*****Official 2019/2020 Kansas Men's Basketball Repository Thread*****

[saphojunkie]

Welcome back, my friends.

The night is dark and full of sophomores. We were due a down year, but it's back to hunting banners.

Thread to be updated as new developments emerge.


RETURNING PLAYERS:

#35 Udoka Azubuike - Sr.

#44 Mitch Lightfoot - Sr.

#0 Marcus Garrett - Jr.

#22 Silvio De Sousa - Jr. (!!!!!)

#11 Devon Dotson - Soph.

#30 Ochai Agbaji - Soph.

#33 David McCormack - Soph.

#12 Chris Teahan - Jr.

#20 Garrett Luinstra - Soph.

#10 Elijah Elliott - Soph.


LEAVING PLAYERS:

#1 Dedric Lawson - DRAFT

#13 K.J. Lawson - TRANSFER

#2 Charlie Moore - CRUSHED BY A DWARF

#5 Quentin Grimes - TRANSFER


INCOMING PLAYERS:



SF Jalen Wilson****

6'8" 215 lbs
47 NATIONAL
9 POSITION


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SF Christian Braun ****
6'6" 180lb
90 NATIONAL
24 POSITION


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SF Tristan Enaruna ****
6'9" 205lb
44 NATIONAL
25 POSITION


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TRANSFER Isaiah Moss
SENIOR
6'5" 208lb

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IMPORTANT GAMES:

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University of Kansas Athletics
2019-20 Men's Basketball Schedule
Subject to change. All times Central.


NOV 5 (TUE) TBA VS DUKE
STATE FARM CHAMPIONS CLASSIC
NEW YORK, N.Y. MADISON SQUARE GARDEN
MAUI INVITATIONAL
ESPN

NOV 25 (MON) - NOV 27 (WED) vs TBD
MAUI INVITATIONAL
LAHAINA, HAWAII LAHAINA CIVIC CENTER

DEC 21 (SAT) AT VILLANOVA
VILLANOVA, PA. WELLS FARGO ARENA

DEC 29 (SUN) AT STANFORD
STANFORD, CALIF. MAPLES PAVILION
PHILLIPS 66 BIG 12 CHAMPIONSHIP

MAR 11 (WED) VS TBA
BIG 12 FIRST ROUND
KANSAS CITY, MO. SPRINT CENTER

MAR 12 (THU) VS TBA
BIG 12 QUARTERFINAL
KANSAS CITY, MO. SPRINT CENTER

MAR 13 (FRI) VS TBA
BIG 12 SEMIFINAL
KANSAS CITY, MO. SPRINT CENTER

MAR 14 (SAT) VS TBA
BIG 12 FINAL
KANSAS CITY, MO. SPRINT CENTER
NCAA MEN'S BASKETBALL CHAMPIONSHIP

MAR 19 (THU)
MAR 20 (FRI)
NCAA FIRST ROUND
ALBANY, N.Y. / SPOKANE, WASH. / ST. LOUIS, MO. / TAMPA, FLA. / GREENSBORO, N.C. / OMAHA, NEB. / SACRAMENTO, CALIF. / CLEVELAND, OHIO

MAR 21 (SAT) MAR 22 (SUN)
CBS / TURNER
NCAA SECOND ROUND
ALBANY, N.Y. / SPOKANE, WASH. / ST. LOUIS, MO. / TAMPA, FLA. / GREENSBORO, N.C. / OMAHA, NEB. / SACRAMENTO, CALIF. / CLEVELAND, OHIO

MAR 26 (THU) MAR 27 (FRI)
NCAA SWEET SIXTEEN
INDIANAPOLIS, IND. / LOS ANGELES, CALIF. / HOUSTON, TEXAS / NEW YORK, N.Y.

MAR 28 (SAT) MAR 29 (SUN)
NCAA ELITE EIGHT
INDIANAPOLIS, IND. / LOS ANGELES, CALIF. / HOUSTON, TEXAS / NEW YORK, N.Y.

APR 4 (SAT)
NCAA FINAL FOUR
ATLANTA, GA. MERCEDES-BENZ STADIUM

APR 6 (MON)
NCAA CHAMPIONSHIP
ATLANTA, GA. MERCEDES-BENZ STADIUM

[ROYC75]

In !

[TLO]

In

[Prison Bitch]

Berth, and we didn’t get to the S16

[BigRedChief]

Surely will go better than last year. If not, let’s blame Sappo.

[saphojunkie]

Berth, and we didn’t get to the S16

That does read weird. I meant just getting to a sweet 16 is a banner year, for us it was annoying that we didn't. But we should go get a Final Four instead.

[CoMoChief]

Is there anyone worth a shit in the juco circuit?

[Pablo]

If we don't win in all this year Self gotsta go!!!

[Pablo]

Is there anyone worth a shit in the juco circuit?You're gonna need an ISU fan to chime in on that, don't think anyone here follows that stuff.

[Prison Bitch]

With AZ: top 5

Without: 21-30

[Buehler445]

Surely will go better than last year. If not, let’s blame Sappo.

Ummmmmm


Like.......


It’s not looking great.

Lawson being gone is a giant chunk of the production. And azabuke hasn’t made a full season. Dotson is good. Pretty much garbage all around.

[CoMoChief]

Team needs shooters. Cuz right now they ain't got none.

[TribalElder]

Oh

[ROYC75]

If we don't win in all this year Self gotsta go!!!

Say wut? :spock:

[ROYC75]

We need 2 very athletic scorers. Prefer a 2 & a 4, good shooters, then finish the roster filling in quality depth.
We gotta turn up the defense somehow!

[smithandrew051]

I’m not too optimistic for next year.

2006-07 was a year for optimism with a core of sophomores. We were the reigning Big 12 regular and tourney champs. We brought everyone who mattered back. We were also bringing in 2 big time recruits (Collins and Arthur). The team was already made up of proven winners and was only getting better.

This time, we have a core of sophomores who haven’t won anything. No big time recruits are coming in (so far). We’re losing our most productive player. If Doke comes back, we can’t count on him being healthy.

3rd or 4th in the Big 12 and a 5 seed is probably an accurate expectation for 2019-2020 (unless the recruiting news significantly changes).

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Do we know when the top recruits are due to declare?

[farmerchief]

Is there anyone worth a shit in the juco circuit?
How about this guy? James Reese

In 29 games this season at Odessa, Reese is averaging 16.1 points per game on 52.9 percent from the field and 45.3 percent from three-point range. He's a strong free-throw shooter at 87.9 percent from the charity stripe and grabs 2.7 rebounds and 2.1 assists per game.

[Prison Bitch]

I’m not too optimistic for next year.

2006-07 was a year for optimism with a core of sophomores. We were the reigning Big 12 regular and tourney champs. We brought everyone who mattered back. We were also bringing in 2 big time recruits (Collins and Arthur). The team was already made up of proven winners and was only getting better.

This time, we have a core of sophomores who haven’t won anything. No big time recruits are coming in (so far). We’re losing our most productive player. If Doke comes back, we can’t count on him being healthy.

3rd or 4th in the Big 12 and a 5 seed is probably an accurate expectation for 2019-2020 (unless the recruiting news significantly changes).



Man, where did all the negative nancies cum from? We are Kansas and as such will always be good unless proved otherwise. A team of

Dotson
Grimes
Agbaji
Mitch
McCormack

Is better talent than anyone in our league and more than about all but 16 teams. With AZ in there it’s top 5-7. Everyone is looking at roster turnover - look at who Dook and KY are losing.

[smithandrew051]

Do we know when the top recruits are due to declare?

Matt Hurt is announcing on 4/19

[smithandrew051]

Man, where did all the negative nancies cum from? We are Kansas and as such will always be good unless proved otherwise. A team of

Dotson
Grimes
Agbaji
Mitch
McCormack

Is better talent than anyone in our league and more than about all but 16 teams. With AZ in there it’s top 5-7. Everyone is looking at roster turnover - look at who Dook and KY are losing.

