You will never guess who Mel Kiper has the Chiefs taking now...

DTLB58 · 04-01-2008, 02:15 PM

Braden Albert

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=182327

Deberg_1990 · 04-01-2008, 02:24 PM

Who the Hell is Mel Kiper Jr. ???

Coogs · 04-01-2008, 06:03 PM

You see now, this is why the Planet is not near the place it use to be. I have stated all along that I would be happy with Dorsey, Ellis, Ryan, and either of the Longs at our #5 pick. There are also a few other players who happen to deserve some discussion at our #5 spot.

But, unlike the old days when some decent draft discussions were held around here, you now get ridiculed for merely stating what the pundits on TV have to say.

Coogs - not going away, but sure missing the old days when topics were discussed.

Coogs · 04-01-2008, 06:38 PM

Sorry DTLB58, I thought you were taking a shot I me.

I went to ESPN, and you were right... Kiper does have us taking Albert...

Look for Parcells to draft lineman with No. 1 overall pick
By Mel Kiper Jr.
ESPN.com
(Archive)
Updated: April 1, 2008

For the third time in as many mock drafts, I'm projecting someone new to go No. 1 overall. My initial mock draft had LSU DT Glenn Dorsey going first, then I had Virginia DE Chris Long going No. 1.

Now it's Michigan OT Jake Long's turn to reside atop the draft board.

But whether it's Dorsey, Chris Long or Jake Long, one thing's for certain: Miami executive vice president of football operations Bill Parcells wants to take a lineman with the No. 1 overall pick. Also, the one word you can expect to hear a lot leading up to the draft is sign-ability. All indications are Parcells will draft the player who he can sign and get into camp.

Two other notable changes from my last mock draft deal with the emergence of Virginia offensive lineman Branden Albert and Boston College QB Matt Ryan.

Albert was a guard at Virginia, but he did play two games at left tackle. His individual workouts have been phenomenal and Albert has convinced teams he can play left tackle in the NFL. I have him going No. 5 to the Chiefs, and they aren't going to draft him that high to play guard.

As for Ryan, if Miami, Atlanta and Kansas City all pass on this year's No. 1 quarterback prospect, the Baltimore Ravens would love to see him on the board when it's their turn to pick. One thing to watch on draft day: I'm hearing if the Falcons pass on Ryan, they might try and trade back into the first round (Atlanta owns two second-round picks) in an attempt to get Delaware QB Joe Flacco.

The three new names appearing on my mock draft are: Purdue TE Dustin Keller; USC DE Lawrence Jackson; and Arkansas St. safety Tyrell Johnson. Oklahoma WR Malcolm Kelly and Miami's Calais Campbell and Kenny Phillips dropped out of the first round.

My final mock draft will appear on the eve of the NFL draft, April 25.

* denotes underclassman

Kiper's First-Round Projection
No. Team Player School
1 Miami Dolphins Jake Long, OT Michigan
2 St. Louis Rams Chris Long, DE Virginia
3 Atlanta Falcons Glenn Dorsey, DT LSU
4 Oakland Raiders *Darren McFadden, RB Arkansas
5 Kansas City Chiefs *Branden Albert, OT/G Virginia
6 New York Jets *Vernon Gholston, DE Ohio St.
7 New England Patriots (from SF) *Aqib Talib, CB Kansas
8 Baltimore Ravens Matt Ryan, QB Boston College
9 Cincinnati Bengals Sedrick Ellis, DT USC
10 New Orleans Saints Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB Tennessee St.
11 Buffalo Bills *Derrick Harvey, DE Florida
12 Denver Broncos Keith Rivers, LB USC
13 Carolina Panthers *Ryan Clady, OT Boise St.
14 Chicago Bears Chris Williams, OT Vanderbilt
15 Detroit Lions *Rashard Mendenhall, RB Illinois
16 Arizona Cardinals Leodis McKelvin, CB Troy
17 Minnesota Vikings *Phillip Merling, DE Clemson
18 Houston Texans *Jonathan Stewart, RB Oregon
19 Philadelphia Eagles Jeff Otah, OT Pittsburgh
20 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Mike Jenkins, CB South Florida
21 Washington Redskins *Devin Thomas, WR Michigan St.
22 Dallas Cowboys (from CLE) *Felix Jones, RB Arkansas
23 Pittsburgh Steelers Kentwan Balmer, DT North Carolina
24 Tennessee Titans *DeSean Jackson, WR California
25 Seattle Seahawks Dustin Keller, TE Purdue
26 Jacksonville Jaguars Lawrence Jackson, DE USC
27 San Diego Chargers Gosder Cherilus, OT Boston College
28 Dallas Cowboys *Justin King, CB Penn St.
29 San Francisco 49ers (from IND) *Jerod Mayo, LB Tennessee
30 Green Bay Packers *Brandon Flowers, CB Virginia Tech
31 New England Patriots Forfeited pick
32 New York Giants Tyrell Johnson, S Arkansas St.

