jones (not on list), less than 1.1.

My guess: 2020 R1 pick plus 3rd plus 2-3 FAs combined win shares > Jones' win share.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...ffense-defense
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Old 02-27-2020, 02:47 PM   #63
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I love Chris Jones, but if we trade him I won’t be mad. We lost Ford and Houston last year and every media analyst said “how they gonna replace that?!”.

I trust Veach. He’s earned it.
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Old 02-27-2020, 02:47 PM   #64
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Chris Jones is on the Herd right now, he seems to be a bit down. Probably irritated with the franchise tag shit that broke today
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Old 02-27-2020, 02:48 PM   #65
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Staylor is going full reerun.

MVPat was worth an estimated 5.5 wins last year.

Jones (not on list), less than 1.1.

My guess: 2020 R1 pick plus 3rd plus 2-3 FAs combined win shares > Jones' win share.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...ffense-defense
"Win share leaders" Dafuq?

This isn't baseball. What an arbitrary, crap stat.

Anyway, i'll always favor signing our own home grown players who've earned it.

I'm not diggin' the player Carousel that some of you prefer.
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Old 02-27-2020, 02:55 PM   #66
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I think LDT and Sorensen are gone and I don't expect Sammy to take a pay cut. Maybe I'm wrong but.. but could see them getting rid of Wilson (i believe its Wilson) as well. Time's Ours podcast had a list of 5 players they could cut to have plenty of money to keep Chris Jones and not cut off their nose to spite their face.

Give me 3 stars on offense and 3 on defense and we are good IMO.

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Jones, Clark, Mathieu
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I think Veach will do what's best for the team... Period. He has given me no reason not to trust his decisions. I would love to keep Jones, I would also love to have good talent on D and also protecting Mahomes. Players will want to play for the Chiefs at a reasonable discount knowing they have a chance at a ring each year, hopefully Jones will be willing to take a discount that allows him to stay. We can't afford him at the price some team will pay to have him and we should get value if this end up being the case. Sucks, but it's smart business.
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He contributed sure but to say we don't win the SB without him is just your opinion. You realize that right?
It's true. He should have been co-MVP.
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Staylor is going full reerun.

MVPat was worth an estimated 5.5 wins last year.

Jones (not on list), less than 1.1.

My guess: 2020 R1 pick plus 3rd plus 2-3 FAs combined win shares > Jones' win share.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...ffense-defense
In no way was I saying that Jones’ value was close to Pat’s. Nor would he be paid like it.

I’m not going full reerun, you just missed the point entirely.

Jones is a great player and is young/ascending. He’s the second best interior pass rusher in the league and those guys are just as valuable as anything outside of a QB. That’s objective reasoning just like it is for Pat.

I get so much shit for calling you guys idiots, but your reading comprehension continually suggests I’m right. I often find myself having to explain things over and over on here when I’ve said it clearly before. It’s pathetic.
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I feel the exact same way, but in the other direction. If you wanna tag and re-sign Jones, fine. I get it, I wouldn't necessarily do it but they have more info on it than we do.

But let's not white wash away how restricting that will be toward having a complete team.
If the goal is having a complete team, you probably shouldn't sign Mahomes to a monster deal either.
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If the goal is having a complete team, you probably shouldn't sign Mahomes to a monster deal either.
Yeah. And why can’t we expect Veach to keep getting these good players on rookie contracts?

Buttkicker, Ward, Ragland, Erving, Ogbah, Rankin, Nnandi, Hardman, Thornhill, Saunders.

It’s like people don’t believe in Veach even though he’s proven it
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