Peyton vs. Perfection (Denver vs KC breakdown) MMQB

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by MileHighFish

I hope not but that's what I have been hearing. Know it's just talk at this point but would make some sense depending on how much pressure KC is able to put on Manning. Denver won't sacrifice Manning's health for a couple 8 yard slant routes. It will be interesting to see what they do as I believe they (Denver) has to be throwing a few wrinkles into the offense this week to slow the KC pass rush. Maybe it will be "ground and pound"?

They'll definitely mix things up with some looks that we haven't seen really since the beginning of the season and some new ones. That's what I like about the play calling. But again, Welker won't have a reduced role.

I think they keep Moreno and someone else back there to pass protect with Thomas, Thomas, Decker and Welker set up to work their magic.

Tough to cover, esp with Moreno dropping down for the quick dump pass in case of emergency. They'll have plenty of variations to work with on Sunday night.

They try to set the tone with the ground game, but their bread is buttered with the options in that passing attack. Not to mention, all the cheating and picking... how can they be stopped?

[Red Dawg]

[QUOTE=Mile High Mania;10186849]They'll definitely mix things up with some looks that we haven't seen really since the beginning of the season and some new ones. That's what I like about the play calling. But again, Welker won't have a reduced role.

I think they keep Moreno and someone else back there to pass protect with Thomas, Thomas, Decker and Welker set up to work their magic.

Tough to cover, esp with Moreno dropping down for the quick dump pass in case of emergency. They'll have plenty of variations to work with on Sunday night.

They try to set the tone with the ground game, but their bread is buttered with the options in that passing attack. Not to mention, all the cheating and picking... how can they be stopped?[/QUOTE

Stopped? By putting Manning on his but like Mathis did and jamming the wr's at the line to throw off the timing with tight coverage. They can be stopped.

By planting Manning ass in the ground. Jamming the wr's at the line throwing off the timing. Denver fans act like Manning has never lost a game. Indy did beat you. What was the reason? Just a fluke? Or did they just man up a beat you?

[duncan_idaho]

I'm still trying to get my head around why people think the Chiefs will be able to run with ease on Denver.

The Broncos have a very good run defense. The Chiefs have a slightly-better-than-mediocre run offense (by a very thin margin, heavily propped by Alex Smith's rushing stats).

Alex Smith is going to have to make plays in this game for the Chiefs to score enough to be in it. Some of those can be with his legs, but he's going to be much more aggressive about making plays than he has been for most of this season.

[Molitoth]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I'm still trying to get my head around why people think the Chiefs will be able to run with ease on Denver.

Homers will be homers.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I'm still trying to get my head around why people think the Chiefs will be able to run with ease on Denver.

The Broncos have a very good run defense. The Chiefs have a slightly-better-than-mediocre run offense (by a very thin margin, heavily propped by Alex Smith's rushing stats).

Alex Smith is going to have to make plays in this game for the Chiefs to score enough to be in it. Some of those can be with his legs, but he's going to be much more aggressive about making plays than he has been for most of this season.

Denver has played 3 teams with a decent rushing offense. The Eagles put 166 yards on them (40 by Vick which sounds familiar), the Redskins ran for over 100 without anything from RGII and they kept the Raiders in check.

Denver has given up 9 rushing TD's, KC has given up 2.

There are different influences in all these things obviously but something tells me their rush defense isn't as good as the stats look just like I don't think ours is as bad as it looks on the surface.

[Molitoth]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Denver has played 1 team with a decent rushing offense. The Eagles put 166 yards on them. (40 by Vick). Sounds familiar.

Washington's RB's went over 100 on them.

Their rush defense is in part due to who they have played.

So basically the same logic used in the statements that say the chiefs are only a product of who they have played.... bad teams and backup QB's.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Molitoth

So basically the same logic used in the statements that say the chiefs are only a product of who they have played.... bad teams and backup QB's.

Yea, they are both true to some extent.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Alex Smith is going to have to make plays in this game for the Chiefs to score enough to be in it. Some of those can be with his legs, but he's going to be much more aggressive about making plays than he has been for most of this season.

Considering that the Colts and the Chargers run the same exact Rex Ryan inspired 3-4 defense with far less talent, the Broncos will need to be far more careful with the ball. That alone will make for a much lower scoring game than usual for the Broncos.

The Colts shut down Manning in the first half of their contest and the Chargers just shut him out in the second half. The Chiefs have the blueprint, scheme and players to limit their scoring opportunities.

I don't expect Smith to make huge, big chunk plays in snow and 20 degree weather. I expect to see the same plodding and methodical offense we've seen over the course of the first nine games.

Expecting them to open up the offense, on the road, at night, in 20 degree weather, is folly.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Considering that the Colts and the Chargers run the same exact Rex Ryan inspired 3-4 defense with far less talent, the Broncos will need to be far more careful with the ball. That alone will make for a much lower scoring game than usual for the Broncos.

The Colts shut down Manning in the first half of their contest and the Chargers just shut him out in the second half. The Chiefs have the blueprint, scheme and players to limit their scoring opportunities.

I don't expect Smith to make huge, big chunk plays in snow and 20 degree weather. I expect to see the same plodding and methodical offense we've seen over the course of the first nine games.

Expecting them to open up the offense, on the road, at night, in 20 degree weather, is folly.

WTF?

You have the blueprint... (vader voice) "Nooooooooooooooooooo"

KC's offense is pretty spare to fair on the road this season. Denver's "blueprint" for KC, contain Charles while forcing Smith to be a QB. Then offensively, keep Manning upright.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

WTF?

You have the blueprint... (vader voice) "Nooooooooooooooooooo"

KC's offense is pretty spare to fair on the road this season. Denver's "blueprint" for KC, contain Charles while forcing Smith to be a QB. Then offensively, keep Manning upright.

The problem is that EVERY team has tried that this year. To a certain extent, ANDY REID has tried that (terribly unbalanced run vs. pass).

We're still undefeated.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

The problem is that EVERY team has tried that this year. To a certain extent, ANDY REID has tried that (terribly unbalanced run vs. pass).

We're still undefeated.

Right and we've covered this... if KC can maintain the pace with the D/ST scoring TDs, then yeah - it will all work out.

KC's offense has been less than impressive in their 4 road games... you call it "a hallmark", I call it something else. But, it is what it is and if it can hold up, well then they'll do great things.

I believe that while KC's defense is salivating at the notion of shutting down the vaunted Manning offense... Denver's defense is relishing in the fact that the Chiefs are coming to town just as much.

[booger]

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[gblowfish]

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[Pablo]

If the WR's can work on getting 10-15 yards of separation constantly, I think we'll see Smith open this thing up!

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Pablo

If the WR's can work on getting 10-15 yards of separation constantly, I think we'll see Smith open this thing up!

Good thing we are facing the godawful Denver secondary