Chiefs Sam Mellinger: Chiefs whiff on chance to improve at QB - Page 2

scho63 · 03-21-2012, 02:59 AM

Scott Piolii will be happy to read this in the morning's paper....

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/03/20...o-improve.html

Can't say I disagreee

Rasputin · 03-21-2012, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Fritz88

I really do believe that Polio is starting to feel the heat from this Cassel experiment.
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I think he is on a short leash from Clark Hunt as it was Clark Hunt who made Pioli to fire Haley. So if Pioli is that big of an idiot to put his stock in Cassel he deserves to be fired.

InChiefsHeaven · 03-21-2012, 05:49 AM

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The moment he passes on a legit QB shot to stick with Cassel or any other "safe" option, I'll agree, but I don't know what else he could have done. (Again, other than sign a former back-up that looked good with an elite offense)

Which he already did and look how that turned out.

I agree, other than break the bank on Manning and have no upgrades anywhere else, what else should he have done? We might still make some crazy ass move to get Tannehill, but other than that, there were no legit QB 's out there. Orton is Cassel 2.0. A little better than Matt but not enough to make giving him a contract worth it.

We won't be winning the division this year IMO. But we'll be a good team and we'll have to hope for a QB next year. Again.

**wazu** · 03-21-2012, 05:53 AM

Did Pioli seriously mock Orton's $10.5 million contract? After giving $60 million to an inferior QB he had to trade a high 2nd round pick to get?

LOCOChief · 03-21-2012, 06:00 AM

$96 Million / 5 years / 36 year old injured QB - No thanks.

If we really want a franchise QB we would've been further away from getting one with PM here, maybe Orton too.

2bikemike · 03-21-2012, 06:03 AM

I would say we are just about where we started last year. Maybe slightly better. Orton is certainly better that Quinn but as others have said he (Orton) and Cassell are pretty even IMHO.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 03-21-2012, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu

Did Pioli seriously mock Orton's $10.5 million contract? After giving $60 million to an inferior QB he had to trade a high 2nd round pick to get?

Yeah, I found that humorous as well, considering he paid Orton $2.5M for THREE GAMES last year.

BoneKrusher · 03-21-2012, 06:11 AM

“I think we have a very good quarterback situation now,” he says. “I haven’t looked at it through that prism. I think we have a very good and very competitive quarterback situation. I really do. And it is what it is. You know what I mean? That’s the situation we have. And I’m very comfortable with it.”

is Scott Pioli really this stoopid?

Deberg_1990 · 03-21-2012, 06:16 AM

Kind of hard for me to blame Pioli for not getting Manning. If a guy doesnt want to go somewhere or the Owner only wants to pay so much, nothing he can do about it. Simple as that.

The Chiefs would have been better served tanking the season last year like the Colts did.

ChiefFripp · 03-21-2012, 06:19 AM

F it! Move on. Pioloi probably knows exactly why Manning didn't choose KC, but why rub salt in the wound? We have enough talent on this team now to win with a mediocre QB. The Chiefs should actually be the antithesis of what every other team is trying to be, which is a pass first team. We should have a clock chewing, wear you down offense with a lot of teams will not be prepared to handle. I see us winning the division more than I see a Manning led broncos winning it.

philfree · 03-21-2012, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher

“I think we have a very good quarterback situation now,” he says. “I haven’t looked at it through that prism. I think we have a very good and very competitive quarterback situation. I really do. And it is what it is. You know what I mean? That’s the situation we have. And I’m very comfortable with it.”

is Scott Pioli really this stoopid?

It sucks to read that but there's nothing else he can say unless he wants to throw all three of our QBs under the bus.

We didin't whiff on Manning because he was never even pitched our way.

Didn't get over $5mil in the 1st year of his contract?

I feel like the KC press hate Pioli so much that they are really trying to get him run out of town.

BoneKrusher · 03-21-2012, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree

I feel like the KC press hate Pioli so much that they are really trying to get him run out of town.

as they should.
he doesn't have a clue when it comes to QB's.

philfree · 03-21-2012, 06:25 AM

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as they should.
he doesn't have a clue when it comes to QB's.

