Chiefs Late game FG attempt - Page 2

O.city · 12-05-2022, 11:27 AM

Andy needs to quit using old school thinking in these situations. Going for the fg attempt there to tie, just not the right choice. Even without hindsight, it was to tie so you're giving the Bengals the ball back.

Don't ever take the ball out of Mahomes hands there. You have an easy way out even if he fails....."well we live and die with Pat so"......

The goal of that drive should have been to either tie it with less than 10 seconds to go or win it in similar fashion with like 30 seconds left.

**The Franchise** · 12-05-2022, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051

How close was Danna to disrupting Burrow when he pulled up?

The replays I saw looked like he could’ve gotten there or at least not allowed Burrow to get much on it.

Once that roughing the passer penalty happens....our DEs were scared to even breathe on Burrow. You don't want to have a 3rd and 11 at the end of the game end with a 1st down because the refs decided you were to rough on him.

chiefzilla1501 · 12-05-2022, 11:38 AM

I want to start by saying “I agree, we should have went for it.”

However I also kind of get it. I think Andy hoped we could get one more offensive possession. What he didn’t want was to lose the game with burrow running out the clock on a go ahead drive. I think we kicked so we can get the ball out of possession moreso than being afraid to go for it. If we make the FG and tie it, I think we could have gotten the ball back.

Love kelce to death but that fumble put Andy Reid in a horrible spot. And he made the worse of a lose lose situation. Hindsight is 20/20 but I think if we go for the TD, IF we get a td we give cincy the ball back with 2 minutes and they score just as easily as they did the rest of the game.

Mecca · 12-05-2022, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051

How close was Danna to disrupting Burrow when he pulled up?

The replays I saw looked like he could’ve gotten there or at least not allowed Burrow to get much on it.

#Bengals

The 3rd down throw from Burrow to close out the game…

Man-coverage underneath. Higgins on the slant route. Can see the ball location here. pic.twitter.com/fkVJwRu6OF
— Matt Bowen (@MattBowen41) December 5, 2022

**Iowanian** · 12-05-2022, 11:39 AM

I don't disagree in theory, but I think yesterdays decision had more to do with #15s gimpy foot after the 3rd down play.

chiefzilla1501 · 12-05-2022, 11:40 AM

I also think we passed on 3rd down because we were trying to score as quick as possible. The whole drive felt like we rushed through it even though it was so slow developing. Another reason why the timing of the fumble hurt us in so many ways

DRM08 · 12-05-2022, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan

Andy forgets that he has the best quarterback in the world far too often for my liking.

I can stomach losses when Pat fails.

I cant stomach them when we lose because of a missed field goal and then the defense never gets him the ball back.

Put the game on 15.

It's especially frustrating because the Chiefs have a shaky defense. But Andy still gets super conservative in these situations, as if the defense is good enough to get the job done. He apparently trusts the defense more than his offense, which is strange.

Gravedigger · 12-05-2022, 11:41 AM

Butker's done it plenty of times in the past for us so it makes sense, but it's one of those if it works then you don't hear about it. 55 yard field goal isn't a lock, especially in an outdoor stadium, but that's every field goal, it'll either go in or it won't. Basing the game and last drive on it was an issue, if it was a miss before half time then it wouldn't have received the same attention.

I believe that if you play for Field Goals, you play to lose the game, especially in this day and age in the NFL. Andy has always been overly conservative and has never truly been relentless, and attacking all the time. When we won the Super Bowl, Andy would always tell Patrick to keep firing. We need that mentality, let Patrick go crazy and take the good with the bad, rather then losing it conservatively in a non-conservative NFL.

Wisconsin_Chief · 12-05-2022, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

I'm starting to think Andy has a Bengals Block. If that game had been against the Raiders, he goes for it instead of trying to tie.

It's not just Andy, it's the whole team.

The Bengals are in our heads as much as we are in the heads of the Chargers. They piss down their legs every single time they have a shot to beat us, just like we do against Cincy.

They have got to break out of that mindset of self fulfilling prophecy.

chiefzilla1501 · 12-05-2022, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravedigger

Butker's done it plenty of times in the past for us so it makes sense, but it's one of those if it works then you don't hear about it. 55 yard field goal isn't a lock, especially in an outdoor stadium, but that's every field goal, it'll either go in or it won't. Basing the game and last drive on it was an issue, if it was a miss before half time then it wouldn't have received the same attention.

I believe that if you play for Field Goals, you play to lose the game, especially in this day and age in the NFL. Andy has always been overly conservative and has never truly been relentless, and attacking all the time. When we won the Super Bowl, Andy would always tell Patrick to keep firing. We need that mentality, let Patrick go crazy and take the good with the bad, rather then losing it conservatively in a non-conservative NFL.