Duke and UK are losing a lot, but they also both have 3 top 40 recruits signed already.

I don’t see a reason to believe we’ll be much better than last year unless something drastically changes on the recruiting front. Any increase in productivity by the returning players may well be offset by losing Lawson.

I have zero faith that Doke will stay healthy if he returns. He’s had 4 injuries in 3 seasons.

[Mr. Kotter]

I suspect a couple of the available guys from this list might be worth at least a look? :shrug:

Rank Name Height School Position

4 Khadim Sy 6'10 Daytona State PF
10 Tajzmel Sherman 6'4 Collin County CG
11 Tyson Jolly 6'4 Trinity Valley G/F
12 Wilfried Likayi 6'9 Casper F
13 Tomas Woldetensae 6'5 Indian Hills G
17 Javon Franklin 6'7 Holmes CC PF
19 Marvin Johnson 6'6 Coffeyville SF
21 Brandon Rachal 6'6 Pearl River G
22 Keishawn Brewton 6'3 Chipola CG
23 Trey Wade 6'7 South Plains G/F
24 David Sloan 6'1 John A Logan PG
31 David Nickleberry 6'7 Trinity Valley G/F
32 James Reese 6'4 Odessa SG
33 AJ Bramah 6'7 Sheridan SF
34 James Jean-Marie 6'7 Navarro SF
37 Emmanuel Ugboh 6'11 Iowa Western C
38 Lony Francis Jr 6'7 Vincennes PF
39 Malik Curry 6'2 Palm Beach State PG
40 Raquan Wilkins 6'5 Lee College PG
41 Yeikson Montero 6'5 Pensacola State SG
42 Trey Pulliam 6'3 Navarro G
47 Galen Alexander 6'6 Jones County F
48 Luka Barisic 6'9 Highland F
49 Rich Washington 6'6 Tallahassee SF
50 Shakem Johnson 6'7 Navarro PF

51 Adrean Johnson 6'10 Odessa PF
53 Donte Tatum 6'2 Cape Fear PG
54 Jaekwon Carlyle 6'2 Grayson CG
56 Deang Deang 6'4 Highland CG
58 Kimani Binder 6'3 Indian River State SG
59 Maddox Daniels 6'6 Florida Southwestern State SG
60 Isiah Small 6'8 Seward County SF
61 Eric Lovett 6'4 Missouri West Plains SG
63 Isaac Bonton 6'3 Casper CG
65 RayQuan Evans 6'4 North Idaho G
66 Doudou Gueye 6'8 Daytona State SF/PF
68 Alfonso Plummer 6'1 Arizona Western CG
69 Alsean Evans 6'6 Polk State SF
70 Bitumba Baruti 6'6 Chipola F
71 Sebit Reath 6'10 Lee College PF
73 Keith Clemons 6'1 Vincennes CG
74 Cam Reece 6'6 Sheridan PF/C Akron
75 Demarkus Lampley 6'3 Wallace State Hanceville SG
77 Caleb Coleman 6'5 State Fair SF
78 Solomon Hunt 6'8 East Los Angeles PF
79 Kayne Henry 6'7 Northwest Florida State SF
81 Shawn Stith 6'7 Saddleback PF
83 Jalon Pipkins 6'4 Paris G
84 Gavin Kensmil 6'7 Navarro F
85 Lenell Henry 6'7 Panola PF
86 Demiere Brown 6'7 Kilgore PF
90 Tariq Simmons 6'1 Panola PG
91 Kassim Nicholson 6'6 Holmes G/F
92 Tritan Jarrett 6'4 Three Rivers SG
93 Sean Miller-Moore 6'5 Moberly Area SF
94 CJ Roberts 6'0 Broward CG
95 Jonah Antonio 6'4 South Plains SG
98 Kevin Norman 6'4 Angelina Wing
99 Torrey Patton 6'4 Indian Hills G
100 Roti Ware 6'3 East Central G

[Lzen]

Ummmmmm


Like.......


It’s not looking great.

Lawson being gone is a giant chunk of the production. And azabuke hasn’t made a full season. Dotson is good. Pretty much garbage all around.

I realize that AZ is injury prone but that is still not an accurate statement. Did I just imagine that he was available for the entire 2017-2018 season?

[BigRedChief]

If Hurt signs elsewhere, we know that the top shelf recruits are staying away due to the NCAA not publicly clearing KU for the whole Adidas scheme.

[Prison Bitch]

Duke and UK are losing a lot, but they also both have 3 top 40 recruits signed already.

I don’t see a reason to believe we’ll be much better than last year unless something drastically changes on the recruiting front. Any increase in productivity by the returning players may well be offset by losing Lawson.

I have zero faith that Doke will stay healthy if he returns. He’s had 4 injuries in 3 seasons.

But we weren’t better in 18 than 17, the field just came back to us and we went to the FF. Same can happen here. Same happens every year in college hoops. None of these final four teams were heavy betting faves in Vegas. Even UVA had doubters (and they stole 3 games anyway)

[lawrenceRaider]

But we weren’t better in 18 than 17, the field just came back to us and we went to the FF. Same can happen here. Same happens every year in college hoops. None of these final four teams were heavy betting faves in Vegas. Even UVA had doubters (and they stole 3 games anyway)

UVA got some pretty serious help from the refs over their last couple of wins.

Extreme luck in the win or two before that.

[WhawhaWhat]

Do we know when the top recruits are due to declare?

as soon as the check clears.

[CasselGotPeedOn]

If Hurt signs elsewhere, we know that the top shelf recruits are staying away due to the NCAA not publicly clearing KU for the whole Adidas scheme.

Explain how Arizona has the #1 class then?

[Chief Pagan]

Guys. No reason at all for doom and gloom. As shocking as it sounds, Rusty promised me that this time it is going to be Kansas year.

[sedated]

Explain how Arizona has the #1 class then?

And Louisville is in the top 10. Although they purged their coaching staff twice since the FBI deal came out.

Auburn is also in the top 15, and I'd assume most of those commitments were before the tournament.

[ROYC75]

Explain how Arizona has the #1 class then?

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[SithCeNtZ]

Grimes declares. Sure sounds like he is staying in no matter what but who knows.

[DJJasonp]

Grimes declares. Sure sounds like he is staying in no matter what but who knows.

So I guess all those missed shots were because he was in the wrong system?

Please.

Good luck overseas or 'D' league.

[TambaBerry]

thank god, open up some positions for somebody worthwhile. I have never seen a guy dominate high school like he did and then come in and just struggle. I mean some of his shots were so bad it was very ugly

[Prison Bitch]

Grimes was hot garbage. Like Selby or Bragg, he won’t be missed.

[smithandrew051]

Grimes was the most disappointing player of the Self era.

Selby at least had an injury/eligibility excuse.

Alexander has an eligibility excuse (maybe he would’ve gotten better?)

Bragg wasn’t ranked as highly.

[Titty Meat]

Grimes was hot garbage. Like Selby or Bragg, he won’t be missed.

What a difference a page makes

[QUOTE=Prison Bitch;14199939]Man, where did all the negative nancies cum from? We are Kansas and as such will always be good unless proved otherwise. A team of

Dotson
Grimes
Agbaji
Mitch
McCormack

Is better talent than anyone in our league and more than about all but 16 teams. With AZ in there it’s top 5-7. Everyone is looking at roster turnover - look at who Dook and KY are losing.[/QUOTE

[Prison Bitch]

I don’t change my assessment at all. Garrett and Grimes are interchangeable.


Had Dotson or Agbaji left, id have been concerned.

[Pablo]

I don’t change my assessment at all. Garrett and Grimes are interchangeable.


Had Dotson or Agbaji left, id have been concerned.

Garrett will at least give you plus defense. You weren't getting plus anything out of the minutes Grimes was stealing.

[BWillie]

Is Grimes hiring an agent? Surely he's just going for feedback and will come back once he finds out he won't even get drafted.

[Pablo]

Is Grimes hiring an agent? Surely he's just going for feedback and will come back once he finds out he won't even get drafted.

