NFL Draft Someone explain to me what makes Aaron Curry worth the 3rd pick? - Page 5

Mecca · 02-18-2009, 08:58 PM

Since I'm seeing people starting to lean that way I really want to know...he's not a rusher 9 1/2 sacks in 4 years...he has nearly as many INT's as he does sacks over the course of his college career...

Does this mean he's a bad player no it doesn't, but the type of LB he is does not make him worth a top 5 pick. Fathom this Ernie Sims was taken 10 as a traditional 4-3 OLB he's a very nice player...is he a difference maker up in Detroit, he's not. And it can be easily argued that he's more naturally gifted than Curry is..the OLB position in a 4-3 is not a game changing core position.

Not to mention you could sign the #1 LB on the market of FA for half of what you'd have to pay Curry to do the same thing.

Reerun_KC · 02-18-2009, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by melbar

Ray lewis hasnt had 4 sacks since '97.

So Curry is as good as Ray Lewis?

Mecca · 02-18-2009, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by melbar

Ray lewis hasnt had 4 sacks since '97.

He's not a OLB now is he?

**notorious** · 02-18-2009, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Horse

So he's Derrick Johnson part 2.

Almost, but Curry actually fights off blocks instead of running around them.

Mecca · 02-18-2009, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

So Curry is a sure fire Probowl OLB in his 1st two years? He is an immediate impact player that will redefine the position?

Just forget Crazy man he just wants to take whoever the supposed best defensive player is period. Inspite if this you know being a shitty year for defense at the top of the draft but that doesn't count.

We don't need a QB we got Tyler Thigpen!

Deberg_1990 · 02-18-2009, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

You saying a guy CANT get a sack is the same thing as you saying a QB CANT learn to play offense. Yet you're the 1st one to jump in and say your boy who has little to no experience will have no problem being the next great QB.

I dont get too hung up in your evaluations. They're pretty self serrving.

I dont understand what big benefit a bench QB has to offer us. I mean, you're not thinking someone with no experience is gonna come out of college and wow us all on an NFL level do you?

Of course you do.

If I had to guess, I'd say you're the one who likes to argue. Since that is what the thread is designed to do. Argue a point saying the same shit you've been saying for the last week 500 times over. Like it's somehow going to make more sense now.

Give it up man. It's really not that ****ing important in the regular scope of life. Take a break. There's more to life than convincing/insulting everyone into your way of felating Sanchez.

You're starting to come off like a fricken kook.

If Sanchez gets picked at #3 there is no way he sits for long. Thats just simple $$$$ economics more than aything.

Mecca · 02-18-2009, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

If Sanchez gets picked at #3 there is no way he sits for long. Thats just simple $$$$ economics more than aything.

And now we're back to the thing of people not wanting a QB unless he's a perfect prospect.

CrazyHorse · 02-18-2009, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

So Curry is a sure fire Probowl OLB in his 1st two years? He is an immediate impact player that will redefine the position?

That's a little over the top. Simmer down.

He's a top prospect at the single biggest need on defense though. Probably wont be a bench warmer his 1st season.

lazepoo · 02-18-2009, 10:11 PM

If we're switching to a 3-4 defense, wouldn't a huge NT like Raji make more sense than Curry? I thought NTs were a lot harder to come by than LBs, and everything I've heard seems like Raji is a guy that could climb the draft boards.

Reerun_KC · 02-18-2009, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

And now we're back to the thing of people not wanting a QB unless he's a perfect prospect.

Who said Curry was the perfect prospect...

Its just a mindset in the fanbase... Some want defense and 9-7, others want a QB and a chance to win a superbowl...

melbar · 02-18-2009, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

He's a LB...

You could literally go sign a guy for half the price.

Who?

Again who do you pick if both QB's are gone? I know you've said CB. OK. How does that have more value to this team?

Curry had 15 tackles behind the line. 3 TD's from int's. over 100 tackles. He's a solid tackler and a big hitter. He is stout against the run. So they didnt rush the passer with him. We cant get everything with one pick or even one draft. Lewis doesnt rush the passer either and he does pretty OK.

