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Old 02-09-2014, 01:50 PM  
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Reaction to Marcus smart shoving a fan

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Just curious... If the fan called Smart a racial slur, was he justified for shoving the fan.

I think its an interesting debate about where the line should be drawn for fans to get away with jawing at players. Let's first see if there's any truth to this. My personal opinion is that sports should have leeway for fan behavior, but there's a line that fans too often cross.
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Old 02-10-2014, 08:34 PM   #421
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texas tech is not a real school.
Your point of view might mean something if your hate for Texas Tech wasn't so obvious.
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Old 02-10-2014, 08:35 PM   #422
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No, he's being punished for pushing a fan. And there was no precedent for that in college basketball, as far as I know. Why is the 3 games a surprise there? Why does it mean anything with regard to this?


What is your stake in defending a guy who has a history of taunting and insulting college athletes?
I'm not defending anyone, other than pointing out the obvious. Smart slandered a guy to justify his own little kid mentality.
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Old 02-10-2014, 08:36 PM   #423
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Your point of view might mean something if your hate for Texas Tech wasn't so obvious.
And your point of view might mean something if you weren't basing it off of the sand aggies playing pr and an inconclusive video.
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Old 02-10-2014, 08:38 PM   #424
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If Tech had come out and said "we interviewed all media members in the area and fans around the incident and they all said Orr called Smart the N-word", KC Connection would be all over this. It would be nothing but "see, Orr is a racist and should be banned from all future Tech games."
This hypothetical doesn't exactly make sense, though, because Tech would never do this. It has a vested interest in defending the reputation of the institution and its fans (and apparently it felt that it had to stand behind their asshole booster as well).
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Old 02-10-2014, 08:39 PM   #425
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And your point of view might mean something if you weren't basing it off of the sand aggies playing pr and an inconclusive video.
Jesus Christ dude, we get it. You hate Texas Tech. That's great for you. I really don't give a shit about Texas Tech, Marcus Smart, Orr, or OSU. I'm just calling this situation how I see it based on the evidence in front of me.
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Old 02-10-2014, 08:41 PM   #426
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I'm not defending anyone, other than pointing out the obvious. Smart slandered a guy to justify his own little kid mentality.
Except I could just as easily say that the fan came up with a bullshit excuse (piece of crap? That's seriously what he texted after the game saying he felt bad about going too far after getting shoved? ) to cover up his own racist comment and it would ring just as true right now. That's because there's no evidence either way.

But it's good to know you've got it all figured out, though. Your own personal agenda was exposed on your first post when you accused Smart of this very same thing without knowing any of the facts about the situation.
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Old 02-10-2014, 08:44 PM   #427
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Jesus Christ dude, we get it. You hate Texas Tech. That's great for you. I really don't give a shit about Texas Tech, Marcus Smart, Orr, or OSU. I'm just calling this situation how I see it based on the evidence in front of me.
The evidence isn't conclusive one way or the other. That video doesn't prove shit. The Sand Aggies covering their own ass and backing a guy that probably gives tens of thousands of dollars a year to them doesn't prove shit either.
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Old 02-10-2014, 08:44 PM   #428
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Except I could just as easily say that the fan came up with a bullshit excuse (piece of crap? That's seriously what he texted after the game saying he felt bad about going too far after getting shoved? ) to cover up his own racist comment and it would ring just as true right now. That's because there's no evidence either way.

But it's good to know you've got it all figured out, though. Your own personal agenda was exposed on your first post when you accused Smart of this very same thing without knowing any of the facts about the situation.
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Old 02-10-2014, 08:46 PM   #429
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Old 02-10-2014, 08:46 PM   #430
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This hypothetical doesn't exactly make sense, though, because Tech would never do this. It has a vested interest in defending the reputation of the institution and its fans (and apparently it felt that it had to stand behind their asshole booster as well).
OSU and Smart don't have a vested interest in trying to show Smart in the best light possible after his poor decision?

If Tech had any evidence that a racial slur was said, they'd be foolish to try to cover that up. With all the technology today they have no idea if somebody has this recorded on their phone. If they back Orr based on "doctored" evidence or a shoddy investigation and then something comes out proving Orr did use a racial slur, they would look extremely stupid.
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Except I could just as easily say that the fan came up with a bullshit excuse (piece of crap? That's seriously what he texted after the game saying he felt bad about going too far after getting shoved? ) to cover up his own racist comment and it would ring just as true right now. That's because there's no evidence either way.

But it's good to know you've got it all figured out, though. Your own personal agenda was exposed on your first post when you accused Smart of this very same thing without knowing any of the facts about the situation.
Well, now I do know just as many facts about the situation as you do, and I still think that's what happened. I just don't need to post 75 times in this thread to pretend I care as much as you do about it.
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Old 02-10-2014, 08:48 PM   #433
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OSU and Smart don't have a vested interest in trying to show Smart in the best light possible after his poor decision?

If Tech had any evidence that a racial slur was said, they'd be foolish to try to cover that up. With all the technology today they have no idea if somebody has this recorded on their phone. If they back Orr based on "doctored" evidence or a shoddy investigation and then something comes out proving Orr did use a racial slur, they would look extremely stupid.
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Orr was wrong, Smart was wrong...

Game over....

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