Chiefs Herm\Carl take Chiefs to new low!!! - Page 5

**dirk digler** · 10-14-2008, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

It's real easy any player that's worth their salt wants out because Carl is a ****IN megalomaniac prick, and Herm is clueless to how to conduct and coach a team.

pretty much

FAX · 10-14-2008, 03:08 PM

You don't need to be a psychic to realize what's happening to this team.

1. Our head coach is a doofus.
2. Our defense is worse than ever.
3. Our offense is worse than ever.
4. Our special teams are worse than ever. (The MVP notwithstanding.)
5. When panicked, we run the sloption.
6. Herm can blame every conceivable screw up on "youth" and "rebuilding".
7. Smart, competitive, veteran players who like winning don't need this.
8. Herm sells bullshit by the truckload.
9. When players aren't buying, he gets pissy.

Add it all up, and you have the ingredients for severe implosion. Which, in the long run, may not be a bad thing.

FAX

Reerun_KC · 10-14-2008, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX

You don't need to be a psychic to realize what's happening to this team.

1. Our head coach is a doofus.
2. Our defense is worse than ever.
3. Our offense is worse than ever.
4. Our special teams are worse than ever. (The MVP notwithstanding.)
5. When panicked, we run the sloption.
6. Herm can blame every conceivable screw up on "youth" and "rebuilding".
7. Smart, competitive, veteran players who like winning don't need this.
8. Herm sells bullshit by the truckload.
9. When players aren't buying, he gets pissy.

Add it all up, and you have the ingredients for severe implosion. Which, in the long run, may not be a bad thing.

FAX

Sadly Fax, you nailed it...

beach tribe · 10-14-2008, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX

You don't need to be a psychic to realize what's happening to this team.

1. Our head coach is a doofus.
2. Our defense is worse than ever.
3. Our offense is worse than ever.
4. Our special teams are worse than ever. (The MVP notwithstanding.)
5. When panicked, we run the sloption.
6. Herm can blame every conceivable screw up on "youth" and "rebuilding".
7. Smart, competitive, veteran players who like winning don't need this.
8. Herm sells bullshit by the truckload.
9. When players aren't buying, he gets pissy.

Add it all up, and you have the ingredients for severe implosion. Which, in the long run, may not be a bad thing.

FAX

And those are the FAX.

CoMoChief · 10-14-2008, 03:13 PM

It's gotten to the point where the players (minus Waters.....good lord he needs to grow a pair and speek his mind) are not following Herm's plan......

This offense doesn't allow anyone to develope. We look like we don't belong on a football field on offense. It might the worst offense I've ever seen.....not kidding.

Eventually the losing falls directly and solely on the coaching staff....and in this case we have the most stubborn coach in the NFL that refuses to change anything......results still the same......then he sits on the sidelines not knowing what th **** to do.....

Eventually players lose all their hope.......now they are going into the game KNOWING they are about to get their asses handed to them.

**petegz28** · 10-14-2008, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

It's gotten to the point where the players (minus Waters.....good lord he needs to grow a pair and speek his mind) are not following Herm's plan......

This offense doesn't allow anyone to develope. We look like we don't belong on a football field on offense. It might the worst offense I've ever seen.....not kidding.

Eventually the losing falls directly and solely on the coaching staff....and in this case we have the most stubborn coach in the NFL that refuses to change anything......results still the same......then he sits on the sidelines not knowing what th **** to do.....

Eventually players lose all their hope.......now they are going into the game KNOWING they are about to get their asses handed to them.

That's the part that gets me. 3 years in and we look exactly the same only worse on D. We still can't get a 1st down until 2 min to go in the half, we still can't run for more than 1 yard on 1st down, we still can't throw for more than 2 yards at a time no matter who the QB is.

The fact McInstosh is still on the field is evidence that Herm is the biggest dumb **** in the NFL.

And no Hermy-Humping, Carl-Coddlingm Warpaint, Nick "The Erroneous One" Athan, or any other jock strap, douche in this world can defend what is going on with this team right now.

This coach and GM have allowed the Chiefs to become the laughing stock of the NFL. The mere fact we are even mentioned in the same breath as Detroit is proof positive that Carl and Herm are idiots and need to be fired.

RedThat · 10-14-2008, 03:21 PM

Imo, we aren't competitive because we have one of the worst FO's in the league.

they can talk about rebuilding all they want. but the real rebuilding never took place inside the FO. It's one thing to get players, its another thing when you have a FO that is not capable of getting good players.

If you look around the league, most organizations that are successful have a great front office. why were teams like Cincinatti bad for so many years? Because mike Brown is a bad owner. Why have the Lions not had any success? And a lot of us will say because of Matt Millen. And thats true.

The Raiders have been basement dwellers of the league for the past 6 seasons now? Al Davis is half the man he used to be..He's done, and not the same. It happens we get old.

But really I am not pleased at all with the Chiefs ownership. Clark has shown to much patience, loyalty, and treats his own FO like family. In todays world of sports that doesn't equate to success. It's one thing when you suck, but when you can't make changes? Oh boy

jspchief · 10-14-2008, 03:29 PM

The only thing we know for a fact about the Tait situation is that Chicago offered more than KC was willing to (or should have) paid. We can speculate about the Tait Carl relationship and what effect it may have had on re-signing him, but it's only speculation. Money is why we lost Tait. Period.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-14-2008, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

The only thing we know for a fact about the Tait situation is that Chicago offered more than KC was willing to (or should have) paid. We can speculate about the Tait Carl relationship and what effect it may have had on re-signing him, but it's only speculation. Money is why we lost Tait. Period.

