Joe Posnanski: big SI Scott Pioli feature

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You've said this before and you're still incorrect.

The Atlanta Falcons of 2007 were devoid of talent at most positions. New GM Tom Dimitroff drafted extremely well and brought in free agents and the team went 11-5. Three seasons later, they're considered an elite team.

The Detroit Lions under Millen were atrocious and devoid of talent. While their record hasn't shown improvement due to injuries, Schwartz and Mayhew have done a complete makeover of their roster and it's MUCH more talented than when they took over.

The same could be said about the Bucs. Dominick and Morris took over an old team and gutted it. This year, they're starting SEVEN rookies and while they're not elite, they are 7-4.

Your "point", once again, is hogwash.

I call BS.

TB is not an exception they are in year 2 just like KC with the same record. They may have a few more newer players but it's not a huge difference.

Atlanta did draft a QB that is a core player which fits my quote but Atlanta had 1 good season then a bad one in year 2 going 8-8 .
Turner was a FA in 2008 who didn't perform in 2009.

Lets look at your great examples of proving me wrong:
2008 Falcons

Offense-
Turner - FA
Norwood - leftover
Roddy -leftover
Jenkins- leftover

Eric Coleman Left over
Lawyer Milloy- you know
Kieth Brooking - you know
John Abraham - You know
Micheal Boley - you know
Dominique Foxworth- See a pattern

All their top tacklers, sack leaders etc...The o-line and d-line is mostly leftovers.

2010 Buccaneers

http://www.nfl.com/teams/tampabaybuc...hchart?team=TB

Take a look here and tell me how many of their team are 2 year or less players.

You are wrong.