Chiefs discussing Thuney trade [confirmed]

[siberian khatru]

The Kansas City Chiefs are engaged in trade discussions surrounding 4x Super Bowl champion Joe Thuney, per sources.

Chicago is one of the teams interested in the 2x All-Pro. pic.twitter.com/N7YDehEFDM

— Dianna Russini (@DMRussini) March 5, 2025

Sources: The #Bears are expected to trade for #Chiefs All-Pro G Joe Thuney, as the Chicago continues to load up on the offensive line.

KC gets a bit younger, plus frees up some money to use elsewhere. pic.twitter.com/P0GdAd0WtW

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 5, 2025

Compensation update; Bears are trading a 2026 fourth-round pick to the Chiefs for Pro-Bowl OL Joe Thuney, per source. https://t.co/QAcfND57By

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 5, 2025

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I'm honestly shocked that there are people willing to lose both Smith and Thuney in the same offseason after what just happened in the SB...

Absolutely willing if the powers that be are comfortable with Nourzad or someone else at RG. Why not?

As DJ mentioned, we won Super Bowls with average to below-average players on the interior and good OTs.

Maybe those young guys would give you average to above-average. Even if it's not elite, you don't necessarily need elite. You just don't need Caliendo getting carried into his lap every down.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by staylor26

But LT had to be upgraded regardless. That's a separate issue. As long as Kingsley is solid, trading Thuney and getting cap space will work out well.

Yeah, but I think the question is whether you pay a wedge of money to Thuney or Smith. Probably the best argument is you may be freeing up a bit more tagging Smith and trading Thuney, than letting Smith walk and extending Thuney. Someone who's better on the cap implications than I can chime in.

The risk of losing Thuney is that IF you fail to improve appreciably at LT, or if you end up with a guy who's maybe a little better but not great (Dan Moore, Jaylon Moore etc) you may want to keep Thuney at LG. Because a Dan Moore and Kingsley situation could get pretty ugly.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Absolutely willing if the powers that be are comfortable with Nourzad or someone else at RG. Why not?

As DJ mentioned, we won Super Bowls with average to below-average players on the interior and good OTs.

Maybe those young guys would give you average to above-average. Even if it's not elite, you don't necessarily need elite. You just don't need Caliendo getting carried into his lap every down.

I really, really hope Nourzad can be as good at guard as he looked at center for the Broncos game

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I'm honestly shocked that there are people willing to lose both Smith and Thuney in the same offseason after what just happened in the SB...

The punter sucked shit the entire post-season as well. Doesn't mean I'm gonna extend him.

I just don't think Smith is a good investment at the cost and with the fact that he's not an ideal fit. Nor does he play a position that's all that difficult to field credibly. I see no reason at all to believe that some combination of Nourzad, Kingsley and Morris couldn't give me two credible OGs.

And that's where my analysis ends. How it relates to fixing OT (it doesn't) or how else I'd spend the money (I'm not sure; I'm not apprised as to all the alternatives available to me) are separate inquiries.

I just do not see a run-blocking RG being worth a market-setting contract. Full stop. It's not a position that matters enough and it's not a player that's ideally suited to this team.

The rest is a question for another day.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I firmly agree.

Hell, maybe Veach trades Smith yet, we have no idea. He might say **** it and spend money elsewhere.

We gotta stop this shit.

We've agreed on damn near everything this off-season. I think Robinson is the most only spot where we disagree.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Mahomes fleeing clean pockets makes him vulnerable and guys like Trey Smith get dinged with a pressure bc their guy hits Mahomes. Eagles saw this and had thier DE’s fake going up field then cut back inside when Mahomes stepped up.



Mahomes needs to work on staying in the pocket. He was really good at this in 2022. But yes talent at LT and WR will help with this.

Been trying to have this conversation for 2 years now.

I'm told that I'm being 'ungrateful'.

Mahomes absolutely makes life hard on his OL. All of them.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Nobody wants to hear this but a good amount of this was Mahomes. He put Jawaan in an impossible situation quite a few times

I’ve been critical of Mahomes, but I’d replace every spot on the line before I’d replace Mahomes.

He needs to be better but we can’t have guys taking up like $70m in cap space combined getting wrecked by dudes like Bryce Huff, Jalyx Hunt and Brandon Graham fresh off a torn pec.

Originally Posted by staylor26

Not that they were good, but the right side of the line wasn't what destroyed our entire gameplan and Mahomes confidence. It was the left side.

They still got worked far more than they should have.

What are we expecting the AAV for Smith’s deal to be? If it’s anything north of $15m you’re talking about sinking nearly $55m/year on average into the OL just from C-RT.

Crees may be worth it but Trey and Jawaan are probably not.

[Palangi]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Absolutely willing if the powers that be are comfortable with Nourzad or someone else at RG. Why not?

As DJ mentioned, we won Super Bowls with average to below-average players on the interior and good OTs.

