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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

44% success rate on downfield passes. Worse than MVS.

Average depth of target - 8.0 yards; a full 7 yards per target shorter than MVS.

Guys, you're asking unreasonable things here and providing non-applicable examples. Yes, there are times a WR can jump up and catch a pass. But what you're talking about is a downfield receiver in full gallop stopping his momentum, going straight up, turning his body and bringing the ball in.

It doesn't happen NEARLY as frequently as y'all seem to think it does. And it certainly isn't guys running routes way downfield that tend to do it.

The point I've been making, is that Stone Hands at least tried. And came down with some balls in the process. I don't care about his completion rate in this argument, because he's a WR5. He's not supposed to come down with more balls than MVS, so who cares what his actual completion rate is? Plus, he's had four different QBs throwing to him this year, so who knows if he'd have caught more balls with just some continuity.

But MVS has had the same guy throwing balls to him, so he doesn't get that excuse.

And while we're at it, you know who came down with a lot of those type passes for Mahomes in the past? D. Robinson. Did he have a great catch rate on deep balls? i don't know, and I really don't care what the actual percentage was. What matters in this discussion, is that D.Rob made an effort to go get passes in the vertical, and came down with some of them.

No one is asking MVS to be DHop/Diggs/J. Jefferson, etc. We all know he ain't that dude.

But he's 6'3" or whatever. and he's technically KC's WR2, so he's supposed to basically be the Chiefs equivalent of Mike Williams for LAC. Mike goes up in the air for footballs.

Just use your height/length when able, man, that's all. If not, then what makes him any different from Hardman at 5'11" or whatever? Not much, as far as I can tell.