Chiefs Chiefs fans who want less of Alex Smith may get their wish after 2016 - Page 6

oaklandhater · 10-23-2015, 10:57 AM

http://www.scout.com/nfl/chiefs/stor...pot-with-smith

SEAN KEELER
Yesterday at 7:14 PM
Kansas City faithful want a divorce from their struggling signal-caller. But that signal-caller has a contract that doesn’t get (ahem) ‘team-friendly’ until AFTER next fall.

Look we get it, we get it: You want a divorce. Now. Yesterday, if possible.
You saw the wounded duck that left Alex Smith’s arm in the Twin Cities during a fourth-quarter comeback that fell short. And speaking of falling short, there was No. 11’s next offering. Mercy.
It may not seem conceivable, cruel even, for Kansas City Chiefs fans to get hammered with any more undesirable news at the moment. Not after 1-5 and a campaign that looks completely off the rails. Not after a freak injury ended Jamaal Charles’ season before he could try and save it. Not after Jeremy Maclin, the club’s only front-line veteran wide receiver, stuck in limbo as he recovers from a concussion.
Well, here’s some gruel to go with the cruel, baby: $7.1 million.
As in, that’s the cap hit the Chiefs would take by cutting Smith in 2016.
At least according to the fun little calculator provided by the folks over at OverTheCap.com, who list the dead money owed to the Chiefs’ quarterback at staggering $24.9 million as of next year. (Current dead money: an even more staggering $40.4 million.)
“Dead money,” in layman’s terms, is money from a player’s contract that continues to count against a team’s salary cap after said player is no longer on the roster. It’s not just a barometer of a particular team’s investment — it’s a benchmark of just how hard it could be to excise that player (and contract) immediately from the program.
The Chiefs have three players who are projected to account for more than $10 million in dead money in 2016, if cut: Smith, outside linebacker Justin Houston ($16.4 million) and wideout Jeremy Maclin ($19.35 million). In a salary-cap universe, long-term, big-money investments are precious. And, for better or worse, those are the three horses general manager John Dorsey has hitched his wagon to for at least the next 15 months. A June 1 cut of the Chiefs’ signal-caller would actually add $100,000 to the 2016 cap but still would leave $17.7 million in dead money.
To put it another way: In the short term, you’re stuck with him, kids.
So, yes, you could draft his replacement next spring. But instead of the wanderlust for, say, current Cal quarterback Jared Goff — a tall, smart California kid (not unlike Smith) whose college stats aren’t exactly hurt by playing in a Mike Leach-style passing system — maybe the Chiefs should invest a first round pick next spring by upgrading the toys Smith is going to be able to play with. Such as, say, left tackle. Or a valid No. 2 receiver. Or insurance/cover for either Charles or tight end Travis Kelce.
If the first six weeks have proven anything, it’s that No. 11 needs the help. And that the shopping list has rarely been longer.

Mr. Laz · 10-23-2015, 02:07 PM

Well i'm glad i could give SEAN KEELER the info for his article.

Eleazar · 10-23-2015, 02:13 PM

I'm not sure we couldn't trade him. There will certainly be a QB poor team this offseason. Someone traded for Matt Cassel this year.

Is it possible we could basically give him away for a 7th? That a team could have him just for assuming the contract?

(Not that Andy will give up on his guy yet.)

Beef Supreme · 10-23-2015, 02:14 PM

We can get less of Alex Smith immediately. Just gotta quit watching this shit.

Mr. Laz · 10-23-2015, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise

I'm not sure we couldn't trade him. There will certainly be a QB poor team this offseason. Someone traded for Matt Cassel this year.

Is it possible we could basically give him away for a 7th? That a team could have him just for assuming the contract?

(Not that Andy will give up on his guy yet.)

big dead money and/or cap hit if we do anything with him until after 2016

Just draft your young guy and keep Smith around to help for a season, then move on.

Smith can be our Chase Daniel for a year.

**The Franchise** · 10-23-2015, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

big dead money and/or cap hit if we do anything with him until after 2016

Just draft your young guy and keep Smith around to help for a season, then move on.

Smith can be our Chase Daniel for a year.

June 1st cut next year and we gain $1 million in cap space.

oaklandhater · 10-23-2015, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise

I'm not sure we couldn't trade him. There will certainly be a QB poor team this offseason. Someone traded for Matt Cassel this year.

Is it possible we could basically give him away for a 7th? That a team could have him just for assuming the contract?

(Not that Andy will give up on his guy yet.)

If the texans can trade Matt schuab some one will trade for smith

O.city · 10-23-2015, 02:24 PM

If they admit smith was a mistake just eat it and move on

Mr. Laz · 10-23-2015, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence

June 1st cut next year and we gain $1 million in cap space.

no ... 100k cap space along with 15 million in dead space

makes no sense to not keep him for another year

you being pissed doesn't count

We just need to go get another young QB to develop that can start whenever he's ready.

rambleonthruthefog · 10-23-2015, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

1. bottom 5 pass pro OL
2. Andy's playcalls
3. bottom 10 defense giving up the lead in the last minutes for two games

These three things combined with a crappy QB = pathetic excuse for a professional football team

Sandy Vagina · 10-23-2015, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rambleonthruthefog

These three things combined with most any QB = pathetic excuse for a professional football team

FYP

Sandy Vagina · 10-23-2015, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

When Smith does get a look, he misses it. When he does have a throwing lane, he misfires. When he does have a guy open downfield, he's busy staring at the rush and bailing.

Too often, this is true... but let me ask you.. how do you think it got to be this way? You think he simply was never a good prospect? or is it far more possible that being behind terrible circumstances for a decade may have finally just broke him?

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

He is, however, easily the biggest problem on this team.

Now this is a really stupid thing to say. He may be part of the problem at this point... but to put him above a terrible OL is simply shining a light on your hostility over the fact that he can not be the savior of so much fail around him.

Sandy Vagina · 10-23-2015, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

The 2011 49ers offensive line wasn't bad, yet Smith was sacked 44 times.

another ignorant as **** thing to say. They were a good run blocking team, but dreadful pass blocking bunch.

Two rookies... much better run blockers than pass.. starting at LG and RT.

An old has-been at 33 yrs of age at C.. had minimal mobility left.

Adam Snyder at RG was a complete disaster.

... and all of this for a bunch of guys learning a yr 1 scheme after the coaching lockout.

That OL wasn't bad at pass protecting? LOL... seriously GFY idiot.

**RealSNR** · 10-23-2015, 04:39 PM

We have to keep Smith for 2016. What we do with him is up to us, but we gotta keep him around on the roster. We're stuck there.

**RealSNR** · 10-23-2015, 04:40 PM

Although I'd gladly take that extraordinary cap hit just to have Sandy Cheeks go the **** away and follow her boyfriend to the Calgary Stampede or wherever the **** it is he plays next.

Simply Red · 10-23-2015, 04:41 PM

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