So are you willing to give Herm and Carl a "Do over" ?

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Originally Posted by Mecca

There's going to be alot of weird defenses when Ryan is brought up because when we discussed him even acknowledge he'd likely go before us there still a good majority that didn't want him even if he fell so they look kinda stupid right now.

No, Jeff. They don't look stupid.

You keep glossing over a simple set of facts.

Matt Ryan has looked decent because:

He has a solid OL, strong running game, WR that can get open, and a coaching staff that hasn't handcuffed him.

He would have had NONE of those things in KC, and it would have been reeruned to spend that pick/money on a guy your setting up to fail from Day One.

Your argument about ruining other draft picks is reeruned - bad coaching isn't going to ruin a DT. Or even a CB. Those guys can get by on instincts alone if need be.

It is absolutely neccessary for a rookie QB to have solid coaching from the day they enter the league. Show me the last rookie QB to perform well in spite of shitty coaching...