Cities to move to...

[Jerm]

So I've lived in MO all my life and the wife and I are contemplating moving next year outside of the state...just wanted to get some thoughts from those who have lived elsewhere besides KCMO or thought about it too.

I'm kinda open to anywhere but I've had a few people tell me that out west is the way to go...heard Boulder, Salt Lake City, and Reno are all nice. Actually had a buddy tell me Wisconsin (Madison specifically) is nice too.

So if any of you were going to move elsewhere where would you suggest?

[Coochie liquor]

Originally Posted by fairladyZ

do you have kids? What kind of career?

Boise, Idaho. If you can get on the out skirts it's a great place to live. It's in the top 5 in the nation for raising a family. People are polite, not alot of crime. Lots of stuff outdoors to do and only about 45 minutes from being deep into forrest areas. Cost of living isn't terribly high. It's about average for what salaries are around here. It's a little smaller than SLC and Portland so it has a lot more of a home town feel then those but still feels big. I HATE SLC and portland is a cool town but dirty. Reno is Meh but it's nevada. 99% of Nevada is just blah. Spokane is referred to as Spo-compton. It's 70% s***hole. Seattle is outrageous to live. Don't know about Colorado so can't comment. Arizona most parts are nice but it's hot if you can get past that.

If your thinking mountainy and out west though i would most definitely look into Boise, Idaho. I've been here my whole life and although locals always complain and want out of here everyone always comes back. It's just to good here unfortunately

For some reason when I think Boise, I think population 1500. Why is that?? How many people DO live in Boise??

[fairladyZ]

in the valley here there is about 1.2 million people. The city limits of boise and immediate suburbs there is probably 600,000+

[blaise]

Frisco Texas area is booming. Jobs, inexpensive housing, great schools, the Cowboys are moving their training facilities here. There's an MLS team, a minor league baseball team, and you can go into the city and see the Mavs, Stars, Rangers and Cowboys if you want to.

[SDChiefs]

Originally Posted by lewdog

You either hate it or you love it because the weather is on the extreme obviously. 4 super hot months with very little break and 8 months of beautiful weather. That sold me. And the hot days you find a pool or stay inside. It does nothing to mess up my commute like snow though!

Tons to do and all 4 professional teams. Very low cost of living. It doesn't have a big city feel because it is so spread out so traffic is pretty good most of the time. You do have to get used to driving though and the miles on your car add up quick. People seem to kind of stick to themselves which you can see as either good or bad.

But we love it here and are not leaving for a very long time.

Low cost of living? its everybit as expensive as San Diego.

[Canofbier]

Originally Posted by Jerm

Thanks! Wife is pushing for Vegas...I love it out there but I just wonder about raising our daughter (10 months old) out there.

Look on the bright side: in 17 years and 2 months, she'll have no problems finding work!

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by SDChiefs

Low cost of living? its everybit as expensive as San Diego.

Phoenix? Are you high?


Median home price San Diego is near 450k. Phoenix is under 200k.

Hell, it's even cheaper to live here than Montana.

Nice try though.

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by Canofbier

Look on the bright side: in 17 years and 2 months, she'll have no problems finding work!

Ohhhh no....

[SDChiefs]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Phoenix? Are you high?


Median home price San Diego is near 450k. Phoenix is under 200k.

Hell, it's even cheaper to live here than Montana.

Nice try though.

I want what youre smoking. median house in SD is 350 and its close to that in phoenix. you cant find a shack there for under 200k. When i was looking for apts there 8 years ago they were 1400 a month. Care to guess what they are here? about 1400 a month. Not to mention i lived in az. The only things cheaper are gas and housing. everything else is more expensive. Food, beer, smokes, entertainment. 20 bucks for a movie ticket. 12 here.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by SDChiefs

I want what youre smoking. median house in SD is 350 and its close to that in phoenix. you cant find a shack there for under 200k. When i was looking for apts there 8 years ago they were 1400 a month. Care to guess what they are here? about 1400 a month.

http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living...=Phoenix%2C+AZ

You would need around 3,539.00$ in Phoenix, AZ to maintain the same standard of life that you can have with 4,400.00$ in San Diego, CA

It is not even close to that for median home price in Phoenix. We live in a very nice neighborhood, 2300 sq/ft house with a pool and our mortgage is under 1200/month.

Our friends live in Scottsdale in a 3b/2b house that cost under 250k.

Why do you think so many people retire here....because it's cheap!

Um so yea, you won't find that in San Diego. Your facts are wrong.

[a pp roach]

Johannesburg, South Africa. Never been, but just an idea.

[Bewbies]

Go South, or into the mountains. Little to no winter is awesome.

[SDChiefs]

Originally Posted by lewdog

http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living...=Phoenix%2C+AZ

You would need around 3,539.00$ in Phoenix, AZ to maintain the same standard of life that you can have with 4,400.00$ in San Diego, CA

It is not even close to that for median home price in Phoenix. We live in a very nice neighborhood, 2300 sq/ft house with a pool and our mortgage is under 1200/month.

Our friends live in Scottsdale in a 3b/2b house that cost under 250k.

Why do you think so many people retire here....because it's cheap!

Um so yea, you won't find that in San Diego. Your facts are wrong.

I call bs. my dad was paying more than that in Tucson and phoenix is twice as expensive. People retire there because of the percieved dry heat. When in actuallity its humid as hell during the summer. A lot of snowbirds come this way too. And my facts are life experience. ive lived out there. you couldnt pay me enough to do it again. but i did once.

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by a pp roach

Johannesburg, South Africa. Never been, but just an idea.

Tokyo is my pipe dream lol....

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by SDChiefs

I call bs. my dad was paying more than that in Tucson and phoenix is twice as expensive. People retire there because of the percieved dry heat. When in actuallity its humid as hell during the summer. A lot of snowbirds come this way too. And my facts are life experience. ive lived out there. you couldnt pay me enough to do it again. but i did once.

You're calling BS on my mortgage payment?! Ok there buddy. I've got no reason to lie and I researched living in SD before moving here. It's WAY more expensive.

Net cost of living with 100 being the US average. Anything below 100 is lower cost of living and anything above is high cost of living.

San Diego 164
Phoenix 99

http://www.bestplaces.net/cost_of_li...rnia/san_diego

http://www.bestplaces.net/cost_of_li...rizona/phoenix


People talk about San Diego being expensive all the time. I've never heard anyone mention Phoenix being equal to San Diego in cost of living until today...and there's probably a reason for that because it simply isn't true.

Keep relying on life experience from years ago, instead of the facts from those who live here now and have learned to read research.

[VAChief]

Originally Posted by Jerm

Yeah if I move, I was thinking more coastal or out west near mountains...

I live just outside of Charlottesville, VA. My house sits at the base of the Blue Ridge, and I can drive to the beach in less than 3 hours. Not as cheap to live as KC, but property taxes are much lower and the state income tax is virtually nothing if you own your own home and have normal deductions.

http://www.visitcharlottesville.org/