Jovan Belcher, a gem found in the rough ?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And you've completely avoided any attempt to address the fact that he was punked over and over and over by guards, running backs and fullbacks, that he's too light, that his lateral movement sucks and he's slow (4.85 at 228 pounds isn't exactly fast).

You asked who was a ILB that shed blocks consistently and I named ONLY two: Timmons and Scott. How many ****ing Jets and Ravens games have YOU watched the past two years? One? Two? And then you avoid addressing the Timmons comparison because you say his role is "different". Bullshit.

Nice.

The NT position needs to be addressed. Period. The TED backer position needs to be addressed. Period. There's no depth behind Belcher and if an upgrade or competition for the TED position can be found, the Chiefs would be remiss if they passed.

Timmons role isn't different? He doesn't have an elite NT in front of him? And what exactly does he have to do with the Ravens?

I don't know how many of the Jets and Steelers games I've watched over the last 2 seasons, but I know they're on TV all the damn time, I know my neighbor has Sunday ticket and I watch a shitload of football. So unless you've become some guru of East Coast football out in Cali, I'm not inclined to believe you've watched infinitely more Jets or Steelers games than I have.

And Belcher was at 242 when he ran his 4.85 at the combine (i.e. almost exactly what Scott's doing). I don't know what he runs it in now, but I don't imagine he's lost any steps at 23 years old. And no, he wasn't getting consistently 'punked' by FBs and RBs. He was, however, consistently getting blasted by guards and over the course of the game that certainly took a toll on him. So yeah, he wasn't as effective as an ILB that didn't have to take on 300 lb men as often would've been.

You say I'm ignoring your point, but you continue to disregard the fact that Belcher was constantly under attack by blockers due to completely ineffectual play by his NT. This damages his reputation (the more often he has to shed tacklers, the more often he won't manage it by the virtue of sheer mathmatics), but it also damages his ability to effectively shed those same blockers by wearing his ass out.