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Old 02-17-2013, 02:39 AM  
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Would you trade the no. 1 pick for Cam Newton?
We ran into this topic late Saturday night in another thread.

I personally don't like Cam at all. He's got a ton of talent, but is an absolute idiot. He can't even learn a full playbook. Newton has put up some big numbers, but they haven't translated into a lot of wins.

He is 13-19 as a starter over 2 years.

58.9% comp | 7,920 yards pass | 40 passing TDs | 29 INTS | 1,447 rush yards | 22 rushing TDs |

Would you give up our no. 1 pick for Cam Newton?
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Old 12-23-2013, 11:06 AM   #377
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Old 11-30-2015, 07:36 PM   #378
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No way, he is a future Vince Young/Jamarcus. You can see the mental breakdowns already. Doesn't matter how much talent he has, his brain will prevent him from ever being a winner. He put up some amazing stats in his rookie year but his record was still pitiful.
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Anyone who votes no is out of their mind.
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Alright shitstain: 40tds in two seasons equals an average of 31 tds a year? Try 40/2 reerun. He also has 29 ints in that time with an above average qb rating of 85ish (Fitzpatrick pulled an 83 last season) and two losing seasons. Not to mention what 4-5 public meltdowns/crying like a baby after losses. Most of his stats are garbage time anyway.

Swag doesn't win football games douchebag, just ask huge dorks E Manning, P Manning, Roth, and Flacco.


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Year Team G Att Comp Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD TD% Int Int% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck SckY Rate
2012 Carolina Panthers 16 485 280 57.7 30.3 3,869 8.0 241.8 19 3.9 12 2.5 82 57 11 36 244 86.2
2011 Carolina Panthers 16 517 310 60.0 32.3 4,051 7.8 253.2 21 4.1 17 3.3 91T 65 9 35 260 84.5
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No way in hell I'd take Newton for our first. Not a fan of his at all. Never was. He peaked his rookie year.
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I know this will come to a shock to you as you are obviously convinced otherwise, but I am going to go ahead and break the news to you for your own good.

You're not very bright.
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I can't believe how many Yes votes there are. I wouldn't even give our second for him.
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Cam is a gifted player no doubt but a rocket scientist he is not. As I mentioned in the gruden qb post John asked him what play did you run out there. His answer I don't know then he sees the color held up by o coordinator. Oh that's blue, gruden laughs and says you don't know the plays. He said we make it simple and hold up colors. Lol

You think this guy can learn the complicated reads of the Andy Reid west coast offense?

Once again I'll state it even clearer Hell No!
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He's got a ten cent brain, which has been obvious since he was at Auburn, and it doesn't matter how cheap a waste is, it's still a waste.
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JFC I can't believe some of you voted yes.

It should be obvious at this point that Cam is a head case and doesn't have upstairs what is needed to be a really elite level guy. He's never going to be elite. I don't care about his stats, he's not a winner. He's not a Brees or Rodgers or Eli. He's not. Some of you have lost your ****ing twat minds.

Playing QB isn't just about physical talent, it's also about all of those intangibles that Cam does not have.
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Newton is more like vince young than anyone is ready to admit yet, but it's the same story. He's a headcase who won games at the college level with athleticism, but the NFL exposed the fact that he doesn't really know how to play the QB position.
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I picture Cam losing his cool someday and doing something really, really, really stupid.
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He throws only roughly 25% more TDs than INTs? Ummm ... No!
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Anyone who thinks Cam would be worth giving up the #1 overall for. That's who.

A truly great QB elevates his team to win. Newton celebrates scoring a touchdown in a blowout. The dude is an idiot. And so are you and the other pillowbiter in this thread clamoring for him.
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It's not just about his W/L record. Or the fact that he celebrates a really stupid ass celebration in a blowout. It's both of those things, and the interview with Gruden about how stupid he is. It's the fact that all of the markers on Newton coming out of college about him being a diva and dumb and a headcase are true.

I'm all for taking a QB with the first overall. But Newton is a proven commodity. A proven shitty one.
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NO ! And Hell NO !! Cam is the black version of Jay Cutler when things don't go well during a game and no I'm not comparing physical QB skills but rather poor demeanor, lack of maturity and lack of leadership(it's all about ME !!) when adversity hits during a game as adversity always happens periodically during a game. Cam is the last F"N drama queen QB we need for our team and I don't care how physically gifted he is if you don't have maturity to endure the tough times( a la good leadership) physical skills don't mean sh** !!(See Jeff George, Vince Young, JaFatass, etc....)
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Cam Newton sucks. Those that voted yes are idiots.
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There is no ****ing way I take Cam Newton over the possibility of drafting Geno Smith.
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Thats a little bit different than Cam Newtons laptop stealin' ass. Terrible comparison.
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Old 11-30-2015, 07:49 PM   #380
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Whew. I was worried when this thread popped up.

I've never been a huge fan of Cam Newton.
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Old 11-30-2015, 08:43 PM   #382
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I said in a related thread that I'd take Newton over any NFL QB and the responses were typical CP nonsense.



This thread is comedy gold as well. Tyler Wilson???
Tyler Wilson has been out of the league for two years and Cam Newton currently QB's the 11-0 Panthers.

CP being CP.
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Old 11-30-2015, 08:45 PM   #383
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I've never been a huge fan of Cam Newton.
Shocking.

Even at 6'6, he's barely visible on your illegal stream.
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Old 11-30-2015, 08:45 PM   #384
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Old 11-30-2015, 08:46 PM   #385
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Whew. I was worried when this thread popped up.

I've never been a huge fan of Cam Newton.
Wut? How?
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Wut? How?
He watches football illegally from a stream on an old 15" CRT so the broadcast is like 3x3.

His takes are worse than Clay's and far less informed.

Fantasy football has ruined most discussions in this forum.
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He watches football illegally from a stream on an old 15" CRT so the broadcast like 3x3.

His takes are worse than Clay's and far less informed.

Fantasy football has ruined most discussions in this forum.
I like fantasy football itself, but it skews takes now and makes people ignorant now because it's all about the points and less about the player.
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Wut? How?
He threw a ton of INTs in his first few years despite not throwing a particularly large volume of passes. Completion percentage has always been extremely low.

More than that, watching him in the games he just never wowed me.
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I like fantasy football itself, but it skews takes now and makes people ignorant now because it's all about the points and less about the player.
I stopped playing FF years ago because there were too many occasions in which I'd win the week, IF a Chiefs player played poorly. It just wasn't any fun.

The Chiefs are more important to me than FF or gambling, so I engage in neither.
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Dane's just pissy because he's never been able to debate with me. He's a classic case of arguing the poster, not the post.

He just can't let go.
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