I know the NBA drafts on potential and all that, but what potential did he show this season? He can't hold Ochai's jock and that guy nearly missed this whole season.

[BWillie]

I know the NBA drafts on potential and all that, but what potential did he show this season? He can't hold Ochai's jock and that guy nearly missed this whole season.

I don't see the potential in Grimes. I really don't. I think the recruiting ranking gurus just missed on the kid. I guess he can ride the pine in the G-League and get a $30,000 a year pay check at least.

[CoMoChief]

Grimes was trash...has no business declaring for the NBA. About as unprepared of a player I've seen declare in a long time.

My worry is if this is somewhat "the writing on the wall" of what's to come, as result of this NCAA investigation and some of these guys are getting out now before a hammer drops. Say what you will about Grimes, but he was a top recruit who was going to start next season so PT wouldn't have been an issue, and I think we can all agree that he's not ready for NBA at all given what we've seen this yr. But maybe he's a pussy and didn't like Self getting on his ass all the time. Players are too soft now and look for easy ways out.

This ended up being a terrible year for Bill Self all things considered. Grimes' departure will result in more scholly's opening up but this next recruiting wave to tell a lot about the future of Self's team, and whether or not he can still recruit these top guys despite the NCAA hounding up KU's ass.

[KC_Connection]

Would be shocked if Grimes signs an agent. No NBA team is drafting him right now.

[TambaBerry]

Guys Grimes is gone. He isn't coming back

[Titty Meat]

Guys Grimes is gone. He isn't coming back

He'll go overseas and make 150k a year. Dont know why more kids dont do this college degrees are pretty useless.

[BigRedChief]

He'll go overseas and make 150k a year. Dont know why more kids dont do this college degrees are pretty useless.these top recruits are not going for college degrees. And Europe doesn’t make them more money than a year at a blue blood school. The raise in their draft stock is worth way more than the $150K they can make in Europe.

[arrowheadnation]

Jesus Titties….unless Self pulls one of his patented late signing period horse shoes out of his ass again, we are going to fucking suck next year.

[KC_Connection]

Guys Grimes is gone. He isn't coming back
I'm sure Vick thought the same last year at this time.

[KC_Connection]

He'll go overseas and make 150k a year. Dont know why more kids dont do this college degrees are pretty useless.
Generally agree, but based on the ridiculously bad numbers he just put up in college, I don't know why anybody would pay him significant $$$ overseas either. They want production and he's not going to be able to give it to them right now.

[lawrenceRaider]

Guys Grimes is gone. He isn't coming back

I sure hope so.

His D came up a bit, but man what a mentally fragile offensive player.

[lawrenceRaider]

Grimes was the most disappointing player of the Self era.

Selby at least had an injury/eligibility excuse.

Alexander has an eligibility excuse (maybe he would’ve gotten better?)

Bragg wasn’t ranked as highly.

Alexander definitely would have improved. He had a skill set made for dominating the college level.

[Lzen]

If Hurt signs elsewhere, we know that the top shelf recruits are staying away due to the NCAA not publicly clearing KU for the whole Adidas scheme.

I keep hearing this argument but then I hear that Arizona is doing fine in recruiting. So if it affected Kansas in this way then why not AZ, as well?

[Buehler445]

Alexander definitely would have improved. He had a skill set made for dominating the college level.

He had the body to dominate college ball. He had virtually no skills. He was at his best when Jamari Traylor of all people would find him in a zone.

I find it miraculous that he didn’t even have one post move. Even when defended by a smaller dude.

[Mr. Plow]

Is Grimes hiring an agent? Surely he's just going for feedback and will come back once he finds out he won't even get drafted.

My guess is he'll be back unless he just really wants out of Lawrence. I just don't see any team drafting him.

[Lzen]

My guess is he'll be back unless he just really wants out of Lawrence. I just don't see any team drafting him.

I actually hope this happens. I know a lot of folks don't like Grimes but I saw a guy with talent that got better as the season progressed. A sophomore Grimes could be pretty good.

And for all the love Ogbaji gets on here, people tend to forget that he disappeared down the stretch. I like that guy but you can't ignore that factor. The only reason he gets a pass is that he wasn't projected as a one and done.

[sedated]

I'm sure Vick thought the same last year at this time.

And that worked out so well.

[lawrenceRaider]

He had the body to dominate college ball. He had virtually no skills. He was at his best when Jamari Traylor of all people would find him in a zone.

I find it miraculous that he didn’t even have one post move. Even when defended by a smaller dude.

I think he would have stayed a second year had his mom not hosed him.

[Mr. Plow]

I actually hope this happens. I know a lot of folks don't like Grimes but I saw a guy with talent that got better as the season progressed. A sophomore Grimes could be pretty good.

And for all the love Ogbaji gets on here, people tend to forget that he disappeared down the stretch. I like that guy but you can't ignore that factor. The only reason he gets a pass is that he wasn't projected as a one and done.

I'd be curious to see if Grimes puts things together in year 2. Some kids just need to adjust to a higher level of basketball - I'm hoping he's one that adjusts and turns into the player we thought we were getting.

[Lzen]

And that worked out so well.

Good point but they aren't the same people. Vick always needed to get his head screwed on straight. He just never seemed to get there.

[BigRedChief]

I keep hearing this argument but then I hear that Arizona is doing fine in recruiting. So if it affected Kansas in this way then why not AZ, as well?Its a better scenario for people to believe than Self has lost a step in recruiting?

[Prison Bitch]

He had the body to dominate college ball. He had virtually no skills. He was at his best when Jamari Traylor of all people would find him in a zone.

I find it miraculous that he didn’t even have one post move. Even when defended by a smaller dude.

I don’t agree with that at all. Cliff was very skilled.

[Buehler445]

I don’t agree with that at all. Cliff was very skilled.

:spock: What incredible skills did he display other than being fucking enormous, ridiculously athletic, not missing wide open dunks, and passing the ball out after not scoring on smaller less talented defenders?

[Kiimo]

In his defense dunking the ball as ferociously as possible and rejecting shots into the stands are technically skills.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Is there a certain date that they have to declare whether or not they are coming back?

[Demonpenz]

I keep hearing this argument but then I hear that Arizona is doing fine in recruiting. So if it affected Kansas in this way then why not AZ, as well?

the woman and weather and nightlife in AZ compared to ks

[Prison Bitch]

There’s nightlife in Tucson?

[ROYC75]

Jesus Titties….unless Self pulls one of his patented late signing period horse shoes out of his ass again, we are going to fucking suck next year.

No need to panic grasshopper, trust me HCBS will come out of this late signing period with a couple of blue chippers and a couple of roll players.

[Lzen]

No need to panic grasshopper, trust me HCBS will come out of this late signing period with a couple of blue chippers and a couple of roll players.



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[Lzen]

the woman and weather and nightlife in AZ compared to ks

Weather? Maybe. I'm not buying the other reasons.

[Titty Meat]

Dotson put his name in for the draft

[DanBecky]

I feel empty inside.

[Buehler445]

Dotson put his name in for the draft

That.

That is really bad.

Fuck.

[sedated]

Dotson's tweet says he is maintaining full college eligibility and he's just getting feedback. Seems like a pretty sure thing to come back. We all knew more players were going to declare when they changed the rules.

[DanBecky]

He’s doing what every good freshmen should do. No downside at all. Keep your eligibility open to return if you don’t get the reception you thought you would. Gather some feedback on what scouts want to see from you next year, work on those skills or lack thereof, and implement those into your game the following season.

Having said that, man I hope this kid stays at KU. Next season looking rough already.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

When is the deadline for players who have declared for the draft to return to school?

[TambaBerry]

May 30th

[BigRedChief]

He’s doing what every good freshmen should do. No downside at all. Keep your eligibility open to return if you don’t get the reception you thought you would. Gather some feedback on what scouts want to see from you next year, work on those skills or lack thereof, and implement those into your game the following season.

Having said that, man I hope this kid stays at KU. Next season looking rough already.I thought we'd get 3 years out of him, maybe 4. Now we are only going to get 2 seasons? The NBA needs fast dribblers to drive the lane and then feed it out to their 3 point shooters?