Reerun_KC · 02-18-2009, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

That's a little over the top. Simmer down.

He's a top prospect at the single biggest need on defense though. Probably wont be a bench warmer his 1st season.

And So what makes you think a QB like Sanchez or Stafford would be a Benchwarmer....

Talent and $$$$ trumphs a 7th round waver wire pickup...

Those two are top prospects on a team without a true QB on the roster...

Mecca · 02-18-2009, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by melbar

Who?

Again who do you pick if both QB's are gone? I know you've said CB. OK. How does that have more value to this team?

Curry had 15 tackles behind the line. 3 TD's from int's. over 100 tackles. He's a solid tackler and a big hitter. He is stout against the run. So they didnt rush the passer with him. We cant get everything with one pick or even one draft. Lewis doesnt rush the passer either and he does pretty OK.

The CB position is more valuable than the LB position....

keg in kc · 02-18-2009, 10:15 PM

Statistically-speaking, DJ had 10.5 sacks (more than curry), 9 INTs (more than curry), 69 tackles for loss (24 more than curry), 9 passes defended (less than curry) and 458 tackles (120+ more than curry).

Size-wise they're almost identical (Curry's reported 5 pounds heavier). DJ ran in the low 4.5s, Curry's expected to run in the low 4.6s.

One played at Texas. One played at Wake Forest.

Look at all of those stats and tell me why Curry's supposedly going top-3 and DJ went 15. Although to be fair, virtually nobody expected DJ to fall that far.

Mecca · 02-18-2009, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Who said Curry was the perfect prospect...

Its just a mindset in the fanbase... Some want defense and 9-7, others want a QB and a chance to win a superbowl...

It has to do with the QB, some people act as if the QB isn't perfect they don't want him and want something else instead.

Mecca · 02-18-2009, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Statistically-speaking, DJ had 10.5 sacks (more than curry), 9 INTs (more than curry), 69 tackles for loss (24 more than curry), 9 passes defended (less than curry) and 458 tackles (120+ more than curry).

Size-wise they're almost identical (Curry's reported 5 pounds heavier). DJ ran in the low 4.5s, Curry's expected to run in the low 4.6s.

One played at Texas. One played at Wake Forest.

Look at all of those stats and tell me why Curry's supposedly going top-3 and DJ went 15. Although to be fair, virtually nobody expected DJ to fall that far.

Well Curry plays over the strong side which lowers his stats and he looks better on film no running around blockers but the fact that he plays over the strong side should hurt his value because a strong side backer is like a trash backer.

02-18-2009, 08:58 PM
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-742950	Someone explain to me what makes Aaron Curry worth the 3rd pick? Since I'm seeing people starting to lean that way I really want to know...he's not a rusher 9 1/2 sacks in 4 years...he has nearly as many INT's as he does sacks over the course of his college career... Does this mean he's a bad player no it doesn't, but the type of LB he is does not make him worth a top 5 pick. Fathom this Ernie Sims was taken 10 as a traditional 4-3 OLB he's a very nice player...is he a difference maker up in Detroit, he's not. And it can be easily argued that he's more naturally gifted than Curry is..the OLB position in a 4-3 is not a game changing core position. Not to mention you could sign the #1 LB on the market of FA for half of what you'd have to pay Curry to do the same thing.
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lazepoo Wizard Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Mpls Casino cash: $10005004	If we're switching to a 3-4 defense, wouldn't a huge NT like Raji make more sense than Curry? I thought NTs were a lot harder to come by than LBs, and everything I've heard seems like Raji is a guy that could climb the draft boards.
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keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Statistically-speaking, DJ had 10.5 sacks (more than curry), 9 INTs (more than curry), 69 tackles for loss (24 more than curry), 9 passes defended (less than curry) and 458 tackles (120+ more than curry). Size-wise they're almost identical (Curry's reported 5 pounds heavier). DJ ran in the low 4.5s, Curry's expected to run in the low 4.6s. One played at Texas. One played at Wake Forest. Look at all of those stats and tell me why Curry's supposedly going top-3 and DJ went 15. Although to be fair, virtually nobody expected DJ to fall that far.
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