Maybe those young guys would give you average to above-average. Even if it's not elite, you don't necessarily need elite. You just don't need Caliendo getting carried into his lap every down.

I wonder if Nourzad OSS looked at as an Allegretti type? 6th man and interior swing guy?

If we were able to snag a second rounder for Smith to get that extra capital, what would be the comfort level of an interior of…
LG- Kingsley
C - Humphrey
RG- Morris
We would have more money to throw at a guy like Ronnie Stanley or more draft assets to MAYBE trade for a Taylor Decker at LT? Maybe the Lions want to move Penei to LT and draft a young RT like Ersary?

LT- Stanley/Decker, Draft pick
LG- Kingsley, Hanson/Nourzad
C - Humphrey, Nourzad
RG- Morris, Nourzad
RT- Taylor, Driskol

Just thinking out loud. Not saying we should

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Absolutely willing if the powers that be are comfortable with Nourzad or someone else at RG. Why not?

As DJ mentioned, we won Super Bowls with average to below-average players on the interior and good OTs.

Maybe those young guys would give you average to above-average. Even if it's not elite, you don't necessarily need elite. You just don't need Caliendo getting carried into his lap every down.

While THAT is a fair point, we don't exactly have a solid LT (Fisher) and an elite RT (Schwartz) to make up for that interior deficiency at the moment. Feel like we'd be throwing Mahomes to the wolves and saying 'good luck, make something happen'

I'm all for the direction of that but it doesn't make sense till you have the tackle situation figured out first.

[Shields68]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I’ve been critical of Mahomes, but I’d replace every spot on the line before I’d replace Mahomes.

He needs to be better but we can’t have guys taking up like $70m in cap space combined getting wrecked by dudes like Bryce Huff, Jalyx Hunt and Brandon Graham fresh off a torn pec.




They still got worked far more than they should have.

What are we expecting the AAV for Smith’s deal to be? If it’s anything north of $15m you’re talking about sinking nearly $55m/year on average into the OL just from C-RT.

Crees may be worth it but Trey and Jawaan are probably not.

Smith got tagged for 23 million. His deal going to have to be average year of that amount. You can structure some of it to reduce the cap hit this year and next, if you sign him long term. But 15 is long gone.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I’ve been critical of Mahomes, but I’d replace every spot on the line before I’d replace Mahomes.

He needs to be better but we can’t have guys taking up like $70m in cap space combined getting wrecked by dudes like Bryce Huff, Jalyx Hunt and Brandon Graham fresh off a torn pec.




They still got worked far more than they should have.

What are we expecting the AAV for Smith’s deal to be? If it’s anything north of $15m you’re talking about sinking nearly $55m/year on average into the OL just from C-RT.

Crees may be worth it but Trey and Jawaan are probably not.

Taylor's gone after this year, just like Thuney. I'd imagine the first year of Smith's deal will be a low hit, so these guys aren't going to cost that much this year, and even if they are it's just for one more year tops.

Regardless, Smith and Taylor didn't lose us that game any more than Mahomes or Kelce IMO. They played bad, but everybody did outside of ****ing Xavier Worthy. Maybe Creed played well too. I'm not going to let the left side being absolutely atrocious knock them any more than those other guys because of that.

At the end of the day, it was the SB, but it was one game. You don't build your entire team around that. The LT issue obviously has to be fixed after that disaster. Caliendo can never start another meaningful game ever again. Other than that, I think a lot of the SB reflection on these moves is an overreaction to one game at the end of the day.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Shields68

Smith got tagged for 23 million. His deal going to have to be average year of that amount. You can structure some of it to reduce the cap hit this year and next, if you sign him long term. But 15 is long gone.

That’s just the cost of the tag for one year. We can sign him to any amount he’ll agree to.

If we sign Trey to a deal with AAV north of $23m I will ****ing lose it.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

That’s just the cost of the tag for one year. We can sign him to any amount he’ll agree to.

If we sign Trey to a deal with AAV north of $23m I will ****ing lose it.

Oh sir. I'm so very, very sorry.

If you think we're getting him for less than $21 million I just don't know what to tell ya. And honestly I do think the floor is that $23 million tag figure.

You can hate it but we're gonna do it.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Oh sir. I'm so very, very sorry.

If you think we're getting him for less than $21 million I just don't know what to tell ya. And honestly I do think the floor is that $23 million tag figure.

You can hate it but we're gonna do it.

Yep.

Veach will make the cap hit reasonable for this year, but the overall is what it is.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Oh sir. I'm so very, very sorry.

If you think we're getting him for less than $21 million I just don't know what to tell ya. And honestly I do think the floor is that $23 million tag figure.

You can hate it but we're gonna do it.

OMG.

I just checked the comps and you’re probably right. Landon Dickerson, who is about Trey’s age, just signed last year for $21m per.

I’m going to be sick..