Chiefs Would you trade the no. 1 pick for Cam Newton? - Page 26

HolyHat · 02:51 AM

We ran into this topic late Saturday night in another thread.

I personally don't like Cam at all. He's got a ton of talent, but is an absolute idiot. He can't even learn a full playbook. Newton has put up some big numbers, but they haven't translated into a lot of wins.

He is 13-19 as a starter over 2 years.

58.9% comp | 7,920 yards pass | 40 passing TDs | 29 INTS | 1,447 rush yards | 22 rushing TDs |

Would you give up our no. 1 pick for Cam Newton?

BlackHelicopters · 11-19-2013, 02:55 PM

Cam is no Alex Smith

**Saul Good** · 12-23-2013, 11:06 AM

This thread still delivers.

**Saul Good** · 11-30-2015, 07:36 PM

Clay's Osweiler thread reminded me of this gem...

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Originally Posted by COchief

No way, he is a future Vince Young/Jamarcus. You can see the mental breakdowns already. Doesn't matter how much talent he has, his brain will prevent him from ever being a winner. He put up some amazing stats in his rookie year but his record was still pitiful.

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Anyone who votes no is out of their mind.

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Originally Posted by COchief

Alright shitstain: 40tds in two seasons equals an average of 31 tds a year? Try 40/2 reerun. He also has 29 ints in that time with an above average qb rating of 85ish (Fitzpatrick pulled an 83 last season) and two losing seasons. Not to mention what 4-5 public meltdowns/crying like a baby after losses. Most of his stats are garbage time anyway.

Swag doesn't win football games douchebag, just ask huge dorks E Manning, P Manning, Roth, and Flacco.

PASSING
Year Team G Att Comp Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD TD% Int Int% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck SckY Rate
2012 Carolina Panthers 16 485 280 57.7 30.3 3,869 8.0 241.8 19 3.9 12 2.5 82 57 11 36 244 86.2
2011 Carolina Panthers 16 517 310 60.0 32.3 4,051 7.8 253.2 21 4.1 17 3.3 91T 65 9 35 260 84.5
TOTAL 32 1,002 590 58.9 31.3 7,920 7.9 247.5 40 4.0 29 2.9 91 122 20 71 504 85.3

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Originally Posted by aturnis

No way in hell I'd take Newton for our first. Not a fan of his at all. Never was. He peaked his rookie year.

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Originally Posted by COchief

I know this will come to a shock to you as you are obviously convinced otherwise, but I am going to go ahead and break the news to you for your own good.

You're not very bright.

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Originally Posted by HotCarl

I can't believe how many Yes votes there are. I wouldn't even give our second for him.

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan

Cam is a gifted player no doubt but a rocket scientist he is not. As I mentioned in the gruden qb post John asked him what play did you run out there. His answer I don't know then he sees the color held up by o coordinator. Oh that's blue, gruden laughs and says you don't know the plays. He said we make it simple and hold up colors. Lol

You think this guy can learn the complicated reads of the Andy Reid west coast offense?

Once again I'll state it even clearer Hell No!

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Originally Posted by HotCarl

He's got a ten cent brain, which has been obvious since he was at Auburn, and it doesn't matter how cheap a waste is, it's still a waste.

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

JFC I can't believe some of you voted yes.

It should be obvious at this point that Cam is a head case and doesn't have upstairs what is needed to be a really elite level guy. He's never going to be elite. I don't care about his stats, he's not a winner. He's not a Brees or Rodgers or Eli. He's not. Some of you have lost your ****ing twat minds.

Playing QB isn't just about physical talent, it's also about all of those intangibles that Cam does not have.

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Originally Posted by HotCarl

Newton is more like vince young than anyone is ready to admit yet, but it's the same story. He's a headcase who won games at the college level with athleticism, but the NFL exposed the fact that he doesn't really know how to play the QB position.

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Originally Posted by Scrawny Armed Alex Smith

I picture Cam losing his cool someday and doing something really, really, really stupid.

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Originally Posted by Planetman

He throws only roughly 25% more TDs than INTs? Ummm ... No!

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Anyone who thinks Cam would be worth giving up the #1 overall for. That's who.