Ding.

Sure-Oz · 10-14-2008, 03:32 PM

I'm glad Tait didn't become our LJ of the offensive line, now only if we can throw away Mcinpussy

CoMoChief · 10-14-2008, 03:34 PM

People will stay at home and wont go to games. Blackouts will come......Chiefs won't make as much money.......Carl will be out of a job.

Sure-Oz · 10-14-2008, 03:35 PM

This sunday's game going to be blacked out?? I wan't to see Gonzo's celebration hehe

RedThat · 10-14-2008, 03:42 PM

How do ppl know if Carl or Herm are going to lose their job?

It's all wishful thinking. Look at this organization? People who have followed them closely and known them for years how they operate. They hardly make changes.

The Chiefs rarely fire ppl. Vermeil resigned. Schottemheimer the same. They were horrible in the 80's and still kept Steadman in the FO. Coincedence Carl is still here? Wouldn't surprise me if Herm is next year as well.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-14-2008, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBull

They were horrible in the 80's and still kept Steadman in the FO.

You know, Steadman and company may have been awful at choosing head coaches but they were pretty damn good at loading the roster with a shit ton of talent.

When Marty took over, Okoye, Palmer, Alt, Maas, Dino Hackett, Deron Cherry, Lloyd Burrus, Albert Lewis, Mike Bell, Stephone Paige, Jonathon Hayes, Neil Smith, Steve DeBerg, Rich Baldinger, Carlos Carson, Nick Lowery, Kevin Porter, JC Pearson, Kevin Ross and Alfredo Roberts were all on the roster.

Compare that to the Chiefs of 2006. Or 2007. Or 2008.

RedThat · 10-14-2008, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You know, Steadman and company may have been awful at choosing head coaches but they were pretty damn good at loading the roster with a shit ton of talent.

When Marty took over, Okoye, Palmer, Alt, Maas, Dino Hackett, Deron Cherry, Lloyd Burrus, Albert Lewis, Mike Bell, Stephone Paige, Jonathon Hayes, Neil Smith, Steve DeBerg, Rich Baldinger, Carlos Carson, Nick Lowery, Kevin Porter, JC Pearson, Kevin Ross and Alfredo Roberts were all on the roster.

Compare that to the Chiefs of 2006. Or 2007. Or 2008.

Well it goes to show..In the NFL, The guys in charge upstairs have to be capable of doing both bringing in the right players, and the right set of coaches as well.

The job of a GM is not easy.

10-14-2008, 03:08 PM	#2
FAX testing ... 1, 2, 3 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tennessee Casino cash: $6753759	You don't need to be a psychic to realize what's happening to this team. 1. Our head coach is a doofus. 2. Our defense is worse than ever. 3. Our offense is worse than ever. 4. Our special teams are worse than ever. (The MVP notwithstanding.) 5. When panicked, we run the sloption. 6. Herm can blame every conceivable screw up on "youth" and "rebuilding". 7. Smart, competitive, veteran players who like winning don't need this. 8. Herm sells bullshit by the truckload. 9. When players aren't buying, he gets pissy. Add it all up, and you have the ingredients for severe implosion. Which, in the long run, may not be a bad thing. FAX
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10-14-2008, 03:13 PM	#5
CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $7672254	It's gotten to the point where the players (minus Waters.....good lord he needs to grow a pair and speek his mind) are not following Herm's plan...... This offense doesn't allow anyone to develope. We look like we don't belong on a football field on offense. It might the worst offense I've ever seen.....not kidding. Eventually the losing falls directly and solely on the coaching staff....and in this case we have the most stubborn coach in the NFL that refuses to change anything......results still the same......then he sits on the sidelines not knowing what th **** to do..... Eventually players lose all their hope.......now they are going into the game KNOWING they are about to get their asses handed to them. __________________
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10-14-2008, 03:21 PM	#7
RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	Imo, we aren't competitive because we have one of the worst FO's in the league. they can talk about rebuilding all they want. but the real rebuilding never took place inside the FO. It's one thing to get players, its another thing when you have a FO that is not capable of getting good players. If you look around the league, most organizations that are successful have a great front office. why were teams like Cincinatti bad for so many years? Because mike Brown is a bad owner. Why have the Lions not had any success? And a lot of us will say because of Matt Millen. And thats true. The Raiders have been basement dwellers of the league for the past 6 seasons now? Al Davis is half the man he used to be..He's done, and not the same. It happens we get old. But really I am not pleased at all with the Chiefs ownership. Clark has shown to much patience, loyalty, and treats his own FO like family. In todays world of sports that doesn't equate to success. It's one thing when you suck, but when you can't make changes? Oh boy
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jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $9998710	The only thing we know for a fact about the Tait situation is that Chicago offered more than KC was willing to (or should have) paid. We can speculate about the Tait Carl relationship and what effect it may have had on re-signing him, but it's only speculation. Money is why we lost Tait. Period. __________________ Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all.
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CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $7672254	People will stay at home and wont go to games. Blackouts will come......Chiefs won't make as much money.......Carl will be out of a job. __________________
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10-14-2008, 03:42 PM	#13
RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	How do ppl know if Carl or Herm are going to lose their job? It's all wishful thinking. Look at this organization? People who have followed them closely and known them for years how they operate. They hardly make changes. The Chiefs rarely fire ppl. Vermeil resigned. Schottemheimer the same. They were horrible in the 80's and still kept Steadman in the FO. Coincedence Carl is still here? Wouldn't surprise me if Herm is next year as well.
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