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Old 01-05-2022, 08:48 AM   #1
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I don't deny that they charge that much. I just don't know why anyone would pay that much. I spent about $1500 on my wife's ring, and she keeps it in a drawer in favor of a $150 band we got that mirrors it because she thinks the real one is too fancy for daily use.

It's ridiculous how much society has bought into the diamond industry's hype. They're goddamn sparkly rocks.
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Old 01-05-2022, 09:47 AM   #2
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I don't deny that they charge that much. I just don't know why anyone would pay that much. I spent about $1500 on my wife's ring, and she keeps it in a drawer in favor of a $150 band we got that mirrors it because she thinks the real one is too fancy for daily use.

It's ridiculous how much society has bought into the diamond industry's hype. They're goddamn sparkly rocks.
I had to look it up.

I spent about 4 on the wife's. Since I was in the books, I looked up my wage, and it was about 2 months wages. Good lord I was a dork.

I'm in your camp, but the wife loves it and still wears it every day. Probably it means more to her than me. She's catholic and had our rings blessed, and that matters to her. My ring doesn't fit anymore (it was like a $200 tungsten ring), and there is less than no chance I'd wear it in my profession, but she told me years ago that if I get a new one the right size I need to get it blessed. So all this stuff means different stuff to her than me.

I think I need to go get a groove ring or whatever other silicone ring to not be a ****ing heathen and I actually do love my wife.
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Old 01-05-2022, 09:55 AM   #3
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I had to look it up.

I spent about 4 on the wife's. Since I was in the books, I looked up my wage, and it was about 2 months wages. Good lord I was a dork.

I'm in your camp, but the wife loves it and still wears it every day. Probably it means more to her than me. She's catholic and had our rings blessed, and that matters to her. My ring doesn't fit anymore (it was like a $200 tungsten ring), and there is less than no chance I'd wear it in my profession, but she told me years ago that if I get a new one the right size I need to get it blessed. So all this stuff means different stuff to her than me.

I think I need to go get a groove ring or whatever other silicone ring to not be a ****ing heathen and I actually do love my wife.
Bet it shows without the ring. Don't lose a finger.
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Old 01-05-2022, 11:12 AM   #4
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I had to look it up.

I spent about 4 on the wife's. Since I was in the books, I looked up my wage, and it was about 2 months wages. Good lord I was a dork.

I'm in your camp, but the wife loves it and still wears it every day. Probably it means more to her than me. She's catholic and had our rings blessed, and that matters to her. My ring doesn't fit anymore (it was like a $200 tungsten ring), and there is less than no chance I'd wear it in my profession, but she told me years ago that if I get a new one the right size I need to get it blessed. So all this stuff means different stuff to her than me.

I think I need to go get a groove ring or whatever other silicone ring to not be a ****ing heathen and I actually do love my wife.
Having to get it blessed adds a level of complexity I suppose. My own wedding ring cost like $125, but I wear a $10 ring daily because 1) it's a little more comfortable and 2) though the cost of the wedding ring is negligible, it does have some sentimental value, so if I lose one, I'd rather not lose that one.

The silicone ones are OK. Probably the best option if you're trying not to get your finger ripped off, but I don't like how they stick to your fingers a bit. Still, they cost like $10 for a five-pack if you want to try some on and see how you like it.
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Old 01-05-2022, 02:38 PM   #5
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I had to look it up.

I spent about 4 on the wife's. Since I was in the books, I looked up my wage, and it was about 2 months wages. Good lord I was a dork.

I'm in your camp, but the wife loves it and still wears it every day. Probably it means more to her than me. She's catholic and had our rings blessed, and that matters to her. My ring doesn't fit anymore (it was like a $200 tungsten ring), and there is less than no chance I'd wear it in my profession, but she told me years ago that if I get a new one the right size I need to get it blessed. So all this stuff means different stuff to her than me.

I think I need to go get a groove ring or whatever other silicone ring to not be a ****ing heathen and I actually do love my wife.
Cock ring and have her personally bless it
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Old 01-05-2022, 04:06 PM   #6
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I'll say this, and it's advice I'll at least give to my son and probably my daughters as well.

If something is important, act like it.

I've only known a few people who have gotten divorced in my circle of friends/family (I mean, excluding my parents and then my dad again), but to a person they did some chintzy wedding or got married at the courthouse.