[Prison Bitch]

Every player even down to Garrett should put their name in and get feedback now

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Jesus Titties….unless Self pulls one of his patented late signing period horse shoes out of his ass again, we are going to ****ing suck next year.

I think they’re likely to have a good backcourt as long as Dotson returns. Frontcourt is a concern. Since it’s beginning to seem like they’re going to strike out on the big names, we really need one or both of De Sousa and Azubuike back. Get them both, add a grad transfer who can shoot (or snag Hampton) and suddenly we’re looking damn good. Maybe not a likely scenario, but I think there’s at least a solid chance of De Sousa appealing successfully.

Dotson/McBride
Agbaji/Braun
Grad transfer/Garrett
De Sousa/Lightfoot
McCormack/Grad transfer

This would be a solid team. McBride is underrated. Very good scorer. Gets high on his jumper. I think his skills will translate to college quickly. This would likely be a very good defensive and rebounding crew.

Just give me an eligible De Sousa and a grad transfer wing who can shoot, and I’m ready for battle.

[BWillie]

Every player even down to Garrett should put their name in and get feedback now

The funny thing is if Garrett could shoot as well as Vick, he'd be a lotto pick. He's just soo soo bad at it.

[ROYC75]

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Ha .... ha ha!

:D

[smithandrew051]

I think they’re likely to have a good backcourt as long as Dotson returns. Frontcourt is a concern. Since it’s beginning to seem like they’re going to strike out on the big names, we really need one or both of De Sousa and Azubuike back. Get them both, add a grad transfer who can shoot (or snag Hampton) and suddenly we’re looking damn good. Maybe not a likely scenario, but I think there’s at least a solid chance of De Sousa appealing successfully.

Dotson/McBride
Agbaji/Braun
Grad transfer/Garrett
De Sousa/Lightfoot
McCormack/Grad transfer

This would be a solid team. McBride is underrated. Very good scorer. Gets high on his jumper. I think his skills will translate to college quickly. This would likely be a very good defensive and rebounding crew.

Just give me an eligible De Sousa and a grad transfer wing who can shoot, and I’m ready for battle.

I see your point and I agree, but that’s a lot of “if’s”.

If we don’t land an impact grad transfer, Dotson stays in the draft, and De Sousa remains ineligible (basically if everything stays as it currently is), we’re looking at an awful Kansas team on paper.

Staring lineup of:

McBride
Agbaji
Garett
Lightfoot
McCormack

And a bench of:

Braun
And......uh.......

That team is probably an 8 or 9 seed and probably finishes in the middle of the road in the Big 12.

[Titty Meat]

Losing recruiting battles to Nebraska. Sad.

https://journalstar.com/sports/huskers/mens-basketball/jervay-green-will-remain-a-husker-as-juco-guard-reaffirms/article_e85335b4-1672-5abe-bf62-35f7ffa98091.html

[smithandrew051]

Matt Hurt is set to announce where he will play college ball. Most people are assuming Duke at this point. We were the leader for a long time, but seems like people think we’re out.

Hopefully, we’ll be pleasantly surprised today.

[sedated]

Matt Hurt is set to announce where he will play college ball. Most people are assuming Duke at this point. We were the leader for a long time, but seems like people think we’re out.

Hopefully, we’ll be pleasantly surprised today.

Pretty sure I heard he cancelled his visit to KU.

[CasselGotPeedOn]

I see your point and I agree, but that’s a lot of “if’s”.

If we don’t land an impact grad transfer, Dotson stays in the draft, and De Sousa remains ineligible (basically if everything stays as it currently is), we’re looking at an awful Kansas team on paper.

Staring lineup of:

McBride
Agbaji
Garett
Lightfoot
McCormack

And a bench of:

Braun
And......uh.......

That team is probably an 8 or 9 seed and probably finishes in the middle of the road in the Big 12.

LMAO That's an NIT team if I've ever seen one.

[BWillie]

If Matthew Hurt comes to Kansas, I'll pay for hookers for everyone ITT.

[arrowheadnation]

Sam Mellinger
‏
Verified account

@mellinger
4 minutes ago

Met with Silvio De Sousa and his lawyer. He will declare for the draft. If he wins the appeal he’ll return to Kansas. If not, he won’t. Much more soon.



Matt Tait
‏
@mctait
7 minutes ago

Just met with Silvio and his attorney and his plan is to come back if the appeal is granted. Attorney says ruling could come next week. #KUbball

[BWillie]

Sam Mellinger
‏
Verified account

@mellinger
4 minutes ago

Met with Silvio De Sousa and his lawyer. He will declare for the draft. If he wins the appeal he’ll return to Kansas. If not, he won’t. Much more soon.



Matt Tait
‏
@mctait
7 minutes ago

Just met with Silvio and his attorney and his plan is to come back if the appeal is granted. Attorney says ruling could come next week. #KUbball

He's not going to win the appeal. So best of luck kiddo.

[arrowheadnation]

Damn, Matthew Hurt to Duke. No hookers from BWillie. I was going to go for an Asian with pointy nipples too.

[Prison Bitch]

He's not going to win the appeal. So best of luck kiddo.

You don’t know that

[smithandrew051]

It’s all on paper at this point, but it sure looks like we are headed for the type of down year that we haven’t seen in a long time.

[sedated]

He's not going to win the appeal. So best of luck kiddo.

The appeal is not through the NCAA, so that might help.

[TambaBerry]

Lol some fans are so whiny, it's always doom and gloom

[BWillie]

Damn, Matthew Hurt to Duke. No hookers from BWillie. I was going to go for an Asian with pointy nipples too.

I was going to buy trannies for you girly men anyway

[BWillie]

It’s all on paper at this point, but it sure looks like we are headed for the type of down year that we haven’t seen in a long time.

Mitch Lightfoot dynasty mother fuckers.

[Imon Yourside]

Is it time to start panicking?

[ROYC75]

If Matthew Hurt comes to Kansas, I'll pay for hookers for everyone ITT.

Naw, he has visited, just canceled his last 2 coaches to visit this week, Self and Calipari.

Roy and Mike got to visit him this week. They stopped the last 2 because 4 coaches in 1 day was too much for Matt.

[Buehler445]

If we catch anything outside of the kids that have taken money and Duke UK UNC/everybody else gets nothing I’m burning the NCAA to the ground.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Soooooo….Dok?

[InvinciBill]

Soooooo….Dok?

He's back.

[SithCeNtZ]

He's back.

This is why it was so dumb people were freaking out about Kansas missing recruits in the front court. It has nothing to do with the NCAA stuff. It's the fact that we could have tons of playing time or none at all and there isn't any way to know so why would a top 10 recruit come here? And look what has happened. Now it's entirely possible our front court is Doke, Mac, Lightfoot, and De Sousa for this season. It would be pretty tough for someone else to get PT, and that's probably a top 5 front court this year.

[smithandrew051]

This is why it was so dumb people were freaking out about Kansas missing recruits in the front court. It has nothing to do with the NCAA stuff. It's the fact that we could have tons of playing time or none at all and there isn't any way to know so why would a top 10 recruit come here? And look what has happened. Now it's entirely possible our front court is Doke, Mac, Lightfoot, and De Sousa for this season. It would be pretty tough for someone else to get PT, and that's probably a top 5 front court this year.

De Sousa has to win an appeal. That’s possible, but shouldn’t be counted on. Look how long it took to make a ruling last year. Look how long it took for rulings on Selby and Diallo. I would be shocked (but pleasantly surprised) if there is a positive ruling prior to the NBA Draft.

Im happy Doke is back....but I’m not relying on him to play a full season. He’s missed time with 4 injuries in 3 seasons (including 2 season ending injuries).

[sedated]

There is always freaking out when missing on recruits. But I don't think this year it was necessarily unwarranted. This team was in shambles at the end of last year, and hasn't added...much of anything (regardless of the good news about Doke).

