Other Sports Reaction to Marcus smart shoving a fan

kevonm · 02-09-2014, 07:23 PM

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Except I've said many times I take issue with Smart resorting to the shove and have said that he deserves a suspension.

How about the fan being accountable for theirs?

I take issue with the fact that smart only gets 3 games and the fan volunteers to sit out the season.

KC_Connection · 02-09-2014, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kevonm

I take issue with the fact that smart only gets 3 games and the fan volunteers to sit out the season.

I take issue with Tech letting the fan volunteer to sit out the season. He should have been banned from the games instead.

Of course, that's what happens when you're a booster.

kevonm · 02-09-2014, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I take issue with Tech letting the fan volunteer to sit out the season. He should have been banned from the games instead.

Of course, that's what happens when you're a booster.

So the fan gets a stiffer punishment than the player who shoved him?
Of course that is what happens when you are a star player

KC_Connection · 02-09-2014, 07:34 PM

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So the fan gets a stiffer punishment than the player who shoved him?

Yep, fan accountability. The 50 year old asshole who personally insults college athletes at games is the guy who should truly be ashamed by his actions here.

kevonm · 02-09-2014, 07:40 PM

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Yep, fan accountability. The 50 year old asshole who personally insults college athletes at games is the guy who should truly be ashamed by his actions here.

Fan accountability? I have never heard that phrase. You really think that is the precedent? Should colleges police all things said by fans? How are the Antlers still attending games?

KC_Connection · 02-09-2014, 07:46 PM

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Fan accountability? I have never heard that phrase. You really think that is the precedent? Should colleges police all things said by fans? How are the Antlers still attending games?

I don't think fans should be able to say whatever the hell they want to athletes without repercussions. Especially college athletes. I think any reasonable person would agree.

a pp roach · 02-09-2014, 07:49 PM

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I don't think fans should be able to say whatever the hell they want to athletes without repercussions. Especially college athletes. I think any reasonable person would agree.

yeah, seriously. these guys were in high school not long ago and if you have kids of your own they will be that age/are that age/have been that age and should be able to relate in SOME way, since a parent has been that age also.

kevonm · 02-09-2014, 08:10 PM

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I don't think fans should be able to say whatever the hell they want to athletes without repercussions. Especially college athletes. I think any reasonable person would agree.

Yes they would, where they would not agree is who should be punished more severely.

Why are you so sure he didn't just call him a piece of crap? The fan admitted to saying something vaguely supported by video (audio really) evidence.

Fansy the Famous Bard · 02-09-2014, 07:48 PM

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Yep, fan accountability. The 50 year old asshole who personally insults college athletes at games is the guy who should truly be ashamed by his actions here.

See, this is where I'm not sure how anyone can take you seriously on this, man. You act like this type of fan behavior is not normal.

Certain fanbases (who shall remain unnamed) actually have groups in their midst that take pride in being derogatory and personal. As an example, will call the player 24\7 for the week leading up to the game in an attempt to harass them.. they will hold up signs about their dead relatives in the games... etc etc...

And this was within this very conference in recent history. This guy calling a kid a "piece of crap" or whatever is far from the worst thing that will happen or has ever happened even to Marcus Smart. Marcus lost his temper (this is becoming the norm with him) because of what was happening on the court, and used this guy as a target for his fury.

It is out of the norm for an athlete to do this.

KC_Connection · 02-09-2014, 07:50 PM

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See, this is where I'm not sure how anyone can take you seriously on this, man. You act like this is not normal.

Certain fanbases (who shall remain unnamed) actually have groups in their midst that take pride in being derogatory and personal. As an example, will call the player 24\7 for the week leading up to the game in an attempt to harass them.. they will hold up signs about their dead relatives in the games... etc etc...

And this was within this very conference in recent history. This guy calling a kid a "piece of crap" or whatever is far from the worst thing that will happen or has ever happened even to Marcus Smart. Marcus lost his temper (this is becoming the norm with him) because of what was happening on the court, and used this guy as a target for his fury.

It is out of the norm for an athlete to do this.

I know it's normal. I've been to these games in a multiplicity of locations. I've seen the hateful, juvenile, often racist shit that people yell at these athletes during games. And it's that fact that is exactly what disgusts me the most and what I take issue with. They should not be allowed to do so. Whether he called Smart a piece of crap (which sounds like total bullshit to me) or something far worse, it shouldn't be acceptable at all.

Fansy the Famous Bard · 02-09-2014, 07:56 PM

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I know it's normal. I've been to these games in a multiplicity of locations. I've seen the hateful, juvenile, often racist shit that people yell at these athletes during games. And it's that fact that is exactly what disgusts me the most and what I take issue with. They should not be allowed to do so. Whether he called Smart a piece of crap (which sounds like total bullshit to me) or something far worse, it shouldn't be acceptable at all.

And this is one of your points that I fully agree with (which I stated earlier).

Time for some Walking Dead!

jspchief · 02-09-2014, 07:39 PM

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So the fan gets a stiffer punishment than the player who shoved him?
Of course that is what happens when you are a star player

Stiffer by what measure? Let's not act like attending a game to cheer is of equal value to playing in that game.

kevonm · 02-09-2014, 07:44 PM

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Stiffer by what measure? Let's not act like attending a game to cheer is of equal value to playing in that game.

That is a fair point, but let's not act like heckling is equal to shoving.

Fansy the Famous Bard · 02-09-2014, 07:41 PM

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I take issue with Tech letting the fan volunteer to sit out the season. He should have been banned from the games instead.

Of course, that's what happens when you're a booster.

Well, to be fair... I'd give it a bit more time on the booster's side of this. TT is still investigating this, They probably talked to him and had a couple of cronies say "oh no, he said nothing derogatory". That's all they have to work with so far, possibly. The Big XII on the other hand has video evidence of Smart's actions and can jump on it right away.

The booster was probably asked to step away while the School looks into it... We might hear something about it in the future if more conclusive evidence is presented, more than likely there won't be any (outside of the one video which is left to conjecture). We probably won't hear much about it again.

KC_Connection · 02-09-2014, 07:48 PM

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Well, to be fair... I'd give it a bit more time on the booster's side of this. TT is still investigating this, They probably talked to him and had a couple of cronies say "oh no, he said nothing derogatory". That's all they have to work with so far, possibly. The Big XII on the other hand has video evidence of Smart's actions and can jump on it right away.

The booster was probably asked to step away while the School looks into it... We might hear something about it in the future if more conclusive evidence is presented, more than likely there won't be any (outside of the one video which is left to conjecture). We probably won't hear much about it again.

So if there is so much that is uncertain about it (and I would agree that there is), why even come out with that bullshit statement and a video that proves nothing right now? Why not wait for something certain?

What is the point of it all (you know, other than to make your University and booster look better)?