If your marriage is disposable, sure - treat the wedding like it is. But if it's serious, treat it like it's serious. This goes for any event. I won't go to church without at least a jacket and damn sure won't do weddings or funerals without a suit, even if I'm not in them.

Now I do agree that things have gotten excessive in a lot of ways. But it was important to me that I make a sacrifice to get that ring. I ended up having to wait another 6-7 years to get a motorcycle because the money I'd have spent on it, I spent on her ring instead. I could've spent a couple hundred bucks and still been married, but again - if it's important, act like it.

I also understand people that think that's a load of shit. But I'm betting more of them end up divorced than people that look at it like I do. Put some skin in the game or how serious about this are you, really? And if you're not serious enough to make a sacrifice, you probably shouldn't be getting married.
I hold the same position. The way I phrase it is "pay it the respect it deserves."

The logical side of me says it doesn't ****ing matter. But the practical side of my life pretty much exclusively shows that if you do little shit (like dressing up for important shit) it does something to the psychology of yourself.

That being said, there is nuance and exceptions. Some people it doesn't change things psychology. RE: Divorce, some people can take it seriously and shit goes off the rails. People change, people weren't grown up enough to understand real life, shit happens. But I'd agree. Taking it seriously and doing "right" improves the probability of success.
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Old 01-05-2022, 04:49 PM   #7
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I hold the same position. The way I phrase it is "pay it the respect it deserves."

The logical side of me says it doesn't ****ing matter. But the practical side of my life pretty much exclusively shows that if you do little shit (like dressing up for important shit) it does something to the psychology of yourself.

That being said, there is nuance and exceptions. Some people it doesn't change things psychology. RE: Divorce, some people can take it seriously and shit goes off the rails. People change, people weren't grown up enough to understand real life, shit happens. But I'd agree. Taking it seriously and doing "right" improves the probability of success.
It's not the 'doing it right' that improves the probability, it's the willingness to do so. If your parents give you $10K to go buy a ring but your wife never knows, that doesn't mean anything - you've not demonstrated a fundamental commitment - it's no skin off your ass to spend daddy's money.

But those that ARE willing to do so and make sacrifices to get it done, are those that have put the requisite amount of thought and care in the decision in the first place.

The nicer ring and more substantial wedding is simply a byproduct of that level of commitment and dedication to the union. If it matters, you'll treat it as such. And you likely won't give it a second thought.

But as you and I appear to be the same person in a dozen different ways, I suspect you already understood all of that...
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Old 01-05-2022, 05:22 PM   #8
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It's not the 'doing it right' that improves the probability, it's the willingness to do so. If your parents give you $10K to go buy a ring but your wife never knows, that doesn't mean anything - you've not demonstrated a fundamental commitment - it's no skin off your ass to spend daddy's money.

But those that ARE willing to do so and make sacrifices to get it done, are those that have put the requisite amount of thought and care in the decision in the first place.

The nicer ring and more substantial wedding is simply a byproduct of that level of commitment and dedication to the union. If it matters, you'll treat it as such. And you likely won't give it a second thought.

But as you and I appear to be the same person in a dozen different ways, I suspect you already understood all of that...
Agreed. I like the term sacrifice you threw out there because it seems super counterintuitive to put a ton of focus on material things to represent love. But sacrifice is a good term for it. We value money and give up something we value for the one we love. Much better approach than focusing on shiny shit instead of what's important in the relationship - like how it seems in my head.

So thanks for closing that divide in my (our?) head.
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Old 01-05-2022, 11:49 AM   #9
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I don't deny that they charge that much. I just don't know why anyone would pay that much. I spent about $1500 on my wife's ring, and she keeps it in a drawer in favor of a $150 band we got that mirrors it because she thinks the real one is too fancy for daily use.

It's ridiculous how much society has bought into the diamond industry's hype. They're goddamn sparkly rocks.
Amen.
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I don't deny that they charge that much. I just don't know why anyone would pay that much. I spent about $1500 on my wife's ring, and she keeps it in a drawer in favor of a $150 band we got that mirrors it because she thinks the real one is too fancy for daily use.

It's ridiculous how much society has bought into the diamond industry's hype. They're goddamn sparkly rocks.
Not sure how true but I seem to have read somewhere that Diamonds are in no way rare, they keep finding them and keep mining them yet the value doesn't diminish on new ones. They are so common that there is far less cubic zirconium around than diamond and they can make that at will.
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