Football Shawn Zobel: Lions are in serious dealings with Cassel - Page 5

**Tribal Warfare** · 02-20-2009, 09:30 PM

Inside Info

February 20th, 2009 Shawn Posted in Zobel's Blog |

I had the chance to speak with one of my sources down here in Indianapolis. Here’s what he had to say:

- The Lions are currently seriously considering dealing for Patriots quarterback Matt Cassel. According to my source, New England is “actively looking to deal him.”

- Malcolm Jenkins’ 40-yard dash is going to be one of the biggest of the Combine. If he runs a 4.5 or slower, many teams will feel that his best fit at the next level will be safety. There’s talk that he could slide to the middle-to-late first round.

- The Broncos new staff is not going to continue to draft the smaller, quicker offensive linemen. They are looking to get somewhat bigger along the offensive line.

- If Knowshon Moreno runs a 4.4 40-yard dash or faster, he could be the first running back taken…followed by Pitt’s LeSean McCoy.

- Andre Smith’s stock is dropping. Teams are not happy that he decided not to work. Based solely on today, Jason Smith is beginning to look like one of the top tackles in this year’s draft.

- The Vikings talking about keeping both Gus Frerotte and Tarvaris Jackson could mean that they plan on drafting another quarterback this year. With Josh Freeman creeping into the first round discussion, he could be an option.

beach tribe · 02-20-2009, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Well, it would be if he weren't really interested,

Ugh yeah. That's kinda the point.

beach tribe · 02-21-2009, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

What did I do?

Talked over dumbasses like chiefzill, and nonsensiblechiefsfan, and helped our friend see the light. It's abeautiful thing. Anybody who thinks we should pass on one of the 2 QBs is fuqin moron. There I said it.

Just Passin' By · 02-21-2009, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Ugh yeah. That's kinda the point.

I understand. I was laying it out just for the Lions, but it might do something else for the Chiefs which I was going to put in as an alternative before I clicked "submit" by mistake. I was going to say that it might also put the Chiefs in a position where they might be able to trade down if Sanchez is the team's preferred quarterback, because a team that wanted Stafford but wasn't willing to pay for the #1 slot might be more willing to pay for the #3 slot. After all, if either QB gets past the Chiefs, the board is set up in such a way that the quarterback could conceivably fall all the way to the Jets if no trades got made.

**DeezNutz** · 02-21-2009, 12:07 AM

It was the rhetorical brilliance of the Roberto Alomar tree.

FAX · 02-21-2009, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

... Cassel's quite likely for real.....

Oh, I'm not suggesting that he isn't, Mr. Just Passin' By. He may very well be the most realest deal of all times. The thing is that nobody really knows for sure. Granted, he played well last season, but look at the talent around him - not to mention the coaching staff. NE has successfully positioned him as something very special and other teams are sniffing at the bait. It's a remarkable and admirable effort on their part and franchising him was icing on the Cassel cake.

Of course, Mr. philfree is right, but even considering the current quarterback shortage, NE has promoted him both subtly and skillfully enough to make The Donald proud.

FAX

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-21-2009, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

It was the rhetorical brilliance of the Roberto Alomar tree.

ArrowheadMagic · 02-21-2009, 12:14 AM

Would be a win/win for KC if this trade came about. Similar skill sets with one having more experience. Think the right pick for KC is QB, easier to fill the many holes in later rounds. Doesnt mean I dont think Thigpen cant and shouldnt be developed, but its a position you cant be wrong on. IMO, the ceiling on Stafford/Sanchez are higher than Thigpen's, which means you upgrade.

Just Passin' By · 02-21-2009, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX

Oh, I'm not suggesting that he isn't, Mr. Just Passin' By. He may very well be the most realest deal of all times. The thing is that nobody really knows for sure. Granted, he played well last season, but look at the talent around him - not to mention the coaching staff. NE has successfully positioned him as something very special and other teams are sniffing at the bait. It's a remarkable and admirable effort on their part and franchising him was icing on the Cassel cake.

Of course, Mr. philfree is right, but even considering the current quarterback shortage, NE has promoted him both subtly and skillfully enough to make The Donald proud.

FAX

I'm with you on this. I watched every Patriots game and I still don't know if he's legitimate. As a 'scout/GM' for other teams, I'd feel a lot more confident if he'd beaten Pittsburgh. I know that he had the team in position to open that game up until Moss dropped a sure touchdown pass, but I'd liked to have seen him rally the team to overcome that.

A similar thing happened in the Chargers game earlier in the season. To me, it's probably the biggest red flag I'd have if I were thinking of trading for him.

blueballs · 02-21-2009, 12:24 AM

The Pats would MUCH rather **** the Jets

BigChiefFan · 02-21-2009, 12:32 AM

If we can get Stafford, we pull the trigger. I heard Stafford had dinner with the Lions last night, sounds like the Lions may have made up their minds.

**Kyle DeLexus** · 02-21-2009, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

If we can get Stafford, we pull the trigger. I heard Stafford had dinner with the Lions last night, sounds like the Lions may have made up their minds.

WTF is Stafford in Africa or something? Someone needs to tell that kid it's not safe to be eating with wild animals, didn't he learn anything from the chimp thing? He needs to stop taking risks like that we need him under center next season!

BigChiefFan · 02-21-2009, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MWagg72

WTF is Stafford in Africa or something? Someone needs to tell that kid it's not safe to be eating with wild animals, didn't he learn anything from the chimp thing? He needs to stop taking risks like that we need him under center next season!

Some have already annoited him King Daniel, it seems.

ArrowheadMagic · 02-21-2009, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

If we can get Stafford, we pull the trigger. I heard Stafford had dinner with the Lions last night, sounds like the Lions may have made up their minds.

there's little doubt they intend to upgrade at the QB position. just depends on how they intend to do it. Cassell isnt a horrible option, but they have a vet they can afford to sit one of the rookies behind and still grab a LT with their 2nd 1st rd pick, then grab a LB at the top of the 2nd. Minnesota is the team that thinks they are a QB away from a serious run that makes a play for Cassell.

**Smed1065** · 02-21-2009, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

There would be some great Stafford vs. Sanchez threads if this were to go down.

Guess that is a MOP.

Matter of opinion.

**Smed1065** · 02-21-2009, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Claythan

This shit be pimp as hell.

I am sure Nick "Assclown" Athan already reported this because he has the "insider" info.

02-20-2009, 09:30 PM
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