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Old 02-19-2023, 12:12 PM  
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Nate Taylor: Chiefs expected to franchise OBJ again [not happening]

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Brown is technically the Chiefs’ top free agent, though for the second consecutive year, he might never reach the open market. Similar to last year, the Chiefs are expected to place the franchise tag on Brown, which will prevent him from becoming an unrestricted free agent. Such a move will allow both parties more time to negotiate a lucrative contract extension. If the parties cannot agree to a deal by the middle of July, Brown would once again be restricted to a one-year salary of $18.4 million, according to Over The Cap.
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The Athletic's Nate Taylor writes the Chiefs are "expected" to place the franchise tag on LT Orlando Brown again.

Brown played on the tag last year, briefly threatening to not report to camp before showing up on time. Since coming over for the Ravens in a trade, Brown has been stellar if not exceptional, and would probably profile as one of the five best free agents on the market if he got there. Taylor also writes that Brown turned down a six-year, $139 million deal with a $30.25 million signing bonus last offseason.
Not really new news...but he won't be hitting the open market at least.

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Old 02-24-2023, 05:00 PM   #736
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So you're fine with paying a guy 23 million that "isn't a great athlete" and "doesn't seem like someone who stays hungry once he gets paid."

I mean he pretty clearly said "Not really a fan of giving him big money".

Once again, what people want is being confused with what people think might happen.
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Old 02-24-2023, 05:07 PM   #737
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This is why I think KC keeps Brown if they don't believe a LT his caliber or better is available via FA or when KC picks. They won't mortgage the farm for any LT.
Yes. And Brown knows this. So he can play hardball and make KC mortgage their salary cap to extend him….
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Old 02-24-2023, 05:19 PM   #738
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Only if he signs.
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Old 02-24-2023, 05:26 PM   #739
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Yes. And Brown knows this. So he can play hardball and make KC mortgage their salary cap to extend him….
BV proved last year with Hill that he will not let one player hold the team hostage financially.
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Old 02-24-2023, 05:39 PM   #740
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Old 02-24-2023, 05:50 PM   #741
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He says the correct things. Had an outstanding Superbowl.

But still needs to benefit both sides for a contract.

1. He signs a fair deal with both.
2. He plays on the tag
3. He holds out and we trade him where he wants
4. He holds out and other teams see he just wants money and we trade him for whatever we can get.
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Old 02-24-2023, 06:19 PM   #742
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BV proved last year with Hill that he will not let one player hold the team hostage financially.
Brown and Hill are not even close to the same. Hill was elite and viewed as one of the best WRs in the league. Brown is an above average LT. You can replace Hill easier because there are multiple WRs that can and will play. We only have one solid LT at this point. You can’t plug and play his position and expect equal results from lesser talent.
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Old 02-24-2023, 06:58 PM   #743
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Brown and Hill are not even close to the same. Hill was elite and viewed as one of the best WRs in the league. Brown is an above average LT. You can replace Hill easier because there are multiple WRs that can and will play. We only have one solid LT at this point. You can’t plug and play his position and expect equal results from lesser talent.
Kind of makes you think OL are underpaid and receivers are overpaid. Focus on giving your elite QB time to throw the ball and he’ll be pretty successful no matter who the receivers are.

They could pay Orlando $24M per year and it would still be $6M per year less than Tyreek. That’s a 20-25% gap between them. I don’t think receivers are that dang important compared to OL, especially LT.
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Old 02-24-2023, 07:05 PM   #744
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Receivers are overpaid if you have Mahomes. If you have Tua you need elite WRs if you're going to have a hope to make noise in the playoffs.
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Old 02-24-2023, 07:57 PM   #745
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BV proved last year with Hill that he will not let one player hold the team hostage financially.
Soooooo----

This is why I think KC keeps Brown if they don't believe a LT his caliber or better is available via FA or when KC picks. They won't mortgage the farm for any LT.
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Old 02-25-2023, 02:43 AM   #747
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If he comes in demanding a boatload of guaranteed money again, Veach will definitely trade him.

I feel like they'll come to terms but its definitely not a guarantee.

The real question is his value on the market. Is it a 1st or a 2nd round pick? I'd have to think like most and say 2nd but a high 2nd. If that's the case, Tennesee might make sense to send OBJ + #31 for #11. Otherwise, you might get Pittsburgh's pick from Chicago at #32.
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Old 02-25-2023, 02:13 PM   #748
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Hey thanks, I did not know that.

That being said, how many guys actually play on a 2nd tag? Not many. I'm guessing a 3rd tag is absolutely not an option in almost all cases.
I honestly do not recall anyone getting tagged 3 times. It's very rare, because it would not be financially smart to do so. My understanding is a third consecutive tag runs at either:

*144% of the second-year tag salary, or
*120% of the average of the five highest salaries at their respective position, or
*The average of the top-five salaries at the highest-paid position

whichever is higher.

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One thing I didn't realize, unless I heard it wrong, is that tags are cumulative even if a player moves to another team. So if the Vikings tag Cousins, it would be a 3rd tag.

That seems like one reason OBJ might not totally hate the 2nd tag. Get it out of the way now then teams can never do it to him again. But probably not.
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Old 02-25-2023, 03:33 PM   #750
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One thing I didn't realize, unless I heard it wrong, is that tags are cumulative even if a player moves to another team. So if the Vikings tag Cousins, it would be a 3rd tag.

That seems like one reason OBJ might not totally hate the 2nd tag. Get it out of the way now then teams can never do it to him again. But probably not.
He runs the risk of playing on a one-year contract with no future security, and if he (knock on wood, hope it does not happen) gets severely injured, his value tanks. So I can see the angle of him not signing the franchise tag and sitting out (like Bell did against Pittsburgh).
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