[Scaga]

and they just lost out to cassius stanley as well....another dukie

[Prison Bitch]

This is why it was so dumb people were freaking out about Kansas missing recruits in the front court. It has nothing to do with the NCAA stuff. It's the fact that we could have tons of playing time or none at all and there isn't any way to know so why would a top 10 recruit come here? And look what has happened. Now it's entirely possible our front court is Doke, Mac, Lightfoot, and De Sousa for this season. It would be pretty tough for someone else to get PT, and that's probably a top 5 front court this year.

Too 5???? Shit, that’s easily the best in the sport. Embarrassment of Riches


If Dotson returns we are a surefire top 8 team.

[lawrenceRaider]

De Sousa has to win an appeal. That’s possible, but shouldn’t be counted on. Look how long it took to make a ruling last year. Look how long it took for rulings on Selby and Diallo. I would be shocked (but pleasantly surprised) if there is a positive ruling prior to the NBA Draft.

Im happy Doke is back....but I’m not relying on him to play a full season. He’s missed time with 4 injuries in 3 seasons (including 2 season ending injuries).

The appeal has a specific timeline, and isn't in the mainline NCAA process that can take as long as they want it to take. We'll know shortly.

[BWillie]

Well Doke coming back is helpful. Sure hope he doesn't get injured again.

[saphojunkie]

Updated OP

[saphojunkie]

I heard a rumor from a very good source (the Phog Allen family) that there is a bunch of chatter that we're going to hear good news today.

correct thread

I was not high on last years team, even before the season I mentioned how I was puzzled we were preseason #1. This team, with SDS, Dotson, Hampton and Udoka is a legitimate National Champion threat.


Great point... for the right thread.

[saphojunkie]

MODS -- can we please change this thread title to have proper formatting:

***** Official 2019-2020 Kansas Men's Basketball Repository Thread *****

Also, close the 2018 thread so people stop posting info in there.

Thank you!

[Kiimo]

Sorry.

If Dotson comes back and De Sousa is cleared and RJ commits this team is going to be really really good.

Something about the "golden era" of recruiting being over. This is gonna make Kevin Kietzman leave twitter if it happens.

[saphojunkie]

Sorry.

If Dotson comes back and De Sousa is cleared and RJ commits this team is going to be really really good.

Something about the "golden era" of recruiting being over. This is gonna make Kevin Kietzman leave twitter if it happens.

Would be so beautiful.

[Imon Yourside]

Sorry.

If Dotson comes back and De Sousa is cleared and RJ commits this team is going to be really really good.

Something about the "golden era" of recruiting being over. This is gonna make Kevin Kietzman leave twitter if it happens.

LMAO Well I hope De sousa is cleared and RJ commits, we need some good news.

[smithandrew051]

We signed Tristan Enaruna. Could be another Svi-type of player. Young, 6’8” wing, will be here 3-4 years. Nice pickup.

https://kansas.rivals.com/news/enaruna-signs-with-kansas

[saphojunkie]

We signed Tristan Enaruna. Could be another Svi-type of player. Young, 6’8” wing, will be here 3-4 years. Nice pickup.

https://kansas.rivals.com/news/enaruna-signs-with-kansas


See:

Updated OP

:thumb:

[RaidersOftheCellar]

We signed Tristan Enaruna. Could be another Svi-type of player. Young, 6’8” wing, will be here 3-4 years. Nice pickup.

https://kansas.rivals.com/news/enaruna-signs-with-kansas

He’s more of an Oubre type.

Self even compared him to Wiggins but that’s going too far. Doesn’t have that kind of athleticism.

[BWillie]

RJ Hampton's latest instagram

If you don't know who the other kid is, it's Jalen Wilson. Who had committed to Michigan before Beilein left for the Cavs. Big time shooter and best friends w/ RJ Hampton. I mean literally best friends with Hampton.

And just 8 hours ago requested a release from his Michigan shollie commitment.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6t9MXCWkAgto1D.jpg:large

[Mr. Plow]

Nice!

[Prison Bitch]

https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia0.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2FexjT1SpxS88Yo%2Fgiphy.gif%3Fcid%3D4bf119fc5 cdaf27c4e30763673061f31%26rid%3Dgiphy.gif&hash=7cae0887a8456f454c771b60327dd088

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Grimes saying he hasn't decided if he is declaring for the draft yet...

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Precious going to Memphis.

[Prison Bitch]

Precious going to Memphis.

https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5be32bd924000030009993e2.jpeg?ops=scalefit_720_noupscale

[Mr. Plow]

Precious going to Memphis.

Official?

[Mr. Plow]

Official?

To answer my own question.... Yes, it's official. Which takes Memphis out of the running for RJ.

[ROYC75]

Damn, why sell yourself for a Penny?

I mean, when you can gain all the Self confidence you can handle?:hmmm:

[arrowheadnation]

Once Hardaway's AAU guys are gone, Memphis will be back at the bottom of the barrel like normal. Give us Hampton, Wilson, Dotson back and fingers crossed for De Sousa and we start a new streak and make noise in March.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Once Hardaway's AAU guys are gone, Memphis will be back at the bottom of the barrel like normal. Give us Hampton, Wilson, Dotson back and fingers crossed for De Sousa and we start a new streak and make noise in March.

Dotson is back almost 100%.

Things seem promising for De Sousa, Hampton and Wilson. But the way things have gone, I'm not getting up my hopes too high.

That team would be #1 with a bullet though.

[saphojunkie]

Official?

My source is the novel "Push" by Sapphire.

[arrowheadnation]

Just saw on the twitters that Grimes said today that he is keeping his options open, so returning to school is a possibility for him as well.

[Lzen]

Just saw on the twitters that Grimes said today that he is keeping his options open, so returning to school is a possibility for him as well.

I know there are a lot of KU fans that were happy to see him declare but I would welcome his return for a sophomore season.

[Prison Bitch]

Not with Hampton

[InvinciBill]

Silvio's eligible

!

[CasselGotPeedOn]

Hell yes!

[smithandrew051]

Happy to be wrong about that one. I figured we were fucked.

[BWillie]

We are going to be so fucking good if Dotson comes back, if Hampton comes, if Wilson comes.

I know - alot of ifs - but it's 80%+ that all happens.

[sedated]

Wow.

For all the chicken littles (KU haters) who thought last year was the beginning of the end, things sure are looking good for next year.

[Mr. Plow]

Silvio's eligible

!

http://i.imgur.com/u3Bdqrp.gif

[BWillie]

http://i.imgur.com/u3Bdqrp.gif

I'm walkin' on sunshine - whoa!! and don't it feel good.

[Mr. Plow]

http://replygif.net/i/1309.gif

[Mr. Plow]

http://i.imgur.com/SCNLyPY.gif

[BWillie]

Likely starting line up
PG - Dotson
SG - Hampton
SF - Agbaji
PF - Silvio
C - Doke
----------
Garrett
Wilson
McCormack
McBride
Braun
Grimes (lol)
Enaruna

[TambaBerry]

this is bad ass!

[Prison Bitch]

KCC will be crying about not shooting any 3s, while we just dump the ball into the post for easy buckets all year

[BWillie]

Silvio is going to be one of the top 25 players in college basketball.

Think about that for a moment. And we'll have Doke dropping dicks on peoples foreheads dunking over them, too.

[smithandrew051]

Silvio is going to be one of the top 25 players in college basketball.

Think about that for a moment. And we'll have Doke dropping dicks on peoples foreheads dunking over them, too.

Just gotta hope Doke stays healthy.

[lawrenceRaider]

Just gotta hope Doke stays healthy.

So far it's been every other year. Lets hope the pattern continues.

[ROYC75]

Bout damn time.

4321

[smithandrew051]

Keitzman bitching already about De Sousa being eligible. The rest of the conference feels the momentum shifting back to Kansas. They’re all scared that they’re in for another 15 years of hell.

