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Old 10-09-2012, 04:44 PM   #1
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He should've been CUT after a season where he had 27 TDs and 7 INTs?

Here's another stiff who had 27-7 in his third year that maybe you would've cut:

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(Drew Brees)?!
you came here to compare cassel to drew brees?

what the **** is wrong with pats fans?

why can't you simply admit that pioli and cassel are gigantic failures?
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:46 PM   #2
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you came here to compare cassel to drew brees?

what the **** is wrong with pats fans?
No, I'm not comparing Brees to Cassel. Cassel will NEVER be Brees. But that wasn't so clear after a very good 2010 season that Cassel had. Now that's clearly just a aberration.

But I'm pointing out how absurd it is to suggest cutting a guy who had 27 TDs and 7 INTs.

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why can't you simply admit that pioli and cassel are gigantic failures?

Cassel is a gigantic failure.

That's easy to say.

I think Pioli is on the edge of it, definitely. But I'm asking a simple question -- if his main sin is Cassel, then what realistic alternatives did he have? He correctly assessed, and rejected, Sanchez, which appears to have been the right move.
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No, I'm not comparing Brees to Cassel. Cassel will NEVER be Brees. But that wasn't so clear after a very good 2010 season that Cassel had. Now that's clearly just a aberration.

But I'm pointing out how absurd it is to suggest cutting a guy who had 27 TDs and 7 INTs.




Cassel is a gigantic failure.

That's easy to say.

I think Pioli is on the edge of it, definitely. But I'm asking a simple question -- if his main sin is Cassel, then what realistic alternatives did he have? He correctly assessed, and rejected, Sanchez, which appears to have been the right move.
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No, I'm not comparing Brees to Cassel. Cassel will NEVER be Brees. But that wasn't so clear after a very good 2010 season that Cassel had. Now that's clearly just a aberration.

But I'm pointing out how absurd it is to suggest cutting a guy who had 27 TDs and 7 INTs.




Cassel is a gigantic failure.

That's easy to say.

I think Pioli is on the edge of it, definitely. But I'm asking a simple question -- if his main sin is Cassel, then what realistic alternatives did he have? He correctly assessed, and rejected, Sanchez, which appears to have been the right move.
sanchez was obviously the right move, as 2 AFC championship games proves...he walked into your stadium and took a shit on your franchise

but feel free to compare his accomplishments to Cassel's...

and your comparison to brees is embarrassing...don't be that one dumb pats fan
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sanchez was obviously the right move, as 2 AFC championship games proves...he walked into your stadium and took a shit on your franchise
Dude....the only thing he's shitting is his pants.

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and your comparison to brees is embarrassing...don't be that one dumb pats fan

I'm the dumb one, not the guy saying cut him after a 27 TD, 7 INT season? You thought you KNEW after that season that there was no room for growth? He couldn't turn into a very good QB? He was just a pathetic POS useless turd of a QB? That was CERTAIN after a 27-7 season?

Your crystal ball must be really clear. You should play the lottery or something.
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Dude....the only thing he's shitting is his pants.




I'm the dumb one, not the guy saying cut him after a 27 TD, 7 INT season? You thought you KNEW after that season that there was no room for growth? He couldn't turn into a very good QB? He was just a pathetic POS useless turd of a QB? That was CERTAIN after a 27-7 season?

Your crystal ball must be really clear. You should play the lottery or something.
yes, i did now...and said so every god damn day at the top of my ****ing lungs

it was obvious before then...it was obvious from the beginning

but thanks for showing up and sucking cassel's dick on stage for us all...we've had quite enough of clueless pats fans trying to 'edumacate us'...

jesus **** this isn't happening
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He correctly assessed, and rejected, Sanchez, which appears to have been the right move.
Again: You cannot say Sanchez would have performed or developed the same on another team.

Certainly a more talented team at this point, for sure.

NY has no receivers or running game.
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Again: You cannot say Sanchez would have performed or developed the same on another team.

Certainly a more talented team at this point, for sure.

NY has no receivers or running game.

So Pioli has built a better team (outside of the QB position) than the Jets the last few years? Jets have VERY clearly declined the last 2-3 years. Tannenbaum/Ryan could also be in trouble. Of course, they're having really bad luck with injuries as well (Revis and Holmes, obviously).
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So Pioli has built a better team (outside of the QB position) than the Jets the last few years? Jets have VERY clearly declined the last 2-3 years. Tannenbaum/Ryan could also be in trouble. Of course, they're having really bad luck with injuries as well (Revis and Holmes, obviously).
I don't care. This team sucks. Fire everyone. Stop trying to defending Patriot shitdicks. Pioli is just another Mangini.
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I don't care. This team sucks. Fire everyone. Stop trying to defending Patriot shitdicks. Pioli is just another Mangini.

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You know it's true. Your boy Romeo is a walking pile of pus, too. Why Pioli thought he should be a head coach again is a ****ing mystery.
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Cassel is a gigantic failure.

That's easy to say.

I think Pioli is on the edge of it, definitely. But I'm asking a simple question -- if his main sin is Cassel, then what realistic alternatives did he have? He correctly assessed, and rejected, Sanchez, which appears to have been the right move.
Its the failure to give up like Phil said. Anyone that has watched Cassel preform that has a modicum of football IQ can tell this is not a guy that is a starting QB. Even Shannon Sharpe said this guy can't play.

But Pioli has forced out one head coach and will probably cost another head coach his job because they had no chance at all. Being stuck with Cassel is like having a 7 high hand in poker and going all in. Its demonstrably stupid.
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No, I'm not comparing Brees to Cassel. Cassel will NEVER be Brees. But that wasn't so clear after a very good 2010 season that Cassel had. Now that's clearly just a aberration.

But I'm pointing out how absurd it is to suggest cutting a guy who had 27 TDs and 7 INTs.




Cassel is a gigantic failure.

That's easy to say.

I think Pioli is on the edge of it, definitely. But I'm asking a simple question -- if his main sin is Cassel, then what realistic alternatives did he have? He correctly assessed, and rejected, Sanchez, which appears to have been the right move.
There were plenty of people who weren't high on Cassel when he came here and never bought into him in 2010. It's a lot about mechanics and understanding what makes a QB good. Cassel was going to have to be Brady-good or Montana-good between the ears to make his lack of physical talent work. Those guys got it right away. It was just a low probability bet, and he should know better.
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