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Old 07-01-2015, 10:11 AM   #1
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What was that Andrew Luck did to him in the playoffs two years ago? That's the definition of smoked. Alex couldn't generate a touchdown when he needed to and Luck was slinging the football at will, no matter if it was an interception or a touchdown, he kept throwing all over and scoring quick and Alex wasn't generating anything quick enough to counter.

The gunslinger beats him more times than not, it's because Alex lacks a big arm.
Alex put up 40+ points with no Jamaal and also lost Knile Davis and Donnie Avery shortly after. The defense already had a hobbled set of pass rushers and lost their best corner to injury early in the 3rd quarter (when Luck went crazy) On top of that, they had that miracle bounce where Luck fumbled and the ball bounced right back to him and he scored with it.

To blame that loss on Alex Smith is just flat out disregarding facts.
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Old 07-01-2015, 01:50 PM   #2
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What was that Andrew Luck did to him in the playoffs two years ago? That's the definition of smoked. Alex couldn't generate a touchdown when he needed to and Luck was slinging the football at will, no matter if it was an interception or a touchdown, he kept throwing all over and scoring quick and Alex wasn't generating anything quick enough to counter.

The gunslinger beats him more times than not, it's because Alex lacks a big arm.
We can talk about all of his miserable moments, of which there are many... but the stone cold fact is that Smith balled the **** out in that game and no amount of revisionist history can change it.

You're off base here.
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Old 07-01-2015, 02:45 PM   #3
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We can talk about all of his miserable moments, of which there are many... but the stone cold fact is that Smith balled the **** out in that game and no amount of revisionist history can change it.
He balled out for a half.
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Old 07-01-2015, 06:44 AM   #4
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"I'm Alex Smith, and I hate long, sustained drives that result in touchdowns".

"Also, I will make your penis shrivel".

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Old 07-01-2015, 06:47 AM   #5
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Yes, a happy medium is ideal.

Given the choice though, I'd rather have a guy who leans a little more gunslinger.
You mean like Jay Cutler?

No thanks.
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Old 07-01-2015, 07:02 AM   #6
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People need to face up to the reality that Andy decided to model this team after the old Ravens. Great defense, good running game and a game managing QB approach.
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Old 07-01-2015, 08:21 AM   #7
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People need to face up to the reality that Andy decided to model this team after the old Ravens. Great defense, good running game and a game managing QB approach.
No, he didn't.

John Dorsey took the parts that were already in place and has been been building around them, while also getting Reid the QB he wanted and trying to build around him and Charles.

This team is looking more like the late 90s, early 2000s Eagles.
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Old 07-01-2015, 03:46 PM   #8
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No, he didn't.

John Dorsey took the parts that were already in place and has been been building around them, while also getting Reid the QB he wanted and trying to build around him and Charles.

This team is looking more like the late 90s, early 2000s Eagles.
While I agree with you, I think it's somewhere in between. Dorsey's drafts/taste in prospects is a lot like Newsome's. The second we took Peters I thought to myself "wow this is the type of pick Ozzy makes" then the day after reports come out that the Ravens were targeting Peters. Our defense is very similar to those great Ravens defenses.
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Old 07-01-2015, 03:04 PM   #9
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44 points should be enough to win any playoff game.

Everybody takes a share of the blame, but I don't think Alex's share should be anywhere near as big as other factors...

Kendrick Lewis having a target on his head all game

Losing Flowers, Avery, Jamaal and Davis to injury in the game

Luck having that stripped ball bounce right back into his hands and scoring with it.

The RB pulling up on the wheel route

Bowe not fully extending on the final pass because he thought he might break his foot if he did (actually said this in an interview)


I guess I can't fault Alex that much for not scoring more than 44 points when he lost 3 of his best offensive players to injury...but I fault him for not being efficient while throwing the ball away up 28 pts, snapping the ball with time left on the play clock, running out of bounds on a scramble, throwing it short of the sticks and towards the sideline when we need to roll the clock....lot of stuff a grizzled vet should be better than.
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Old 07-01-2015, 03:13 PM   #10
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44 points should be enough to win any playoff game.

Everybody takes a share of the blame, but I don't think Alex's share should be anywhere near as big as other factors...

Kendrick Lewis having a target on his head all game

Losing Flowers, Avery, Jamaal and Davis to injury in the game

Luck having that stripped ball bounce right back into his hands and scoring with it.

The RB pulling up on the wheel route

Bowe not fully extending on the final pass because he thought he might break his foot if he did (actually said this in an interview)


I guess I can't fault Alex that much for not scoring more than 44 points when he lost 3 of his best offensive players to injury...but I fault him for not being efficient while throwing the ball away up 28 pts, snapping the ball with time left on the play clock, running out of bounds on a scramble, throwing it short of the sticks and towards the sideline when we need to roll the clock....lot of stuff a grizzled vet should be better than.
Great post!

Alex played great. But he shares some of the blame for the loss. (Just like Andy Reid, the defense, etc).
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Old 07-01-2015, 03:45 PM   #11
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Great post!

Alex played great. But he shares some of the blame for the loss. (Just like Andy Reid, the defense, etc).
He doesn't share some of the blame. He shares a really, really, really small % of the blame. So small that it's not even worth mentioning his name. A perfect QB performance is completely unreasonable, especially when you have to carry that kind of a team.
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Old 07-01-2015, 03:52 PM   #12
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He doesn't share some of the blame. He shares a really, really, really small % of the blame. So small that it's not even worth mentioning his name. A perfect QB performance is completely unreasonable, especially when you have to carry that kind of a team.
He left a total over 7 minutes on the play clock in the second half.
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Old 07-01-2015, 03:56 PM   #13
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He left a total over 7 minutes on the play clock in the second half.
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He left a total over 7 minutes on the play clock in the second half.
I don't remember anything about clock management.

It still doesn't matter to me. You've got a guy who played at a hall of fame level save for a few mistakes, maybe including clock management. And in this case, I can't blame him for closing because he threw a good enough pass to set up a game winning field goal. So in the grand scheme of things, it's seems petty for people to even bring this game up as one of Smith's shortcomings. This is one of the few games in his career at KC that I thought we actually have a QB who can win some playoff games for us.
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Old 07-01-2015, 03:06 PM   #15
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Alex Smith doesn't lose games the conventional way that quarterbacks lose games. That is why his fans have such a hard time dealing with people who dislike his game.

Alex Smith doesn't lose games the way Jay Cutler loses games (throwing 3 interceptions, one being a pick 6). Alex Smith loses games by not taking advantage of the chances he is given, thus missing out on gamechanging opportunities. Its very difficult to quantify how Alex loses games, which is why some people refuse to believe he is as big of a problem as he is.

That one 49er fan who joined the site when Alex was traded to us warned us that he would divide our fan base. That is exactly what he has done. Good posters like On the Warpath are choosing not to be a part of this site anymore largely because of how divided we have become. I dont have the longterm relationships that a lot of people have here, but its sad.
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