[PHOG]

Good news, good news indeed! :thumb:

[Kramerica]

https://media.giphy.com/media/l3V0l0jmWPkNBvcWc/giphy.gif

[lawrenceRaider]

Keitzman bitching already about De Sousa being eligible. The rest of the conference feels the momentum shifting back to Kansas. They’re all scared that they’re in for another 15 years of hell.

KK's never forgiven KU for not fixing his tiny hands syndrome.

[Prison Bitch]

As I’ve always told mizzouchebags: yep it’s a rigged game, you should stop watching.

[BigRedChief]

Likely starting line up
PG - Dotson
SG - Hampton
SF - Agbaji
PF - Silvio
C - Doke
----------
Garrett
Wilson
McCormack
McBride
Braun
Grimes (lol)
EnarunaDid I miss something? When did Hampton committ?

[KCTitus]

As I’ve always told mizzouchebags: yep it’s a rigged game, you should stop watching.

I thought they went D2 a while back...due to low admissions and lack of interest.

[BWillie]

Did I miss something? When did Hampton committ?

He's going to commit Tuesday. https://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article230817319.html

[BigRedChief]

He's going to commit Tuesday. https://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article230817319.htmlall that article is when he’s going to announce. Not his choice of schools. Kids change their minds all the time. Again, why are you so sure that you have him in the starting lineup.

[BWillie]

all that is when he’s going to announce. Not his choice of schools. Kids change their minds all the time. Again, why are you do sure that you have him in the starting lineup.

98.3% chance. It's science.

[Mr. Kotter]

Silvio's eligible!

AWESOME! :D

98.3% chance. It's science.

I hope you are right, but I'm not holding my breath. I don't think either Grimes or Dotson have much of a chance of getting drafted, so if Hampton signs ....I suspect Grimes will transfer. If Hampton ends up elsewhere, then Grimes could be back--though I doubt it. Regardless, given the log-jam of bigs and abundance of guards...playing time would be tight.

[Prison Bitch]

all that article is when he’s going to announce. Not his choice of schools. Kids change their minds all the time. Again, why are you so sure that you have him in the starting lineup.

He would start for every team in America day 1.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Hampton is in the bag. I’d put money on it.

Shortly after the Silvio news dropped, he tweeted that he was moving up his announcement. The date he set is before the deadline to pull out of the draft, so he’s clearly not waiting to see whether Tucker will play at Memphis (some thought it hinged on this). However, in reality, Memphis was out of it as soon as they signed Boogie Ellis.

Those “in the know” have said for a while that it would be either KU or overseas (Australia). Under Armour has apparently tried to steer him to Australia. But you can bet he’s not going on ESPN to announce that he’s joining the Sydney Kings.

Also, Evan Daniels officially picked KU a few weeks back. He’s al ost never wrong and basically only makes a pick when he has info.

He’ll be joining KU. And they’ll be as loaded as they’ve been since maybe 08. And that’s not even factoring in his best friend Jalen Wilson, who is probably joining him. And to think, things looked pretty bleak just a few weeks ago.

[BigRedChief]

He would start for every team in America day 1.
Of course. No one has said otherwise. My point was he has not picked KU.

[KC_Connection]

KCC will be crying about not shooting any 3s, while we just dump the ball into the post for easy buckets all year
Both shooting threes and shooting them well is incredibly important in this day and age of basketball, but I'll take actually being good after last year. With De Sousa back in the fold somehow, that's virtually a guarantee once Dotson returns.

[Prison Bitch]

Both shooting threes and shooting them well is incredibly important in this day and age of basketball.

When has it not?

[KC_Connection]

When has it not?
It was less important when nobody did it. Now most good teams/programs emphasize it.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Both shooting threes and shooting them well is incredibly important in this day and age of basketball, but I'll take actually being good after last year. With De Sousa back in the fold somehow, that's virtually a guarantee once Dotson returns.

De Sousa was as good of a rebounder as anyone in college two seasons ago. Probably even better now. Azubuike and McCormack will also grab plenty. For that matter, Agbaji is a very good rebounding guard.

It won’t be as important to shoot a high percentage as it will be for other teams.

But personally, I think they’ll have solid shooting power with Dotson, Agbaji, McBride, and likely Hampton and Wilson. McBride is a very underrated recruit. Hard to say how many minutes he’ll get as a freshman, but he might be the best shooter on the team.

[BigRedChief]

De Sousa was as good of a rebounder as anyone in college two seasons ago. Probably even better now. Azubuike and McCormack will also grab plenty. For that matter, Agbaji is a very good rebounding guard.

It won’t be as important to shoot a high percentage as it will be for other teams.

But personally, I think they’ll have solid shooting power with Dotson, Agbaji, McBride, and likely Hampton and Wilson. McBride is a very underrated recruit. Hard to say how many minutes he’ll get as a freshman, but he might be the best shooter on the team.Everyone who follows this team even casually, can see that we have a possible national championship team if we get a top level true shooter, scorer recruit like Hampton. Everyone, not just here, are super excited that Hampton is coming. But, you guys and others seem to think its a done deal. Why does everyone think its a done deal?

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Everyone who follows this team even casually, can see that we have a possible national championship team if we get a top level true shooter, scorer recruit like Hampton. Everyone, not just here, are super excited that Hampton is coming. But, you guys and others seem to think its a done deal. Why does everyone think its a done deal?

I gave my reasons a few posts back. But basically there is a lot of info out there suggesting that it’s between KU and the Australian team. Under Armour is trying to steer him overseas. Memphis was realistically eliminated when they picked up Ellis. Texas Tech was never a serious player.

His announcement will be on ESPN, and he’s not going on ESPN to announce that he’s joining the Sydney Kings.

Plus, Evan Daniels picked KU and he’s basically never wrong. He knows people.

[BigRedChief]

His announcement will be on ESPN, and he’s not going on ESPN to announce that he’s joining the Sydney Kings.If true that's its between us and the Australia team, your theory is sound.:thumb:

[BWillie]

I was not excited for last year's team, even when preseason #1. It was very baffling to me why they were preseason #1 but I really think (with the addition of RJ) this team is going to be the best we've seen in sometime. Potential to be the best team since 2008.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

I was not excited for last year's team, even when preseason #1. It was very baffling to me why they were preseason #1 but I really think (with the addition of RJ) this team is going to be the best we've seen in sometime. Potential to be the best team since 2008.

RJ is going overseas sadly.

[BigRedChief]

RJ is going overseas sadly.
Link?

[arrowheadnation]

Decision coming in less than 30 min...

Unfortunately I've seen a few people on twitter saying that ownership of the Australian team have said they have a "big announcement" to make this morning. Hopefully it's fake news.

[KCFalcon59]

Well that sucks.

[arrowheadnation]

and now it's official. Going overseas. Says he never wanted to go to school.

[KC_Connection]

His announcement will be on ESPN, and he’s not going on ESPN to announce that he’s joining the Sydney Kings.

But he would go on to announce the New Zealand Breakers.

[KC_Connection]

Will be interesting to see what Grimes does now. He's certainly no NBA player. Hard to see much benefit of staying in the draft unless he's dead set on playing in the development league, Europe, or possibly even the league Hampton just joined.

[arrowheadnation]

Perry Ellis played in that league a couple years ago and dominated so...

[lawrenceRaider]

But he would go on to announce the New Zealand Breakers.

Kid with no desire to attend classes decides to get paid actual cash to play and develop in semi-pro ball for a year.

Old rules, before Adidas and Nike got popped for paying players, he probably gets a similar amount of cash under the table to play college ball.

[BWillie]

Quite a sad turn of events. KU was in the bag as of weeks ago. KU was def his college choice. That UA money got him to NBL & we prob have to play it safe on the Adidas $ for a while did us in

[Prison Bitch]

Never understood why more kids don’t do this. Playing for free for millionaire coaches and millionaire AD’s is a laughably stupid and racist system that I’d never want to participate in if I didn’t have to.

Marcus Garrett has to. Josh Jackson, Hampton, Wiggins et al don’t. The latter should absolutely go make 300-400k (plus endorsements ) for a year and stop making others rich under the guise of “amateur purity”

[BWillie]

Never understood why more kids don’t do this. Playing for free for millionaire coaches and millionaire AD’s is a laughably stupid and racist system that I’d never want to participate in if I didn’t have to.

