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Old 09-27-2023, 09:13 AM  
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Old 09-28-2023, 01:15 PM   #286
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The only other person in this league who has pulled good corners out of his ass is Bill. Time and time again he does it. Speaking of...his first rd corner this year is a goddamn stud.

Uche, Barmore, Dugger. All very good players who are ascending. His FA's like Judon are very good. I also like Hunter Henry a ton, but again his QB sucks.

This league is filled with good teams that aren't good bc of their QB. The Patriots are one of them.

He's not a bottom 5 GM. I can name others who are far worse
Yes, yeeeessssssssss. Exactly my point.

Put Mahomes on that team right now and they’re a contender. You don’t even need Reid. All of those guys will instantly look a lot better.

Furthermore, in this hypothetical scenario we’re talking about bringing 2017 BelichickGM here! WITH Reid, Mahomes, Kelce, Chris Jones and Tyreek Hill. Mannnnnn, don’t tell me there’s no way BelichickGM could get lucky and replicate the success we’ve enjoyed.
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Old 09-28-2023, 01:15 PM   #287
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Uche broke out last year with 11 sacks. We'll see if he's really that good and can duplicate it this year.

I think Barmore with Uche and Dugger is a reach. He's not a like like those guys were just yet.
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Old 09-28-2023, 01:16 PM   #288
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Hell, Mike Danna and Josh Uche have nearly identical production.
Danna is a footnote on Veach's recent draft history.

Uche is top 3 for BB!
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Old 09-28-2023, 01:17 PM   #289
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Hell, Mike Danna and Josh Uche have nearly identical production.
You might want to check again. Uche had 11.5 sacks last season. He was really good
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Old 09-28-2023, 01:17 PM   #290
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Belicheck put MATT PATRICIA and JOE JUDGE in charge of developing Mac Jones. Yeah, o ****ing wonder he's regressed and may have had his career permanently altered.
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Old 09-28-2023, 01:17 PM   #291
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What. Dugger is very good. That's about it. Uche and Barmore have been rotational players at best for multiple seasons up to this point. That's fine for second rounders but doesn't make them very good.
Uche put up 12 sacks last year. He's really good. Kinda hoping they let him walk and he comes to KC on a nice mid tier deal. Think there could be some value there.

Plus we need a pure speed edge to pair with Karlaftis and FAU.
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Old 09-28-2023, 01:19 PM   #292
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I do think putting Andy and Pat on any team in the league is gonna be a real force multiplier for the GM>
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Old 09-28-2023, 01:19 PM   #293
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Danna: 89 tackles, 13.5 sacks.

Uche: 50 tackles, 16 sacks.

Identical production.
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Old 09-28-2023, 01:19 PM   #294
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I've posted the last few drafts.

I've explained that he let Jacobi Meyers walk while paying JuJu similar money knowing his knee is ****ed.

I posted the tweet showing that he had 13 day 1 & 2 picks between 2018 to 2020, and he hit on ****ing TWO.

You name 3 good players, and you think that disproves all this other shit?

Who drafted that QB you keep using as an excuse Run?
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He's proven to be a very good GM just not when it comes to finding WR's or QB's lol
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Old 09-28-2023, 01:20 PM   #295
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Danna: 89 tackles, 13.5 sacks.

Uche: 50 tackles, 16 sacks.

Identical production.
Did you fact check yourself?

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Yes, yeeeessssssssss. Exactly my point.

Put Mahomes on that team right now and they’re a contender. You don’t even need Reid. All of those guys will instantly look a lot better.

Furthermore, in this hypothetical scenario we’re talking about bringing 2017 BelichickGM here! WITH Reid, Mahomes, Kelce, Chris Jones and Tyreek Hill. Mannnnnn, don’t tell me there’s no way BelichickGM could get lucky and replicate the success we’ve enjoyed.
Not because of BB the GM.

Because of BB the HC. Of course you don't even need Reid. As great as Reid is, a defensive wizard like BB would be the ultimate pairing with Pat.

That's why BB is a bit overrated. Him and Brady are different from Reid and Mahomes because BB is a ****ing defensive wizard, and he knows offensive football well enough to always have an adequate OC (as long as he had a great QB like Brady).

Andy and Pat have nothing to do with the defense.

That's why getting Spags and him and Veach having that same synergy that Veach and Andy have has been so important.

If we had BB running the defense, we wouldn't have to put so many resources into it. I love Spags, but he's not BB. Nobody is. That guy can have a good defense every single year.

Again, it's impossible to have this argument because you can't se the difference between Belichick the HC and the GM. You think it's all the same, when it's not.
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This season

Uche: 13 pressures, 1 sack

Danna: 9 pressures, 3 sacks

Identical production
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Danna: 89 tackles, 13.5 sacks.

Uche: 50 tackles, 16 sacks.

Identical production.
Why are you comparing him to Veach? Staylor said he was a bottom 5 GM. I can name 5 GM's that are worse than Bill without blinking
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Why are you comparing him to Veach? Staylor said he was a bottom 5 GM. I can name 5 GM's that are worse than Bill without blinking
Guaranteed they don't have a HC like BB to hide their trash personnel decisions.
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Why are you comparing him to Veach? Staylor said he was a bottom 5 GM. I can name 5 GM's that are worse than Bill without blinking
There's been plenty more conversation about Belicheck and his draft record than that.
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