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Old 11-30-2015, 08:52 PM   #1
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He watches football illegally from a stream on an old 15" CRT so the broadcast like 3x3.

His takes are worse than Clay's and far less informed.

Fantasy football has ruined most discussions in this forum.
I like fantasy football itself, but it skews takes now and makes people ignorant now because it's all about the points and less about the player.
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Old 11-30-2015, 08:55 PM   #2
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I like fantasy football itself, but it skews takes now and makes people ignorant now because it's all about the points and less about the player.
I stopped playing FF years ago because there were too many occasions in which I'd win the week, IF a Chiefs player played poorly. It just wasn't any fun.

The Chiefs are more important to me than FF or gambling, so I engage in neither.
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Old 11-30-2015, 10:03 PM   #3
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He threw a ton of INTs in his first few years despite not throwing a particularly large volume of passes. Completion percentage has always been extremely low.

More than that, watching him in the games he just never wowed me.
His back to back 400 yard games to start his rookie season didn't wow you? You're hard to impress then especially being a Chiefs fan.
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I stopped playing FF years ago because there were too many occasions in which I'd win the week, IF a Chiefs player played poorly. It just wasn't any fun.

The Chiefs are more important to me than FF or gambling, so I engage in neither.

Oh I could give a **** about FF if we lose or suck. I give up on it.
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Old 11-30-2015, 10:05 PM   #4
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His back to back 400 yard games to start his rookie season didn't wow you? You're hard to impress then especially being a Chiefs fan.
Pass yards don't impress me much; they never did.
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Old 11-30-2015, 10:12 PM   #5
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Old 11-30-2015, 10:18 PM   #6
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I'm not going to rag on the guy during an 11-0 win streak; I'm just being open and honest. I never would have put him in my top 8 QBs prior to this season.

And despite the fact that they're doing well, I don't think you can point to him as the sole reason. In fact, a lot of his major statistical categories are down from the average this year: completion percentage, YPA, and passing YPG as well as rushing YPC and YPG.

He's upped his TD % and lowered his INT %, though, which I consider very important.
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Old 11-30-2015, 10:54 PM   #7
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I'm not going to rag on the guy during an 11-0 win streak; I'm just being open and honest. I never would have put him in my top 8 QBs prior to this season.

And despite the fact that they're doing well, I don't think you can point to him as the sole reason. In fact, a lot of his major statistical categories are down from the average this year: completion percentage, YPA, and passing YPG as well as rushing YPC and YPG.

He's upped his TD % and lowered his INT %, though, which I consider very important.


There's absolutely no reason to call you on your rampant dipshittery in every thread.

It's clearly on display more often than not.
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Old 11-30-2015, 10:53 PM   #8
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Pass yards don't impress me much; they never did.
Yeah, Favre, Marino, Brees, Manning, Brady, Elway, Tarkenton, Montana, Warner, Unitas?

They all suck.
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Yeah, Favre, Marino, Brees, Manning, Brady, Elway, Tarkenton, Montana, Warner, Unitas?

They all suck.
I never said that.
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I never said that.
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27 TDs in 11 games.

That's elite.
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27 TDs in 11 games.

That's elite.
I wouldn't go elite quite yet but he's trending there. Let's see how he does in the playoffs as the one seed. Love Cam Newton...I hated him in college, so I'm that guy. I've watched Cam a lot being here in the Carolina area. He's ****ing good. He's got a WR core of Ted Ginn, Jericho Cotchery, and a rookie Devin Funchess. 27 TDs. 5 TD game. He's a badass.
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27 TDs in 11 games.

That's elite.
That is great.

I was speaking more to his career prior to this season. I don't think you can argue that he isn't playing well this year. He's scoring more TDs and committing less turnovers.
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