Marcus Garrett has to. Josh Jackson, Hampton, Wiggins et al don’t. The latter should absolutely go make 300-400k (plus endorsements ) for a year and stop making others rich under the guise of “amateur purity”

Yep. And it's always been an option. It's always been a choice. Now we know why they were going to school in the first place, shoe company money.

[OKchiefs]

Never understood why more kids don’t do this. Playing for free for millionaire coaches and millionaire AD’s is a laughably stupid and racist system that I’d never want to participate in if I didn’t have to.

Marcus Garrett has to. Josh Jackson, Hampton, Wiggins et al don’t. The latter should absolutely go make 300-400k (plus endorsements ) for a year and stop making others rich under the guise of “amateur purity”

Racist?

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Racist?

:popcorn:

And . . . . . here . . . . . we . . . . . go . . . . . .







(countdown commence on KU thread getting moved to DC or RR)

[Prison Bitch]

It’s not going to DC. It’s perfectly fair game to discuss the corrupt NCAA system. You cannot discuss recruiting without talking about paying players and there’s one main reason you pay them: they’re desperate for the $$$ and they cannot earn it in college.


We lost a top-5 recruit, IMO, because we can’t pay him. We can only pay Self and Jeff Long.

[BigRedChief]

and now it's official. Going overseas. Says he never wanted to go to school.so why even make a college list? Publicly publish a short list when you had no desire to attend college. I think you only have to maintain a passing grade in 9 hours for a single semester to qualify for the college basketball season. The grades in the winter semester don’t count because the basketball season is over before the semester.

Kid with no desire to attend classes decides to get paid actual cash to play and develop in semi-pro ball for a year.

Old rules, before Adidas and Nike got popped for paying players, he probably gets a similar amount of cash under the table to play college ball.looks like the going rate is $100K for these top level recruits. He’s still going to make 3X that in NZ.

[BigRedChief]

Yep. And it's always been an option. It's always been a choice. Now we know why they were going to school in the first place, shoe company money.this is why I never believe these kids are committed until they sign on the dotted line. They are young, impulsive. They could change their mind overnight. That’s just who they are.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

so why even make a college list?

Leverage in negotiations for that one year contract. Or they may have been waiting for the shoe company offers to ensure there really was no way to subvert the system. Could have been any number of reasons.

[Titty Meat]

Mods please move this thread to DC

[SithCeNtZ]

Never understood why more kids don’t do this. Playing for free for millionaire coaches and millionaire AD’s is a laughably stupid and racist system that I’d never want to participate in if I didn’t have to.

Marcus Garrett has to. Josh Jackson, Hampton, Wiggins et al don’t. The latter should absolutely go make 300-400k (plus endorsements ) for a year and stop making others rich under the guise of “amateur purity”

Because the money they make overseas isn’t worth leaving for one year and losing the publicity. Think about how much more money Zion will make on his shoe deal after he was basically all ESPN talked about for 8 months straight than had he gone and played in some league overseas that no one watches or cares about. I’m not going to play dumb and say “education is valuable go to school”, but I do think people dismiss just how valuable 8 months of nonstop media attention on you is and how much it hypes you up. Hell, even a hot March can sky rocket you up draft boards in only a hand full of games. That’s what publicity does.

The only way this is a smart move is if he pulls a Grimes and we find out he is way overhyped and his stock drops off the map. Then he will be glad he took the money.

[Mr. Plow]

so why even make a college list? Publicly publish a short list when you had no desire to attend college.

Because you are still dealing with 17/18 year old kids.

[Imon Yourside]

Mods please move this thread to DC

No that's for the Nubraska threads.

[saphojunkie]

Mods please move this thread to DC

Mods please ban this talking foreskin from the thread

[Prison Bitch]

Because the money they make overseas isn’t worth leaving for one year and losing the publicity. Think about how much more money Zion will make on his shoe deal after he was basically all ESPN talked about for 8 months straight than had he gone and played in some league overseas that no one watches or cares about. I’m not going to play dumb and say “education is valuable go to school”, but I do think people dismiss just how valuable 8 months of nonstop media attention on you is and how much it hypes you up. Hell, even a hot March can sky rocket you up draft boards in only a hand full of games. That’s what publicity does.

True as well. It can work both ways. If Zion played vs superior completion then scouts evaluate him better. Obv he’s an outlier as he’d go #1 regardless. But let’s say it’s a top-10 guy. I don’t know the level of play in Australia.

The only way this is a smart move is if he pulls a Grimes and we find out he is way overhyped and his stock drops off the ma. Then he will be glad he took the money.

Brandon Jennings was told the same thing but he ended up fine. I’d bet talent level is all that matters, NBA will find you. Like a pretty girl, they’ll let you know if they’re interested

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Extremely hot take for PB:
Purchase lipstick, high-heeled shoes, and the ass jelly for your players to wear during tournaments this year.

The spidey sense 2019 has spoken.

[arrowheadnation]

GRIMES IS RETURNING TO SCHOOL!!!!

Now we wait on Dotson.

[TambaBerry]

dotson decision coming soon

[Mr. Plow]

Dotson returning

[Mr. Plow]

http://i.imgur.com/I7eddW9.gif

[RustShack]

Perry Ellis played in that league a couple years ago and dominated so...

Random, I seen Perry Ellis yesterday.

[DJJasonp]

GRIMES IS RETURNING TO SCHOOL!!!!

Now we wait on Dotson.I read on phog that it wasnt a guarantee that its back to KU....

Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

[Mr. Kotter]

dotson decision coming soon

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[RustShack]

I seen that grad transfer Tucker is staying in the draft. Not really a shocker since he didn’t actually graduate so would have to sit out a year or stay. Committed to Memphis after visiting KU and Iowa State.

[TambaBerry]

Grimes is transferring

[KC Hawks]

Grimes is transferring.

[Mr. Kotter]

Grimes is transferring.

Sounds like he's applying for the transfer portal. Anyone know the guidelines in order to qualify for not sitting out a year??? Can't imagine he'd qualify...but I don't know.

[KC_Connection]

Dumb decision by Grimes/his handlers. They must really think he can shine with the ball in his hands but waiting an entire year and pushing back his earning potential is not worth it.

With Dotson back, KU is an easy top 5 team.

[Kiimo]

Grimes = Conner Frankamp

Dotson = Brandon Rush

I have decided, so it is true

[BigRedChief]

GRIMES IS RETURNING TO SCHOOL!!!!

Now we wait on Dotson.hope he learned how to shoot

[BigRedChief]

With Dotson back, KU is an easy top 5 team.and who’s going to shoot the outside shot?

[BWillie]

Grimes = Conner Frankamp

Dotson = Brandon Rush

I have decided, so it is true

Dotson = A shorter Russell Westbrook

Grimes = The next Rodrick Stewart? No idea.

[Mr. Kotter]

and who’s going to shoot the outside shot?
Agbaji and Dotson should both be better next year; the key, I think, could be getting Jalen Wilson for the 3 position to supplement.....Enumera, IF the visit tomorrow and Friday go well--summer classes start Monday...

[KC_Connection]

and who’s going to shoot the outside shot?
Dotson or Agbaji. I'm sure one of these incoming recruits can shoot too, not that I have any idea who they are right now.

With Udoka and De Sousa, they're going to be playing through their bigs anyway.

[Mr. Kotter]

Wondering out loud whether Texas Tech might be Grime's destination.... :hmmm:

Afterall, they were chasing Hampton too; both local boys...National Championship game this past year.

What a storyline that would be... :spock:

[Prison Bitch]

Our team profile is extremely similar to UNC 2017 who started #6 and just murdered people on the glass, while shooting only 33% from deep. They escaped a couple close calls on the way to the title. Could’ve easily lost 2nd round to Arky. But, rebounding is the only thing you can’t ever do too much of

[Titty Meat]

Dotson = A shorter Russell Westbrook

Grimes = The next Rodrick Stewart? No idea.