While I want to agree with that he really has had to many to choose from.

Quesadilla Joe · 03-21-2012, 06:29 AM

We should trade Pioli and our 1st and 2nd round picks to the Donks for Horseface. At least Horseface will do everything in his power to bring us the franchise QB the Kansas City Chiefs deserve.

TRR · 03-21-2012, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree

It sucks to read that but there's nothing else he can say unless he wants to throw all three of our QBs under the bus.

We didin't whiff on Manning because he was never even pitched our way.

Didn't get over $5mil in the 1st year of his contract?

I feel like the KC press hate Pioli so much that they are really trying to get him run out of town.

It's the offseason and the media needs a story. I do agree with you however. Mellinger keeps comparing the Cassel/Orton combo to Cassel/Quinn, but what he doesn't say is that they really were never "together.". Cassel was done for the year when Orton came in.

The Flynn suggestion is a good one in theory, but Flynn wanted to go to a familiar place with a very good chance to start, and that is exactly what he is getting in Seattle. KC would have had a hard time winning that battle as well.

I am just thankfull that Pioli didn't continue to chase Manning throughout FA only to lose other potential FA's like the 49ers and others did. If Manning didn't see what KC was all about and at least give them a visit, then so be it. Admittedly KC wasn't Eric Winston's top choice either until coming to KC, seeing the town, and meeting with the brass.
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BoneKrusher · 03-21-2012, 06:31 AM

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While I want to agree with that he really has had to many to choose from.

when your team is on the verge of Greatness (except for QB) as the case with the Chiefs you get aggressive.
by signing Quinn to compete with Cassel, he surrendered.

03-21-2012, 02:59 AM
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wazu ... Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $-1547705 VARSITY	Did Pioli seriously mock Orton's $10.5 million contract? After giving $60 million to an inferior QB he had to trade a high 2nd round pick to get?
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LOCOChief True Chiefs Fan Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bull Bay Casino cash: $6605791	$96 Million / 5 years / 36 year old injured QB - No thanks. If we really want a franchise QB we would've been further away from getting one with PM here, maybe Orton too.
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2bikemike Born to Ride Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: NWA Casino cash: $-1024623	I would say we are just about where we started last year. Maybe slightly better. Orton is certainly better that Quinn but as others have said he (Orton) and Cassell are pretty even IMHO.
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BoneKrusher That's Right Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Bluefield, Virginia Casino cash: $9976645	“I think we have a very good quarterback situation now,” he says. “I haven’t looked at it through that prism. I think we have a very good and very competitive quarterback situation. I really do. And it is what it is. You know what I mean? That’s the situation we have. And I’m very comfortable with it.” is Scott Pioli really this stoopid? __________________ "MaHomes/MaAuto"
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03-21-2012, 06:16 AM	#23
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $254454	Kind of hard for me to blame Pioli for not getting Manning. If a guy doesnt want to go somewhere or the Owner only wants to pay so much, nothing he can do about it. Simple as that. The Chiefs would have been better served tanking the season last year like the Colts did. __________________ Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning: Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down. One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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03-21-2012, 06:19 AM	#24
ChiefFripp Veteran Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: KC Casino cash: $10004900	F it! Move on. Pioloi probably knows exactly why Manning didn't choose KC, but why rub salt in the wound? We have enough talent on this team now to win with a mediocre QB. The Chiefs should actually be the antithesis of what every other team is trying to be, which is a pass first team. We should have a clock chewing, wear you down offense with a lot of teams will not be prepared to handle. I see us winning the division more than I see a Manning led broncos winning it.
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Quesadilla Joe Abolish The Salary Cap! Join Date: Mar 2008 Casino cash: $3408675	We should trade Pioli and our 1st and 2nd round picks to the Donks for Horseface. At least Horseface will do everything in his power to bring us the franchise QB the Kansas City Chiefs deserve. __________________ “(Sean) Payton feels as strongly about Bo Nix as he did Mahomes.“ - Adam Schefter
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