Some Quick Things

[Chris Meck]

Tough, hard fought football game against a physical Titans team that always gives Andy and Mahomes fits.

1. I don't think Titans win with a hobbled Tannehill, either. Willis' outside mobility was their second best weapon. Tannehill would've completed some passes, but also would've been a sitting duck and the Chiefs' pass rush was improved.

2. Chiefs defense was outstanding. Derrick Henry is a MAN out there, and other than the one big run, they bottled him up pretty well. Those of you calling for Spags head are NUTS. Spags has been a magician this year, playing all these rookies, and still dials up the perfect play in the crucial moment.

3. Saunders needs MOAR SNAPS. He's clearly better than Nnadi. In fact, he certainly appears to be our best DT not named Jones.

4.Wylie blows goats. He's absolutely terrible, and overmatched on an NFL field.

5. Trey Smith...I don't know what's going on, but he's not been playing all that well either.

6. OBJ is not good enough. At his best, he's average. Demanding top of the market pay when you're not very good is a bad look.

7. 68 passes? Yeesh. Our inability to run the ball has got to be fixed. You can't do that every game. You just can't. I know Wylie can't run block either, but I don't understand why the other four just cannot open holes when that's supposed to be each of their strong suit.

8. The Titans are what they always are; they're a problem. They're tough, they're physical, they're well coached. You can hate Vrabel if you want, but he always has his guys ready to play hard for him. That was a VERY disciplined defense. I didn't see anything all that fancy happening coverage-wise. They just executed. They're going to be back in the play-offs again.

9. Butker. What's up with that? Dooooooood.

10. We should recognize the Titans; they're the 90's Chiefs. They played hard, they played physical, they were disciplined in coverage, they throttled the superior quarterback for 75% of the game...and then the HOF'er dialed it up and beat them. Elway used to do that shit to us all the time. Now we have the boogeyman. Damn, it feels good to be a gangster.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

You are reading way too much into the breakdown of what conference the teams are from. They have had tight games against teams that typically play them tight with the exception of the Raiders but it was a division game so they are always a challenge.

The fact is they have the best offense in football so if they are "struggling" they are doing that better than any other team in the NFL.

No they aren't perfect, Mahomes isn't perfect, but usually when they aren't scoring its mostly self inflicted. Last night they just got outplayed up front. Mahomes was pressured 22 times. So that's about 1/3rd of his drop backs and he actually stood in the pocket more than usual.

"Best offense in football" is like the tallest midget right now. Tom Brady was correct a few weeks ago when he said there's a ton of ugly football being played in the NFL these days. The Chiefs are part of that, with 5 of 8 games being very ugly performances on the offensive side of the ball. Defenses are playing well this year and refs are messing up the flow up the game for many teams. Combine those two factors and it's a lot of ugly football if you aren't a defensive coach/player right now.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by O.city

I mean, he threw 68 passes. Yeah, he had alot of yards.

When we talk about the Chiefs defense, yards don't matter points do.

Now yards matter?

He didn't play a good game and I'd guarantee he'd be the first to tell you so.

Yards mattered in this game (offensively) because it allowed KC to keep TEN pinned deep in their own half of the field. That matters when that offense is having as much trouble as they were having just moving the ball into scoring position.


As for our defense, i don't know how anyone can complain today about the job they did yesterday. Outside of about 6 plays, they were dominant.

And I call BS on whoever said that stupid shit about Tannehill being able to win that game. He's been marginally better than Willis this season, and Tannehill never escapes the rushes that Willis escaped last night.

[O.city]

Defenses are playing much better this year. Any ideas why?

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Yards mattered in this game (offensively) because it allowed KC to keep TEN pinned deep in their own half of the field. That matters when that offense is having as much trouble as they were having just moving the ball into scoring position.


As for our defense, i don't know how anyone can complain today about the job they did yesterday. Outside of about 6 plays, they were dominant.

And I call BS on whoever said that stupid shit about Tannehill being able to win that game. He's been marginally better than Willis this season, and Tannehill never escapes the rushes that Willis escaped last night.

Exactly. I think the Titans would have, somehow, been worse with a hobbled Tannehill trying to throw the football around.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by O.city

Now you're using TD's. Yes, scores matter.

But 14 points?

I'll be curious to see the film review and analysis from Seth Keysor this week to see how much of that was purely on our QB.

[JohnnyV13]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

I think Karlaftis will be fine. He is trying to chain moves together, as evidenced by that clip I posted a few days ago. He's about a step slow going from one move to the next, imo.

So he's been about a step to a step and a half away from actually getting some sacks this season. That can be cleaned up.

In the meantime, he's obviously been getting quite a few pressures, and he's been pretty solid vs. the run so far. He even made a couple last night, as I recall. A really nice one where he was supposed to be rushing, but recognized that the ball went to the RB (not Henry), reversed himself and made the tackle for just a two or three yard gain.

He'll be fine.

People here forget that Justin Houson didn't get a sack until his 12th game of his rookie season, when he broke out for 3. He still only got 5.5 total in 2011.

