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Old 04-12-2009, 11:02 AM   #11
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I'm pounding my fist because you keep insisting that Curry is an exception to the rule. Find me an example of an OLB who converted to play 3-4 DE. Lamar Woodley, James Harrison, Demarcus Ware, Greg Ellis, Manny Lawson, Parys Haralson, Kamerion Wimbley, Willie McGinest, Adalius Thomas, Mike Vrabel, Terrell Suggs, Jarrett Johnson, Jerry Porter, Matt Roth, Bryan Thomas, Calvin Pace. These are all the 3-4 OLBs in the NFL. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM played defensive end in college. And Harrison is the only one of them that is under 260 lbs.

I keep pounding my fist because you are suggesting that OLBs can convert to a 3-4 OLB. And I'm asking you to show me an example of when this actually worked? If it's so easy for big OLBs to move to 3-4 OLB, then why of the 16 3-4 OLBs are ZERO of them former OLBs? It's because in a 3-4 OLB role, rushing the passer takes priority over all the other things an OLB does. It's not good enough to be okay at rushing the passer. You have to be exceptional. Curry CAN rush the passer. But it's not a strength. Again, it's like asking a RB who occasionally caught a few passes in college but did it well to be an every-down receiver. Can Curry bullrush? Does he know the large assortment of pass rush moves like the swim move? Does he know how to fire off the snap? Curry spent his entire college career training to be a versatile linebacker. You are suggesting that he, an occasional pass rusher, has the same expertise as a college defensive end who practiced at the position for years. And that's a huge stretch.

We're talking about a #3 pick here. Curry has shown he can rush the passer, but can he do it exceptionally the majority of the downs? Haven't we learned our lesson about trying to make college players play out of position? There are 8 NFL teams that say that college OLBs don't make good 3-4 OLBs. 15 of 16 OLBs are over 260 lbs (Curry is not). For a 3-4 OLB, it's better to be a very good pass rusher who can learn to play average at the OLB position than an OLB who can learn to be an average pass rusher. Therefore, Curry does NOT belong on the outside in a 3-4. Nor does DJ. I will keep pounding my fist until you acknowledge that moving Curry to 3-4 OLB is not something NFL teams do.
I have never said he's the exception. Never said he could rush the passer. Only said there's no reason to think he cant. He's shown he can get in the backfield when asked.

Also said it dont matter. I'd take him either way.

I've also said that 4-3 LBs are not generally converted to 3-4 because of physical stature. You dont read what I say. You just pound the keyboard hoping that if you say the same thing over and over that it will apply.

But it doesn't. I'd take him at either position.
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