ChiefsCountry · 04-01-2008, 06:43 PM

Glad Kiper is always wrong.

rad · 04-01-2008, 06:45 PM

Why the drastic fall for Ellis? Has he been outed or something? NTTAWWT

MLU · 04-01-2008, 06:46 PM

I like his pick for the Saints, but I bet they trade up (probably to #7) for Dorsey or Ellis...

ChiefsCountry · 04-01-2008, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rad

Why the drastic fall for Ellis? Has he been outed or something? NTTAWWT

Kiper and company look at needs and dont always go for BPA.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-01-2008, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Kiper and company look at needs and dont always go for BPA.

Also, he's notorious for doing "favors" for agents and making players look more valuable than they really are. Like his opinion means jack shit.

I mean, Aqib Talib at SEVEN?

That's an inside job if I ever saw one.

rad · 04-01-2008, 06:54 PM

Interesting. Thanks for the no-shitter, I didn't realize. What a slimeball.

Chiefnj2 · 04-01-2008, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Also, he's notorious for doing "favors" for agents and making players look more valuable than they really are. Like his opinion means jack shit.

I mean, Aqib Talib at SEVEN?

That's an inside job if I ever saw one.

Talk about inside jobs, try stomaching Mayock as he gushes over Ryan. "His love of football is only topped by his love of family and God."

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-01-2008, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Talk about inside jobs, try stomaching Mayock as he gushes over Ryan. "His love of football is only topped by his love of family and God."

I agree completely.

I know Mayock has a connection with the Ryan family, but didn't he attend BC as well?

LLV · 04-01-2008, 11:41 PM

i used to subscribe to kiper back in the 80's when his wife would pick up the phone

LLV · 04-01-2008, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Also, he's notorious for doing "favors" for agents and making players look more valuable than they really are. Like his opinion means jack shit.

I mean, Aqib Talib at SEVEN?

That's an inside job if I ever saw one.

yes mel has lost it but he is a trailblazer who deserves respect

LLV · 04-01-2008, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I agree completely.

I know Mayock has a connection with the Ryan family, but didn't he attend BC as well?

