Weiss told Fox to take Clausen

**The Franchise** · 04-27-2010, 10:57 AM

I happen to be a Notre Dame fan.....so I'm going to watch Clausen's career.

And I'll bring it up because we happened to have a chance at drafting him...and we didn't.

Hootie · 04-27-2010, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

I happen to be a Notre Dame fan.....so I'm going to watch Clausen's career.

And I'll bring it up because we happened to have a chance at drafting him...and we didn't.

and we had a chance to draft anyone from pick 6 on...

so as a fantasy football fan...every time Jahvid Best scores a TD for the Lions, I'm going to bring it up...because we had a chance at drafting him.

Same goes with every other player that amounts to something in the NFL after pick 36...

!!!

SAME GOES FOR ALL OF THOSE UDFA WE PASSED ON!

HOW DID WE PASS ON SOME OF THOSE GUYS!!

THAT'S CRAZY!

WHAT WERE WE THINKING!

GOD DAMN! WHY? WHY?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-27-2010, 11:04 AM

I'm just shocked to see who showed up to troll the this thread.

Hootie · 04-27-2010, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'm just shocked to see who showed up to troll the this thread.

I'm shocked to see who's in here sulking!

Wow...

Every thread has its constants!

Surprise, surprise!

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-27-2010, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

I'm shocked to see who's in here sulking!

Wow...

Every thread has its constants!

Surprise, surprise!

Sulking?

Find a post from this past weekend where I said I was pissed we passed on Clausen.

I've been "over it" since we passed on him at 36. I knew at that point that Weis had been overruled.

If you had any reading comprehension skills whatsoever, you'd see that my complaint is that we passed on guys, mainly at ILB and OLB that would have helped the TEAM more than a part time scat back.

But don't let facts get in the way. You never have before, why start now?

Hootie · 04-27-2010, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I knew at that point that Weis had been overruled.

Nice. I see what you did there!

That's rich.

How do you know Weis didn't say..."Scott, I was with this kid for three years...he doesn't have it...I love him and all...but he's not our answer. We shouldn't even have him on our draft board!"

That's as likely...100% as likely...as assuming Weis got overruled.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-27-2010, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

Nice. I see what you did there!

That's rich.

How do you know Weis didn't say..."Scott, I was with this kid for three years...he doesn't have it...I love him and all...but he's not our answer. We shouldn't even have him on our draft board!"

That's as likely...100% as likely...as assuming Weis got overruled.

Did you read the article posted? I'm guessing not.

You really think that Charlie Weis is going to purposefully give a colleague bad information?

There was a post a few days ago that talked about how much these guys share info and help other teams. I specifically remember someone responding to it by saying they were shocked that so much information is shared between teams.

What will you change the subject to this time?

**The Franchise** · 04-27-2010, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

and we had a chance to draft anyone from pick 6 on...

so as a fantasy football fan...every time Jahvid Best scores a TD for the Lions, I'm going to bring it up...because we had a chance at drafting him.

Same goes with every other player that amounts to something in the NFL after pick 36...

!!!

SAME GOES FOR ALL OF THOSE UDFA WE PASSED ON!

HOW DID WE PASS ON SOME OF THOSE GUYS!!

THAT'S CRAZY!

WHAT WERE WE THINKING!

GOD DAMN! WHY? WHY?

Because that's what I said.......you ****ing dipshit.

I'm a Notre Dame fan. If you're a Cal fan and you want to follow Jahvid Best....then go ahead.

I'll follow Jimmy Clausen's career....just like I'll follow Sam Young, Golden Tate and Eric Olsen.

penchief · 04-27-2010, 11:15 AM

Again, more hearsay and speculation. What do you expect Fox to say? He's going to justify his picks just like every other team will do. And what did you expect Weis to say? Jimmy sucks? What Weis may or may not have told Fox about Clausen has no bearing on the dynamic between Weis and Pioli.

I wish people would quit looking for reasons to cast aspersions about stuff they have little or no true knowledge about. There is a reason Clausen lasted until the 48th pick in the draft. And it isn't because the chiefs didn't pick him at five. He may prove to be a good starter in this league but he got drafted where he did because that was his perceived value at the time of the draft.

