Brett Veach hopes Chris Jones can play next week; increased talks last 2 days

[RunKC]

For the mega thread hating crew

#Chiefs GM Brett Veach says he's hopeful that DT Chris Jones will play in their season opener vs. the Lions, which is just eight days away.

Veach mentioned that there has been increased communication on an extension over the past two days. pic.twitter.com/MpLGt0mYhz

— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) August 30, 2023

[jettio]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

They aren’t having him do “some stuff” 24 hours before a regular season game if this was a regularly planned appearance.

It was a PR stunt.

It is Red Wednesday for the home opener. The proceeds from car flag sales from Red Fridays and Red Wednesdays goes to Ronald McDonald House.

https://www.chiefs.com/red-wednesday/

As a PR stunt it came off beautifully. Everyone watching local news in Kansas City will see a reasonable statement from Chris Jones.

A lot of Chiefs fans that do not post on message boards are not that anal about a famous player getting paid.

[jettio]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Please make it stop. Dozens of people have responded to this exact same message from you over the last several days.

The most important player in the game took less to remain with the team in the interest of building a winner. Another HOF player did the same. The Chiefs gave CJ of all people a top-of-the-market second contract likely beyond what Sneed, McDuffie, and Bolton would be looking for on a comparable basis.

But most importantly, it’s a top-shelf organization and if we offer those players comparable top-shelf money, they stay. If we don’t, they leave. Same as anything else.

Well, Chiefs move should be to get a deal done with Chris Jones.

It would be penny wise and pound foolish to not go to Veach-Tillis Plan B.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Veach should slap Jones and his agent across the face and tell them to take a hard look at the LA Rams right now and their glorious Aaron Donald contract.

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

All indications are the talks are about the 2 years beyond this one, and more likely than not the short-term nature is exactly why CJ is angling for more.

But there’s definitely a world where Veach feels CJ is asking for fair market value but just doesn’t see that expenditure making the most sense for the organization.

Sure, but is that the fair market value of a DT or a DE? Others have already listed several DEs that would rank higher than Jones if he is being compared to that position for contract value. I certainly understand if CJ and his agents wish to make their argument based on over all value as opposed to positional value, but that isn’t the winning argument for them they would hope it is, at least not in the eyes of the majority of franchises that hand out these contracts.

[RollChiefsRoll]

Originally Posted by jettio

Well, Chiefs move should be to get a deal done with Chris Jones.

It would be penny wise and pound foolish to not go to Veach-Tillis Plan B.

You’re like a six year old who figures out a cool new phrase and won’t stop saying it because it rolls off the tongue.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by O.city

via GIPHY

This is the funniest post in the thread.

Well done.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

Veach should slap Jones and his agent across the face and tell them to take a hard look at the LA Rams right now and their glorious Aaron Donald contract.

Aaron Donald's perspective is that the money's still green and it spends just fine.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by O.city

He's a defensive end.

Double team him like Jones does and then we can compare.

We don't have to tear down Jones to make ourselves feel better about paying or not paying.

Yeah this shit is even more irritating that Chris Jones. People in here acting like he's not one of the best pass rushers in the entire league and he's doing it from a much more important spot, while taking on over double the amount of double teams than those edge rushers. He's getting legit double teams from center and guards, while edge rushers will get clipped by a shitty TE or RB and that's considered a double team. He's also getting just as much pressure as those guys.

Interior pressure is way more valuable than edge pressure. You can tell that by what it does to our very own Patrick Mahomes. It's almost his kryptonite, almost. Pressure on the inside keeps the QB from stepping up into the pocket and gets the QB on the move. Lots of QBs aren't good throwing on the move. What Chris Jones does is more vital than what the greatest edge rushers do and he's able to get to the QB at the same clip as those guys while having to beat 2 legit blockers.

****ing tards on here dissing his play can get wrecked by his foot long dong. ****ing idiots.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by jettio

It is Red Wednesday for the home opener. The proceeds from car flag sales from Red Fridays and Red Wednesdays goes to Ronald McDonald House.

https://www.chiefs.com/red-wednesday/

As a PR stunt it came off beautifully. Everyone watching local news in Kansas City will see a reasonable statement from Chris Jones.

A lot of Chiefs fans that do not post on message boards are not that anal about a famous player getting paid.

As usual you miss the point.

Players don’t participate in public events like this the day before a game.

Red Wednesday, Ash Wednesday… it doesn’t matter the occasion.

And everyone saw Chris Jones talk about “asking for a raise” at a supposed charity event with his amateur agents looking on in approval.

[jettio]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

As usual you miss the point.

Players don’t participate in public events like this the day before a game.

Red Wednesday, Ash Wednesday… it doesn’t matter the occasion.

And everyone saw Chris Jones talk about “asking for a raise” at a supposed charity event with his amateur agents looking on in approval.

Well, Chiefs beat writers were the ones asking questions, so good job at logistics as well as messaging.

Call the cops, it all seems legal and kosher to me.

[RINGLEADER]

Honestly the show that he and his agent put on make me think this is likely to wrap up soon. I don’t think Chris wants to lose $1M a week to make a point.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by jettio

Well, Chiefs beat writers were the ones asking questions, so good job at logistics as well as messaging.

Call the cops, it all seems legal and kosher to me.

Amateur agents is a good way to put it.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by jettio

It would be penny wise and pound foolish to not up the offer to Jones.

Chiefs front office could lose goodwill in locker room. What if Sneed has another great season and he does not get a market rate deal from Chiefs?

Why would you want Trent McDuffie, Nick Bolton and other players on rookie contracts to think they will have to leave KC to get a market rate second contract?

Gee, maybe a team that is a recurring Super Bowl contender has so much talent that it can't actually pay every player on the roster a market rate+ second and third contract and still be under the cap...

Nah, that can't be it.

I'm sure it's just that Clark is being tight fisted with his money...

[warpaint*]

Originally Posted by jettio

Well, Chiefs beat writers were the ones asking questions, so good job at logistics as well as messaging.

Call the cops, it all seems legal and kosher to me.

It was whatever you want to see.

He articulated his position poorly but in fairness to him when millionaires and billionaires are at a stalemate it’s challenging for either to come off as sympathetic.

Jones wants to be here and get paid like he’s someplace w/o Mahomes contract on the books. I think he needs to realize he can have one or the other and make a choice (report or ask for a trade). He also should have done it six months ago should the choice be the latter.

The whole thing revolves around the cap obviously. There aren’t any bad guys here. IMO Jones has overplayed his hand and can only hurt himself by continuing to hold out.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by jettio

It is Red Wednesday for the home opener. The proceeds from car flag sales from Red Fridays and Red Wednesdays goes to Ronald McDonald House.

https://www.chiefs.com/red-wednesday/

As a PR stunt it came off beautifully. Everyone watching local news in Kansas City will see a reasonable statement from Chris Jones.

A lot of Chiefs fans that do not post on message boards are not that anal about a famous player getting paid.

Chiefs fans are knowledgeable fans so I'd say you're wrong.