Chiefs Chiefs sticking with spread offense? - Page 3

FringeNC · 03-10-2009, 09:44 AM

The spread can allow teams with poor offensive lines to move the ball between the 20s, as the Chiefs clearly demonstrated last year. However, in the red zone, it's tough to score with a poor offensive line no matter what the offensive formation. The Chiefs sucked in the red zone last year because of a poor offensive line, not because of the spread.

beach tribe · 03-10-2009, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Well, this sucks.... you guys took this WAY better than I expected. I was thinking I was going to get flamed big time. LOL.

I was expecting far more ingorant responses than I have gotten.

Don't worry, we still think your and idiot.

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-10-2009, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Don't worry, we still think your and idiot.

Thanks, I needed that.

beach tribe · 03-10-2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Thanks, I needed that.

toast. No problem.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-10-2009, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Well, this sucks.... you guys took this WAY better than I expected. I was thinking I was going to get flamed big time. LOL.

I was expecting far more ingorant responses than I have gotten.

So you admit to starting shit-storm threads? You do you know.

So here's my response, and it's one I know you were hoping for:

"Oh golly! I sure hope they do, because it would validate both the spread AND me, Nonsensical Chiefs Fan, and I would be right, right, RIGHT"!

(For once).

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-10-2009, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

So you admit to starting shit-storm threads? You do you know.

So here's my response, and it's one I know you were hoping for:

"Oh golly! I sure hope they do, because it would validate both the spread AND me, Nonsensical Chiefs Fan, and I would be right, right, RIGHT"!

(For once).

Um, if shit-storm threads are ones that should provoke thought and conversation, then YES I do try to start them.

Actually, I don't really care about being right. Predicting what will happen does not mean you 'know' football. Many guys who predict all sorts of things know football. There are a myriad of factors that go into any decision the Chiefs make.

I do care about raising the level of understanding about football on this board. I would like to have intelligent conversation about my football team with other informed fans. They do not have to think like me, but I would prefer that their opinions come from logic based thought, and now some half assed radio sports jock.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-10-2009, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Um, if shit-storm threads are ones that should provoke thought and conversation, then YES I do try to start them.

Actually, I don't really care about being right. Predicting what will happen does not mean you 'know' football. Many guys who predict all sorts of things know football. There are a myriad of factors that go into any decision the Chiefs make.

I do care about raising the level of understanding about football on this board. I would like to have intelligent conversation about my football team with other informed fans. They do not have to think like me, but I would prefer that their opinions come from logic based thought, and now some half assed radio sports jock.

No.

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-10-2009, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

No.

Sorry, but aren't you the same guy trying to argue that the Cassel/Vrabel deal had something to do with the other two players the Chiefs brought in? You argued that it was freed up roster/cap space when in fact those moves had NO bearing on the Pats cap or roster situation.

It is THIS kind of ignorance that I will work to eliminate.

Now, we can argue about what physical tools a player has. That is a matter of opinion. Many things are matters of opinions. But, lets please at least try to get the facts right.

Not to say I am always right on my facts. I make mistakes like anyone else... but lets own our mistakes, and then work to do better.

Demonpenz · 03-10-2009, 09:43 AM

We need better Offensive line play the times we did run there was nothing there 10 yards in, forcing us to throw a jump ball to bowe or TG every play

Sully · 03-10-2009, 09:56 AM

Neither of those teams ran the "spread."
They also didn't run the "Run 'n' Shoot."

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-10-2009, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sully

Neither of those teams ran the "spread."
They also didn't run the "Run 'n' Shoot."

They didn't run the spread option, but they did run the spread offense.

Sully · 03-10-2009, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

They didn't run the spread option, but they did run the spread offense.

New England and Arizona didn't.
Kansas City, at times, did.

The shotgun does not = the spread.

RustShack · 03-10-2009, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sully

New England and Arizona didn't.
Kansas City, at times, did.

The shotgun does not = the spread.

I giggle when people say the Patriots and Cardinals run the spread.

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-10-2009, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

I giggle when people say the Patriots and Cardinals run the spread.

I laugh when people try to say they didn't. It is clear that they have a limited understanding of what the spread offense actually is. I laugh even harder at those ignorant people who think they are laughing at more informed people.

But, ignorance is bliss, so that must be why those people are giggling.

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-10-2009, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

I giggle when people say the Patriots and Cardinals run the spread.

I just googled spread offense. I figured I would put in a few links to try to educate some folks.

Just an overview of the spread:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spread_offense

Specific mention of the Pats running the spread:

http://media.www.tnhonline.com/media...-3467845.shtml

This is from NFL.Com an is a preview of the Colts vs Pats in 2007, and it says specifically, that the Pats have gone to a spread offense.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/previe...2007&week=REG9

Now, see, the point is that spread option is not the only spread offense. The Chiefs did use the spread option at times last year, but that isn't the only reason they were a spread offense.

Now, hopefully, we can get the 'giggling' out of the way and have a serious football discussion based on FACTS.

03-10-2009, 09:44 AM	#1
FringeNC MVP Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: NC Casino cash: $-1793986	The spread can allow teams with poor offensive lines to move the ball between the 20s, as the Chiefs clearly demonstrated last year. However, in the red zone, it's tough to score with a poor offensive line no matter what the offensive formation. The Chiefs sucked in the red zone last year because of a poor offensive line, not because of the spread.
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Demonpenz Woman should only make babies Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Apartment "G UNIT!" Casino cash: $-423864	We need better Offensive line play the times we did run there was nothing there 10 yards in, forcing us to throw a jump ball to bowe or TG every play __________________
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03-10-2009, 09:56 AM	#10
Sully It Goes On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lees Summit Casino cash: $10026331	Neither of those teams ran the "spread." They also didn't run the "Run 'n' Shoot." __________________ "And I don't wish that girl any bad luck," he said, "but I hope she gets hit with a car." - Tommy Lasorda
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