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Old 08-22-2021, 02:21 PM   #1
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There's still time for him to "get it." He has yet to cross an age threshold or anything like that where if he doesn't consistently exhibit reliable traits then he'll never have them.

Sometimes those kinds of preseason games against the Cards are exactly what players like him need. A **** ton of targets as the #1 guy in a game (or a game scenario at least) where his struggles become easily identifiable. Yeah, they're the same struggles he's had in the past, and it's all stuff he's heard before from coaches, but people learn in weird ways. Sometimes a glaring real world demonstration of those lessons is the only thing that gets people to flip the switch.

Not saying it's all gravy now, but I think the Cards game was fantastic experience for him, and it's better that kind of moment happens now than in the regular season.
Great post.

You also bring up a great point that is being overlooked.

Hardman was essentially the #1 WR for that game. Just because he’s clearly not ready for that, doesn’t mean he’s not ready for the role he will be playing week 1. He’s looked ready for the latter in camp, and I’m at least waiting to see him for a few full games in that role before I throw the towel on his 3rd year that hasn’t even begun.
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Old 08-22-2021, 02:37 PM   #2
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He plays lazy and stupid at times. It doesn't matter where you put him on the depth chart, the same problems will persist. I don't know what else the coaching staff/Mahomes can do with him outside of accepting he's a nifty little gadget until he pulls his head out of his ass. I'd hoped the absolute travesty of a performance he put on during the Super Bowl would've woken him up somewhat but he's still pulling the same shit thus far in preseason. Very disheartening to watch considering we really need him to step up into that role.
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He plays lazy and stupid at times. It doesn't matter where you put him on the depth chart, the same problems will persist. I don't know what else the coaching staff/Mahomes can do with him outside of accepting he's a nifty little gadget until he pulls his head out of his ass. I'd hoped the absolute travesty of a performance he put on during the Super Bowl would've woken him up somewhat but he's still pulling the same shit thus far in preseason. Very disheartening to watch considering we really need him to step up into that role.
I don't think he's too bright. Both in football IQ and in general.

Georgia public schools, what can you do? He came from rural Georgia FFS.

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We're talking about a guy who had less than 1,000 yards receiving in college.

He's beating the odds just doing what he is doing now.
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Old 08-22-2021, 02:46 PM   #4
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Hardman has only been playing WR for 4 years (2 in college/2 in the NFL), iirc. This is the start of his 5th season as a WR, right? And last season was laced with COVID, and everything that went with that. Still willing to cut him a break, for now.

Also, at least two of those passes vs. the Cards were uncatchable, by anyone not named Calvin Johnson.
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Old 08-22-2021, 03:08 PM   #5
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The thing about an Andy Reid offense is that it is ever evolving meaning he designs plays with the players in mind not the system. Guys move around presnap so a guy can line up as a #2 WR but really then turns into a tailback and flips the ball to Kelce for a touchdown in the endzone. Obviously that's a made up play but it's an example of what Andy Reid does for his offense. Once you predict it it's going evolve. So Hardman fits perfect in Andy Reid offense and he can be a gadget player & or #2 and still help us win ****ing games so why the **** you guys complaining?




I really don't get the hate for Hardman just because of his draft slot wasn't his fault Veach pulled the trigger to get him a raw WR with lots of potential. Hardman needs coached up and disciplined he has both of that in camp and players making them accountable for each other.
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If Hardman Sucks Out Loud this season he will get cut and replaced by Veach it's as simple as that. Until then let's watch these guys put on a show and win some ****ing games.
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Old 08-22-2021, 02:59 PM   #7
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Yeah, he can't be bothered to run through his routes or turn his head to look for the ball because of COVID...
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Old 08-22-2021, 03:01 PM   #8
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Won a SuperBowl his Rookie year...

I wonder how many of those scenarios allow players to lose a bit of desire to put in that extra work.
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Won a SuperBowl his Rookie year...

I wonder how many of those scenarios allow players to lose a bit of desire to put in that extra work.
That's why Mahomes and others need to stay on players like Hardman. If you don't want to be to put in extra work to be a part of championship teams then expect to get chewed out by us and if you still don't want want then we don't want you here.
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That's why Mahomes and others need to stay on players like Hardman. If you don't want to be to put in extra work to be a part of championship teams then expect to get chewed out by us and if you still don't want want then we don't want you here.

Take it from Tyrann Mathieu on Mecole

https://fox4kc.com/sports/chiefs/tyr...no-2-receiver/

Tyrann Mathieu: Mecole Hardman taking things ‘personal’ as No. 2 receiver



I don't get why Chiefs fans don't want to give the kid a chance when his teammates thinks he is working his ass off?
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Kelce and Hill have tremendous chemistry with Mahomes. That's what's missing. I'm not sure it can be fixed honestly. We need a highly athletic instinctive WR. That's what Patrick likes. Mecole just doesn't have that feel.
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Kelce and Hill have tremendous chemistry with Mahomes. That's what's missing. I'm not sure it can be fixed honestly. We need a highly athletic instinctive WR. That's what Patrick likes. Mecole just doesn't have that feel.


I call false on your statement. It takes dedication and commitment and this is his third year to develop that chemistry. Holy ****ing shit.


How long has Kelce been in the league? and Tyreek is a freak you won't find anywhere.
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I call false on your statement. It takes dedication and commitment and this is his third year to develop that chemistry. Holy ****ing shit.


How long has Kelce been in the league? and Tyreek is a freak you won't find anywhere.
Even in 2018, Mahomes first year starting, him, Kelce and Hill had basically no chemistry issues together. It sure as hell didn't take 3 years
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Even in 2018, Mahomes first year starting, him, Kelce and Hill had basically no chemistry issues together. It sure as hell didn't take 3 years

For the record you are saying Mahomes and Hardman can't and won't develop chemistry together because in a pre season game they didn't connect on two errant throws by Patrick Mahomes II? Or that they just never had that chemistry together so therefor they will never get chemistry?
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For you Mecole Hardman haters I have a question.




Can a player get better in his third year or not?
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