yup

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Coogs In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northern Kansas Casino cash: $1344349	You see now, this is why the Planet is not near the place it use to be. I have stated all along that I would be happy with Dorsey, Ellis, Ryan, and either of the Longs at our #5 pick. There are also a few other players who happen to deserve some discussion at our #5 spot. But, unlike the old days when some decent draft discussions were held around here, you now get ridiculed for merely stating what the pundits on TV have to say. Coogs - not going away, but sure missing the old days when topics were discussed.
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Coogs In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northern Kansas Casino cash: $1344349	Sorry DTLB58, I thought you were taking a shot I me. I went to ESPN, and you were right... Kiper does have us taking Albert... Look for Parcells to draft lineman with No. 1 overall pick By Mel Kiper Jr. ESPN.com (Archive) Updated: April 1, 2008 For the third time in as many mock drafts, I'm projecting someone new to go No. 1 overall. My initial mock draft had LSU DT Glenn Dorsey going first, then I had Virginia DE Chris Long going No. 1. Now it's Michigan OT Jake Long's turn to reside atop the draft board. But whether it's Dorsey, Chris Long or Jake Long, one thing's for certain: Miami executive vice president of football operations Bill Parcells wants to take a lineman with the No. 1 overall pick. Also, the one word you can expect to hear a lot leading up to the draft is sign-ability. All indications are Parcells will draft the player who he can sign and get into camp. Two other notable changes from my last mock draft deal with the emergence of Virginia offensive lineman Branden Albert and Boston College QB Matt Ryan. Albert was a guard at Virginia, but he did play two games at left tackle. His individual workouts have been phenomenal and Albert has convinced teams he can play left tackle in the NFL. I have him going No. 5 to the Chiefs, and they aren't going to draft him that high to play guard. As for Ryan, if Miami, Atlanta and Kansas City all pass on this year's No. 1 quarterback prospect, the Baltimore Ravens would love to see him on the board when it's their turn to pick. One thing to watch on draft day: I'm hearing if the Falcons pass on Ryan, they might try and trade back into the first round (Atlanta owns two second-round picks) in an attempt to get Delaware QB Joe Flacco. The three new names appearing on my mock draft are: Purdue TE Dustin Keller; USC DE Lawrence Jackson; and Arkansas St. safety Tyrell Johnson. Oklahoma WR Malcolm Kelly and Miami's Calais Campbell and Kenny Phillips dropped out of the first round. My final mock draft will appear on the eve of the NFL draft, April 25. * denotes underclassman Kiper's First-Round Projection No. Team Player School 1 Miami Dolphins Jake Long, OT Michigan 2 St. Louis Rams Chris Long, DE Virginia 3 Atlanta Falcons Glenn Dorsey, DT LSU 4 Oakland Raiders Darren McFadden, RB Arkansas 5 Kansas City Chiefs Branden Albert, OT/G Virginia** 6 New York Jets Vernon Gholston, DE Ohio St. 7 New England Patriots (from SF) Aqib Talib, CB Kansas 8 Baltimore Ravens Matt Ryan, QB Boston College 9 Cincinnati Bengals Sedrick Ellis, DT USC 10 New Orleans Saints Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB Tennessee St. 11 Buffalo Bills Derrick Harvey, DE Florida 12 Denver Broncos Keith Rivers, LB USC 13 Carolina Panthers Ryan Clady, OT Boise St. 14 Chicago Bears Chris Williams, OT Vanderbilt 15 Detroit Lions Rashard Mendenhall, RB Illinois 16 Arizona Cardinals Leodis McKelvin, CB Troy 17 Minnesota Vikings Phillip Merling, DE Clemson 18 Houston Texans Jonathan Stewart, RB Oregon 19 Philadelphia Eagles Jeff Otah, OT Pittsburgh 20 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Mike Jenkins, CB South Florida 21 Washington Redskins Devin Thomas, WR Michigan St. 22 Dallas Cowboys (from CLE) Felix Jones, RB Arkansas 23 Pittsburgh Steelers Kentwan Balmer, DT North Carolina 24 Tennessee Titans DeSean Jackson, WR California 25 Seattle Seahawks Dustin Keller, TE Purdue 26 Jacksonville Jaguars Lawrence Jackson, DE USC 27 San Diego Chargers Gosder Cherilus, OT Boston College 28 Dallas Cowboys Justin King, CB Penn St. 29 San Francisco 49ers (from IND) Jerod Mayo, LB Tennessee 30 Green Bay Packers *Brandon Flowers, CB Virginia Tech 31 New England Patriots Forfeited pick 32 New York Giants Tyrell Johnson, S Arkansas St.
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