LMAO

[Titty Meat]

That's one hell of a front court you guys have. Love McCormick I think he will be a lottery guy. Hopefully we get bounced by you guys in Omaha.

[Buehler445]

WTF is Grimes thinking?

[Buehler445]

Wondering out loud whether Texas Tech might be Grime's destination.... :hmmm:

Afterall, they were chasing Hampton too; both local boys...National Championship game this past year.

What a storyline that would be... :spock:

If he’s wanting to show scouts how dynamic he can be offensively, TT ain’t it. Plus Beard might be one of the 2 or 3 guys who expect more out of their guys defensively than Self.

That would make little sense.

So that’s probably where he’s going.

[lawrenceRaider]

Can't schools block specific teams for transfers?

Glad Grimes is gone. Dude is wet toilet paper mentally.

So damn glad Dotson is back. We'll be murdering teams next year. No team should be able to out rebound us. Dotson is a good enough outside shooter that if Ochai shoots well, we will dominate.

[TambaBerry]

Can't schools block specific teams for transfers?

Glad Grimes is gone. Dude is wet toilet paper mentally.

So damn glad Dotson is back. We'll be murdering teams next year. No team should be able to out rebound us. Dotson is a good enough outside shooter that if Ochai shoots well, we will dominate.

the best part of it is our bigs can actually be aggressive since we have 4 guys who can all play. No more of this staying out of foul trouble shit

[Buehler445]

the best part of it is our bigs can actually be aggressive since we have 4 guys who can all play. No more of this staying out of foul trouble shit

That’s fairly horrifying. Can you imagine trying to defend a Dok that gives no fucks if he fouls out? Only that he eats your soul? LOL

[lawrenceRaider]

That’s fairly horrifying. Can you imagine trying to defend a Dok that gives no fucks if he fouls out? Only that he eats your soul? LOL

Doke was eating souls on the offensive end even when he had to be careful.

He should be terrifying to every team with the misfortune to face him next year.

[smithandrew051]

the best part of it is our bigs can actually be aggressive since we have 4 guys who can all play. No more of this staying out of foul trouble shit

We can always go with 4 guards if we need to for stretches.

Say Doke gets in early foul trouble. Then you can rotate Silvio and McCormack at the 5 with a 4 guard lineup until late.

Having 3 monsters with NBA-ready bodies is what sets us apart this year.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

"You're gonna' die up there".

[BWillie]

That’s fairly horrifying. Can you imagine trying to defend a Dok that gives no ****s if he fouls out? Only that he eats your soul? LOL

https://cdn.drawception.com/images/panels/2013/2-2/D2WEWWXtGA-6.png

[Prison Bitch]

Self is 16-6 vs the blue bloods (Dook UNC kent UCLA) at Kansas.

Prior to him, Kansas was 11-41 vs them.

[saphojunkie]

Man, I could not care less about Grimes leaving. The second I saw him in the scrimmage last summer, I texted my basketball message thread that he was going to be a huge disappointment. Underathletic and didn't have the confidence or shooting stroke to make up for it.

He could be a real player in three years or he could be nothing. Don't care.

[Kiimo]

KU is addition by subtraction when it comes to chucking dumb threes, I’ll say that. Grimes and Charlie Moore are gone. KU may be forced to play some old school bully ball. Bring back the alleyoops

[Titty Meat]

Self is 16-6 vs the blue bloods (Dook UNC kent UCLA) at Kansas.

Prior to him, Kansas was 11-41 vs them.

How many final 4 championships does he have to Roy?

[Prison Bitch]

How many final 4 championships does he have to Roy?

6 vs 2 for Roy

[lawrenceRaider]

How many final 4 championships does he have to Roy?

Self's record against Roy in the tourney? 3-0 and all were pretty good butt kickings.

[Buehler445]

Self is 16-6 vs the blue bloods (Dook UNC kent UCLA) at Kansas.

Prior to him, Kansas was 11-41 vs them.

Woah.

That's fucking incredible. I'm one of the biggest Self Fanbois around, and I wouldn't have guessed the numbers were that.

[Buehler445]

6 vs 2 for Roy

Those numbers I knew. Roy put together a couple all timers, but he also threw out a bunch of meh that beat up on the big 8/12 because everyone was worried about football.

[Buehler445]

Self's record against Roy in the tourney? 3-0 and all were pretty good butt kickings.

That 08 team would have won by 40 if the refs didn't decide that to call charges for Handsjob on something retarded like 6 of 8 defensive possessions or something retarded. That team was straight raping UNC.

[smithandrew051]

Self is 16-6 vs the blue bloods (Dook UNC kent UCLA) at Kansas.

Prior to him, Kansas was 11-41 vs them.

3 of those 6 losses were versus the Anthony Davis UK team (2) and the Karl Anthony Towns UK team (1). With the differences in talent between UK and KU those years, there’s no shame in those losses.

We actually played UK pretty close twice in 2012, but UK just had a little too much firepower.

[Prison Bitch]

6-1 vs Dook and Carolina. Beat each in a Reguonal Final. Wow.


By the way you can mark it 7-1 because we will beat Dook by 12 to open next season.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Just need to find a shooter (hopefully Walker) and they’ll be ready to kick ass and take names.

[KC_Connection]

It's not KenPom but KU is #2 in these statistical projections: http://barttorvik.com/trankpre.php

[BigRedChief]

Just need to find a shooter (hopefully Walker) and they’ll be ready to kick ass and take names.Bill has loved his big guy inside outside game for decades. Now, he wont have to worry about Doke fouling out and give up the game plan. I trust Self to figure out how to best utilize his talent he has available.

That said.....Lack of outside shooting is my concern too.That game plan only works if you have threats on the outside. Self needs another shooter for us to win a championship next year.

[Prison Bitch]

My source said Vick was booted after he refused to run laps st practice and called Self a bitch.

[KC_Connection]

My source said Vick was booted after he refused to run laps st practice and called Self a bitch.
It is still unclear why this guy ever thought he was good. He can't even dribble a basketball.

[smithandrew051]

Bill has loved his big guy inside outside game for decades. Now, he wont have to worry about Doke fouling out and give up the game plan. I trust Self to figure out how to best utilize his talent he has available.

That said.....Lack of outside shooting is my concern too.That game plan only works if you have threats on the outside. Self needs another shooter for us to win a championship next year.

The defense needs to be elite next year.

Having 4 bigs in Doke, McCormack, DeSousa, and Lightfoot that can all block shots is huge. The big 3 there have NBA ready bodies and should defend the paint at a high level.

We also have 3 good athletes on the perimeter in Dotson, Garrett, and Agbaji. They should be able to play more aggressively with those big bodies as insurance inside.

There is no excuse for this to not be a top 5 or so defensive team in the country.

[Lzen]

Wondering out loud whether Texas Tech might be Grime's destination.... :hmmm:

Afterall, they were chasing Hampton too; both local boys...National Championship game this past year.

What a storyline that would be... :spock:

This doesn't make any sense. He would have to sit out a year if he transfers within the conference.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

My source said Vick was booted after he refused to run laps st practice and called Self a bitch.

LMAO Aye, now that's good beak laddy!

[Prison Bitch]

My source also said it’s pronounced Christian “brown” not brawn


Also that Self told the team after the OU big Monday debacle last year they were the worst KU team he’s ever coached.

[BWillie]

My source also said it’s pronounced Christian “brown” not brawn


Also that Self told the team after the OU big Monday debacle last year they were the worst KU team he’s ever coached.

Self probably needs to mold into more of a players coach, kids are soft these days. That will make them cry and tell mommy.

[Prison Bitch]

He also told them in the huddle with 10 to play in their tourney loss “Guys we are playing for pride now”. I guess the players were bothered Auburn kept invading our safe space.

[arrowheadnation]

Damn...we really could have used that Anthony Mathis guy that transferring from New Mexico St., but it sounds like he has his heart set on Oregon for some reason. Could have been the outside shooter we still lack.