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Old 01-20-2015, 10:38 PM  
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Pats Cheating Comfirmed
According to the report, the league sources say the NFL determined 11 of the 12 footballs used by the Patriots were under-inflated by two pounds per square inch each. Per NFL rules, footballs are required to be inflated between 12.5 and 13.5 PSI and weigh between 14 and 15 ounces.

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Old 01-23-2015, 08:20 PM   #1231
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Really? Because we seem to be talking about it right now.

The key difference being that most people don't know about what the Donks did. Social Media didn't exist and we didn't have a 24 hour news wire reporting on it.
If NE wins the SB 5 years from now, nobody will give a flying **** nor should they.

The reason I brought up Denver is the point that teams attempt to circumvent the rules all the time. They get caught every now and again.

This is nothing new nor should it be treated like Pearl Harbor.

They got busted, they will be fined and they will lose draft picks.

Move on, it didn't even effect the game which has been proven by the fact the 2nd half after the balls were reinflated they really blew them out.

Shit maybe an Indy spy deflated them too far thinking it would cause issues for Brady, he had a worse 1st half. Ever think of that?
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Old 01-23-2015, 08:25 PM   #1232
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BenJarvus Green-Ellis had 0 fumbles in 4 years with the Patriots, then proceeded to fumble 5 times in 2 years with the Bengals.
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Old 01-23-2015, 08:26 PM   #1233
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I was at that game. The bullshit that ensued from the league was worse than the cheating.

The Broncos were allowed to go to the sidelines and "wipe off". They should have been all tossed from the game at worst but at the least, made to shower and change jerseys and oh yea, BTW, we aren't holding up the game for you, either.
It was a common practice. Golic was talking about it this week in the context of games he played in, nothing to do with KC/Denver.
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Old 01-23-2015, 08:27 PM   #1234
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It was a common practice. Golic was talking about it this week in the context of games he played in, nothing to do with KC/Denver.
Cheating was common practice? Go figure.
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Old 01-23-2015, 08:29 PM   #1235
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I mean if that chart is correct the pats and saints and even atlanta are EXTREMELY deviated from the mean...


i am not going to do a standard deviation, i will leave that to others but jesus it seems like the pats are like 3 standard deviations(rough estimate) away from the mean...which has a VERY VERY low chance (less than 1%) almost to the point where they would be an outlier that would be ignored
If only I could figure out the relationship between the Pats and the Falcons. Pats and Falcons... Hmmm... How are they related?
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Old 01-23-2015, 08:31 PM   #1236
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Lol the New England Deflatriots versus the Seadderall Seahawks.
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Old 01-23-2015, 08:40 PM   #1237
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Same thing for Browns texting?

Vikings and Jags heating balls?

Or do only the Patriots get punished because everyone is sick of them winning?

You may well be right that that is what the NFL will do, but it doesn't exactly seem fair to "drop the hammer" on the Patriots while doing nothing to other teams. The vikes and jags got a "don't do that again" "punishment".
Is it because of how much they win, or how they consistently do it? What do you think they have gotten away with, and how long? I know. Nothing. They're choir boys.
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Old 01-23-2015, 08:43 PM   #1238
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Meh, no point feeding the frenzy anymore. I'll wait on some actual, verified facts. The Patriots are dead in the court of public opinion anyway -- regardless of whether the reports are substantiated, verified, or completely baseless, nothing will change that.
This is where we can agree. Until there's real evidence nothing can really be done.
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Old 01-23-2015, 08:50 PM   #1239
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Lol the New England Deflatriots versus the Seadderall Seahawks.
Cheating bastards vs doped up cheating bastards.

Interesting I haven't heard anyone discuss all the Seahawk suspensions over the last few years.
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It was a common practice. Golic was talking about it this week in the context of games he played in, nothing to do with KC/Denver.
I'm certain it was acommon practice. What was uncommon was stopping the game and allowing these players to go to the sideline to get wiped off. Should have been a delay penalty at the least.
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Old 01-23-2015, 08:58 PM   #1241
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Old 01-23-2015, 09:03 PM   #1242
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Ok serious question:

is the OP's title correct?

is it REALLY confirmed that the pats cheated?

I am not following this story that closely

I understand the balls pressure were low but has it been confirmed 100% this was some intentional cheating? did the refs actually 100% say they checked the balls before kickoff?

(I noticed they checked the balls AT half time....but did they check them before the game and the pressure was fine?)
Why do people jump into a thread with over 1,000 posts and ask questions that have literally been asked and answered dozens of times already?

You're not the only one to do this, Pawnmower. Several others have done the same thing. But JFC, the questions you asked have been asked and answered ad nauseum in this thread, on every sports talk radio station, and all day long for the last couple of days on ESPN and other networks.
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Old 01-23-2015, 09:07 PM   #1243
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Cheating bastards vs doped up cheating bastards.

Interesting I haven't heard anyone discuss all the Seahawk suspensions over the last few years.
I agree with you about most of this, but I do think it's a way bigger deal because of the reputation that proceeds the key parts of the Cheatriots. And it's clearly deserved. They'll need proof to actually do anything, but these scumbags don't deserve the benefit of the doubt, and they are absolutely killing the integrity of the entire league in the eyes of a lot of long time fans.
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Actually dude was out of bounds. Now, did his toe touch down before his heel? Too close to call but he was out. I would say more that they ****ed us with a holding call on a FG attempt.
Dude had a knee in bounds before the foot, 1 knee = 2 feet...
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