Look at this way. If it was so obvious that Clausen was a franchise quarterback why did Fox even have to confer with Weis before taking him? And what exactly did Weis mean when he said "he was the best I ever had?" Was he better than Brady? If he said that to Fox he was clearly blowing smoke up his ass. If he meant that he was better than Quinn, well, that's not saying much.

Not to mention this is supposed to have taken place before the draft which means that every team is blowing smoke because they don't want to tip their hand.

Some people will latch on to anything to keep beating a dead horse. This just sounds like more bullshit to me.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-27-2010, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by penchief

Again, more hearsay and speculation. What do you expect Fox to say? He's going to justify his picks just like every other team will do. And what did you expect Weis to say? Jimmy sucks? What Weis may or may not have told Fox about Clausen has no bearing on the dynamic between Weis and Pioli.

I wish people would quit looking for reasons to cast aspersions about stuff they have little or no true knowledge about. There is a reason Clausen lasted until the 48th pick in the draft. And it isn't because the chiefs didn't pick him at five. He may prove to be a good starter in this league but he got drafted where he did because that was his perceived value at the time of the draft.

Look at this way. If it was so obvious that Clausen was a franchise quarterback why did Fox even have to confer with Weis before taking him? And what exactly did Weis mean when he said "he was the best I ever had?" Was he better than Brady? If he said that to Fox he was clearly blowing smoke up his ass. If he meant that he was better than Quinn, well, that's not saying much.

This just sounds like more bullshit to me.

Except for the fact that Chris Mortensen reported the fact that Weis personally signed off on Clausen to the Panters' OC immediately after they drafted him on ESPN on Friday.

Hootie · 04-27-2010, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Except for the fact that Chris Mortensen reported the fact that Weis personally signed off on Clausen to the Panters' OC immediately after they drafted him on ESPN on Friday.

is that the same guy who cited Jack Harry and Nick Athan when Shanahan's deal was done?

Just curious...

Checking my facts.

Hammock Parties · 04-27-2010, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

is that the same guy who cited Jack Harry and Nick "Assclown" Athan when Shanahan's deal was done?

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

You can cite Harry and Athan and their info can be wrong.

Never MIND the fact that Nick never had ANY contact with Chris Mortensen.

penchief · 04-27-2010, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Except for the fact that Chris Mortensen reported the fact that Weis personally signed off on Clausen to the Panters' OC immediately after they drafted him on ESPN on Friday.

So that proves exactly what? That Weis was not going say something negative about Clausen to the panthers after they drafted him? What would the point have been?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-27-2010, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by penchief

So that proves exactly what? That Weis was not going say something negative about Clausen to the panthers after they drafted him? What would the point have been?

After?

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In doing pre-draft research, not that he thought he'd have a chance to get Clausen, Fox talked to Charlie Weis

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-27-2010, 11:39 AM

I guess Carolina doesn't expect him to become a franchise QB, seeing as how they didn't trade up and let the board come to them.

Awesome logic.

04-27-2010, 10:57 AM	#1
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04-27-2010, 11:15 AM	#9
penchief MVP Join Date: Feb 2003 Casino cash: $6085286	Again, more hearsay and speculation. What do you expect Fox to say? He's going to justify his picks just like every other team will do. And what did you expect Weis to say? Jimmy sucks? What Weis may or may not have told Fox about Clausen has no bearing on the dynamic between Weis and Pioli. I wish people would quit looking for reasons to cast aspersions about stuff they have little or no true knowledge about. There is a reason Clausen lasted until the 48th pick in the draft. And it isn't because the chiefs didn't pick him at five. He may prove to be a good starter in this league but he got drafted where he did because that was his perceived value at the time of the draft. Look at this way. If it was so obvious that Clausen was a franchise quarterback why did Fox even have to confer with Weis before taking him? And what exactly did Weis mean when he said "he was the best I ever had?" Was he better than Brady? If he said that to Fox he was clearly blowing smoke up his ass. If he meant that he was better than Quinn, well, that's not saying much. Not to mention this is supposed to have taken place before the draft which means that every team is blowing smoke because they don't want to tip their hand. Some people will latch on to anything to keep beating a dead horse. This just sounds like more bullshit to me. Last edited by penchief; 04-27-2010 at 11:21 AM..
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04-27-2010, 11:39 AM	#15
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2021115	I guess Carolina doesn't expect him to become a franchise QB, seeing as how they didn't trade up and let the board come to them. Awesome logic.
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