Thing is, Houston didn't have the spotlight of being a 1st round pick, and the 2011 Chiefs sucked. They had a lot more things to complain about instead of lack of production from a 3rd round rookie pick.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by DRM08

"Best offense in football" is like the tallest midget right now. Tom Brady was correct a few weeks ago when he said there's a ton of ugly football being played in the NFL these days. The Chiefs are part of that, with 5 of 8 games being very ugly performances on the offensive side of the ball. Defenses are playing well this year and refs are messing up the flow up the game for many teams. Combine those two factors and it's a lot of ugly football if you aren't a defensive coach/player right now.

Dude I'm not trying to homer out here or anything but I just cant keep having a conversation where 5 of 8 games the offense has been shit yet almost halfway through the season KC has the most efficient offense in the NFL and its not even marginally close. The gap between KC and Buffalo (#2) is as big as the gap between Buffalo and the #16 offense.

I mean mother of God those other 3 games were really really really powerful by your argument.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Was Fortson dinged up or just a gameday inactive?

Because the latter is a mistake, IMO. Especially when it was just so you could have the privilege of having TWO "Dave Toub Memorial Special Team Scrubs' on the roster. 3 if you count Cochrane.

I mean lord, do you REALLY need Kemp? FFS, stop acting like Gunner is as hard to play as ****ing QB is. Or as critical.

If you are hell bent on keeping Lammons on this team, you can't also be sitting guys like Fortson so you can play Kemp. It's getting unreasonable, IMO.

Originally Posted by Megatron96

I thought Andy said he got hurt early in the SF game and had a contused thigh or something that he played through for the rest of the game. Maybe he was talking about someone else, but I thought he was talking about Fortson.

Hip.

Originally Posted by O.city

Everyone wants to trash this OL.

God damn it, the QB needs to take some of the heat on this. Yeah, you got hit a few times. Shit happens.

Stand in there and throw the football to the guys getting open.

I need to rewatch, but that's not the description I remember seeing. I thought he held on in the pocket longer than I wanted, but most times, he knew exactly when the pressure was coming and got rid of it.

I was profoundly impressed by Mahomes performance from the couch.

Admittedly I am open to being an idiot here. I was very much not watching for analytical review, I was an emotional wreck.

[Couch-Potato]

I'm starting to get interested in the idea of stealing a star FA RB to round out our attack this offseason. Saquan's up for a contract this offseason, Kamara could become available after next year. Our passing attack is unstoppable, imagine if we also had an A running game!

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

I'm starting to get interested in the idea of stealing a star FA RB to round out our attack this offseason. Saquan's up for a contract this offseason, Kamara could become available after next year. Our passing attack is unstoppable, imagine if we also had an A running game!

Right now, a top RB would be wasted behind this offensive line. Gotta improve there first.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Dude I'm not trying to homer out here or anything but I just cant keep having a conversation where 5 of 8 games the offense has been shit yet almost halfway through the season KC has the most efficient offense in the NFL and its not even marginally close. The gap between KC and Buffalo (#2) is as big as the gap between Buffalo and the #16 offense.

I mean mother of God those other 3 games were really really really powerful by your argument.

Points are the only thing that matter IMHO. 21 points per game in the 5 "struggle" games I mentioned against AFC teams. That low rate of scoring is similar to the 20th best offense in the NFL. They scored over 40 points per game in the 3 strong games against the NFC.

I don't think it's too much to hope for 27-30 points per game against AFC opponents. They are capable of this, but they aren't doing it so far this year. Gotta find a way to be better in the later part of the season against AFC teams, especially the playoffs. Do you think 21 points per game will be good enough in playoff games against teams with explosive offenses like Cincy, Miami, or Buffalo?

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

I'm starting to get interested in the idea of stealing a star FA RB to round out our attack this offseason. Saquan's up for a contract this offseason, Kamara could become available after next year. Our passing attack is unstoppable, imagine if we also had an A running game!

Shut up about Saquon. I've had wet dreams about him in this offense, and consciously master-bated more than a few times thinking about it, but it will never happen. Can't afford a high-dollar RB on this team for the foreseeable future.

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Hip.

I need to rewatch, but that's not the description I remember seeing. I thought he held on in the pocket longer than I wanted, but most times, he knew exactly when the pressure was coming and got rid of it.

I was profoundly impressed by Mahomes performance from the couch.

Admittedly I am open to being an idiot here. I was very much not watching for analytical review, I was an emotional wreck.

Seemed like on several plays he pumped on a quick strike before moving to different reads. My pure speculation is Tennessee was knocking guys off their routes forcing Mahomes to hold it longer.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by JohnnyV13

People here forget that Justin Houson didn't get a sack until his 12th game of his rookie season, when he broke out for 3. He still only got 5.5 total in 2011.

Thing is, Houston didn't have the spotlight of being a 1st round pick, and the 2011 Chiefs sucked. They had a lot more things to complain about instead of lack of production from a 3rd round rookie pick.

Meh, the 30th pick is not going to get you an elite pass-rusher 99% of the time. Basically it was like a second round pick.

Obviously he needs to keep working on his skills, and let's remember that he didn't come into the league in NFL shape.

Next season, after a full NFL training program and diet program, I'm sure he'll be a lot better. I wouldn't bd surprised if we found out that he takes some kind of training for his flexibility as well during the offseason.

Now, if he comes into next season and he's no better than he is right now, I'll be concerned.

[poolboy]

I would have to add that Pats will to win is probably unmatched anywhere