I don’t think we were playing for FGs. I think we were playing to get the ball back. Credit to the bengals D it took us WAY too long to get to FG range. If we move the ball much quicker a quick FG would’ve been a great play.

TLO · 12-05-2022, 11:44 AM

If Pat doesn't come up gimpy I wonder if Andy's decision would have been different?

**loochy** · 12-05-2022, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don’t think we were playing for FGs. I think we were playing to get the ball back.

Well that was dumb. They couldn't stop the Bengals all day. Why would they think that would suddenly change?

TLO · 12-05-2022, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

#Bengals

The 3rd down throw from Burrow to close out the game…

Man-coverage underneath. Higgins on the slant route. Can see the ball location here. pic.twitter.com/fkVJwRu6OF
— Matt Bowen (@MattBowen41) December 5, 2022

That was an amazing throw. ****.

Gary Cooper · 12-05-2022, 11:46 AM

Besides Andy, nobody on the planet could have agreed with that.

In hindsight, it would be tough to run the clock down on the Bengals. We had over 3 minutes with a short field. They had all three timeouts. They were always going to get the ball back; the only question is, with how much time remaining?

Gary Cooper · 12-05-2022, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Hank Hill

That was an amazing throw. ****.

Not sure what Mike Danna was looking at. He could have disrupted that play with a hit on Burrow. Would have been split second but may have been enough.

BigRock · 12-05-2022, 11:49 AM

I'm amazed there's only one thread about this. It was an astonishingly bad call. Even if you make the FG, all you've done is tie and you're putting it on a defense that only once all game actually kept them from going on a long drive.

WTF fat man?

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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-725936	Late game FG attempt Andy needs to quit using old school thinking in these situations. Going for the fg attempt there to tie, just not the right choice. Even without hindsight, it was to tie so you're giving the Bengals the ball back. Don't ever take the ball out of Mahomes hands there. You have an easy way out even if he fails....."well we live and die with Pat so"...... The goal of that drive should have been to either tie it with less than 10 seconds to go or win it in similar fashion with like 30 seconds left.
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12-05-2022, 11:38 AM	#17
chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $-1755503	I want to start by saying “I agree, we should have went for it.” However I also kind of get it. I think Andy hoped we could get one more offensive possession. What he didn’t want was to lose the game with burrow running out the clock on a go ahead drive. I think we kicked so we can get the ball out of possession moreso than being afraid to go for it. If we make the FG and tie it, I think we could have gotten the ball back. Love kelce to death but that fumble put Andy Reid in a horrible spot. And he made the worse of a lose lose situation. Hindsight is 20/20 but I think if we go for the TD, IF we get a td we give cincy the ball back with 2 minutes and they score just as easily as they did the rest of the game.
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12-05-2022, 11:39 AM	#19
Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $1668454	I don't disagree in theory, but I think yesterdays decision had more to do with #15s gimpy foot after the 3rd down play.
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12-05-2022, 11:40 AM	#20
chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $-1755503	I also think we passed on 3rd down because we were trying to score as quick as possible. The whole drive felt like we rushed through it even though it was so slow developing. Another reason why the timing of the fumble hurt us in so many ways
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12-05-2022, 11:41 AM	#22
Gravedigger Plays to win the game! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lees Summit Casino cash: $6473101	Butker's done it plenty of times in the past for us so it makes sense, but it's one of those if it works then you don't hear about it. 55 yard field goal isn't a lock, especially in an outdoor stadium, but that's every field goal, it'll either go in or it won't. Basing the game and last drive on it was an issue, if it was a miss before half time then it wouldn't have received the same attention. I believe that if you play for Field Goals, you play to lose the game, especially in this day and age in the NFL. Andy has always been overly conservative and has never truly been relentless, and attacking all the time. When we won the Super Bowl, Andy would always tell Patrick to keep firing. We need that mentality, let Patrick go crazy and take the good with the bad, rather then losing it conservatively in a non-conservative NFL.
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12-05-2022, 11:44 AM	#25
TLO Life is changing.. Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: NW Missouri Casino cash: $-2580000	If Pat doesn't come up gimpy I wonder if Andy's decision would have been different?
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12-05-2022, 11:46 AM	#28
Gary Cooper MVP Join Date: Nov 2020 Casino cash: $-1269600	Besides Andy, nobody on the planet could have agreed with that. In hindsight, it would be tough to run the clock down on the Bengals. We had over 3 minutes with a short field. They had all three timeouts. They were always going to get the ball back; the only question is, with how much time remaining?
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12-05-2022, 11:49 AM	#30
BigRock Pritay Pritay Pritay Good Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The State of Euphoria Casino cash: $705412	I'm amazed there's only one thread about this. It was an astonishingly bad call. Even if you make the FG, all you've done is tie and you're putting it on a defense that only once all game actually kept them from going on a long drive. WTF fat man?
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