Chiefs What's with the Thigpen fixation? - Page 19

Mecca · 02-10-2009, 04:53 PM

Now I fully admit it isn't as bad as I thought it was going to be on this forum but I've yet to figure out this fixation with him. It's really bad at some other unnamed forums..

I honestly have no way of comprehending what it's about. It's like everything people said about Croyle has now been lumped onto Thigpen. "Well um he's the guy we don't need another QB"

The worst part is the people who don't want a QB this year then say well if Thigpen doesn't work out we can just take Bradford or McCoy, it's like peoples brains fell out.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-10-2009, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon

Now pull out the 13 sacks in games where Thiggy was not in the spread....

13 sacks?

WTF are you talking about?

Thigpen has ONE START where he didn't run the spread: the Atlanta game.

He took two sacks in that game.

If you want to take that game out, fine.

19 sacks in 10 games: Still 1.9 sacks per start.

**DeezNutz** · 02-10-2009, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

*Sigh*

"Throwing for 60 plays"
There's no way to twist that. Mecca himself said the number was exaggerated.

I understood the quote. YOU...um...did not.

*sigh*

Quote is a verb. Quotation is a noun.

Mecca · 02-10-2009, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

*Sigh*

"Throwing for 60 plays"
There's no way to twist that. Mecca himself said the number was exaggerated.

I understood the quote. YOU...um...did not.

The whole point of his comment is to stress balance, that's what you want and it's extremely hard to be balanced when you are in shotgun every play.

**SAUTO** · 02-10-2009, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'm pretty sure the post you quoted says playoff wins, does it not?

Many QB's win playoff games.

Very few win SB's.

So no, I don't think winning a SB is a good barometer.

But you ought to be able to win some playoff games, and give your team a chance at the big game.

by yourself? what if your defense sucks?

MIAdragon · 02-10-2009, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

why not give the whole story? pass attempts. he also had MANY more pass attempts per game than either

Dont mention that 13 of those sacks were while we were NOT running the spread IIRC.

Mecca · 02-10-2009, 06:55 PM

How about all the dropped INT's Thigpen had? He literally had over 10 of them, a stroke of luck like that only lasts so long, Damon Huard had it when Green got hurt..then he returned to normal the next year.

Micjones · 02-10-2009, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

*sigh*

Quote is a verb. Quotation is a noun.

Merriam-Webster disagrees with you...
quote, to cite in illustration (noun)

**SAUTO** · 02-10-2009, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

13 sacks?

WTF are you talking about?

Thigpen has ONE START where he didn't run the spread: the Atlanta game.

He took two sacks in that game.

If you want to take that game out, fine.

19 sacks in 10 games: Still 1.9 sacks per start.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIAdragon

Dont mention that 13 of those sacks were while we were NOT running the spread IIRC.

OTW doesnt understand what you are saying, i do, and he didnt even reply to my pass attempts post

**dirk digler** · 02-10-2009, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Are you aware that the Colts base formation involves 2 TE's one lined up next to the OT?

They are not leaving their OT's open..same for the Patriots.

Yep but they run alot of 3 WR's set or spread the TE out. The Pats last year ran a lot of 4-5 WR's sets and Brady averaged 37 attempts a game

**doomy3** · 02-10-2009, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

How about all the dropped INT's Thigpen had? He literally had over 10 of them, a stroke of luck like that only lasts so long, Damon Huard had it when Green got hurt..then he returned to normal the next year.

So, no one can expect him to improve, but we should all expect him to actually get worse?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-10-2009, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

why not give the whole story? pass attempts. he also had MANY more pass attempts per game than either

Croyle: 1 every 29 attempts

Thigpen: 1 every 16 attempts

Huard: 1 every 9 attempts

Considering Huard's lack of mobility, I don't see what this changes.

Thigpen was hit a lot, and the spread is responsible for that.

**doomy3** · 02-10-2009, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'm pretty sure the post you quoted says playoff wins, does it not?

Many QB's win playoff games.

Very few win SB's.

So no, I don't think winning a SB is a good barometer.

But you ought to be able to win some playoff games, and give your team a chance at the big game.

It does. Was just trying to figure out where it ended where someone was considered being a good QB.

It's not Super Bowls, but a good QB wins playoff games.

Got it.

MIAdragon · 02-10-2009, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

13 sacks?

WTF are you talking about?

Thigpen has ONE START where he didn't run the spread: the Atlanta game.

He took two sacks in that game.

If you want to take that game out, fine.

19 sacks in 10 games: Still 1.9 sacks per start.

we ran the spread in the Car and Ten games?

Micjones · 02-10-2009, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

The whole point of his comment is to stress balance, that's what you want and it's extremely hard to be balanced when you are in shotgun every play.

I understood that completely and I agree.

Micjones · 02-10-2009, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

How about all the dropped INT's Thigpen had? He literally had over 10 of them, a stroke of luck like that only lasts so long, Damon Huard had it when Green got hurt..then he returned to normal the next year.

He also threw TD passes that were dropped.
Just sayin...

02-10-2009, 04:53 PM
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-722950	What's with the Thigpen fixation? Now I fully admit it isn't as bad as I thought it was going to be on this forum but I've yet to figure out this fixation with him. It's really bad at some other unnamed forums.. I honestly have no way of comprehending what it's about. It's like everything people said about Croyle has now been lumped onto Thigpen. "Well um he's the guy we don't need another QB" The worst part is the people who don't want a QB this year then say well if Thigpen doesn't work out we can just take Bradford or McCoy, it's like peoples brains fell out.
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02-10-2009, 06:55 PM	#276
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-722950	How about all the dropped INT's Thigpen had? He literally had over 10 of them, a stroke of luck like that only lasts so long, Damon Huard had it when Green got hurt..then he returned to normal the next year.
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