A truly great QB elevates his team to win. Newton celebrates scoring a touchdown in a blowout. The dude is an idiot. And so are you and the other pillowbiter in this thread clamoring for him.

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

It's not just about his W/L record. Or the fact that he celebrates a really stupid ass celebration in a blowout. It's both of those things, and the interview with Gruden about how stupid he is. It's the fact that all of the markers on Newton coming out of college about him being a diva and dumb and a headcase are true.

I'm all for taking a QB with the first overall. But Newton is a proven commodity. A proven shitty one.

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

NO ! And Hell NO !! Cam is the black version of Jay Cutler when things don't go well during a game and no I'm not comparing physical QB skills but rather poor demeanor, lack of maturity and lack of leadership(it's all about ME !!) when adversity hits during a game as adversity always happens periodically during a game. Cam is the last F"N drama queen QB we need for our team and I don't care how physically gifted he is if you don't have maturity to endure the tough times( a la good leadership) physical skills don't mean sh** !!(See Jeff George, Vince Young, JaFatass, etc....)

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Cam Newton sucks. Those that voted yes are idiots.

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

There is no ****ing way I take Cam Newton over the possibility of drafting Geno Smith.

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Originally Posted by Scrawny Armed Alex Smith

Thats a little bit different than Cam Newtons laptop stealin' ass. Terrible comparison.

Deberg_1990 · 11-30-2015, 07:39 PM

Very informed, solid takes!

jonzie04 · 11-30-2015, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Clay's Osweiler thread reminded me of this gem...

holllllyyy shiiittt lol

ThaVirus · 11-30-2015, 08:30 PM

Whew. I was worried when this thread popped up.

I've never been a huge fan of Cam Newton.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-30-2015, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I said in a related thread that I'd take Newton over any NFL QB and the responses were typical CP nonsense.

This thread is comedy gold as well. Tyler Wilson???

Tyler Wilson has been out of the league for two years and Cam Newton currently QB's the 11-0 Panthers.

CP being CP.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-30-2015, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I've never been a huge fan of Cam Newton.

Shocking.

Even at 6'6, he's barely visible on your illegal stream.

Mother****erJones · 11-30-2015, 08:45 PM

Sacc

Mother****erJones · 11-30-2015, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Whew. I was worried when this thread popped up.

I've never been a huge fan of Cam Newton.

Wut? How?

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-30-2015, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

Wut? How?

He watches football illegally from a stream on an old 15" CRT so the broadcast is like 3x3.

His takes are worse than Clay's and far less informed.

Fantasy football has ruined most discussions in this forum.

Mother****erJones · 11-30-2015, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

He watches football illegally from a stream on an old 15" CRT so the broadcast like 3x3.

His takes are worse than Clay's and far less informed.

Fantasy football has ruined most discussions in this forum.

I like fantasy football itself, but it skews takes now and makes people ignorant now because it's all about the points and less about the player.

ThaVirus · 11-30-2015, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

Wut? How?

He threw a ton of INTs in his first few years despite not throwing a particularly large volume of passes. Completion percentage has always been extremely low.

More than that, watching him in the games he just never wowed me.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-30-2015, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

I like fantasy football itself, but it skews takes now and makes people ignorant now because it's all about the points and less about the player.

I stopped playing FF years ago because there were too many occasions in which I'd win the week, IF a Chiefs player played poorly. It just wasn't any fun.

The Chiefs are more important to me than FF or gambling, so I engage in neither.

ThaVirus · 11-30-2015, 08:55 PM

Dane's just pissy because he's never been able to debate with me. He's a classic case of arguing the poster, not the post.

He just can't let go.

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02-17-2013, 02:39 AM
HolyHat No mayonnaise for me today!!! Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $10005533	Would you trade the no. 1 pick for Cam Newton? We ran into this topic late Saturday night in another thread. I personally don't like Cam at all. He's got a ton of talent, but is an absolute idiot. He can't even learn a full playbook. Newton has put up some big numbers, but they haven't translated into a lot of wins. He is 13-19 as a starter over 2 years. 58.9% comp \| 7,920 yards pass \| 40 passing TDs \| 29 INTS \| 1,447 rush yards \| 22 rushing TDs \| Would you give up our no. 1 pick for Cam Newton? Last edited by HolyHat; 02-17-2013 at 02:51 AM..
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